Is Frank Zappa considered based?

-FZ: The '60s was really stupid.

Interviewer: Okay, can you expand on that a little bit more, why you think the 60s were really stupid?

FZ: Well it was a type of merchandising. Americans have this hideous weakness, they have this desire to be these OK fun guys and gals, and they haven't come to terms with the reality of the situation. We are NOT created equal. Some people can do carpentry, some can do Mathematics, some are brain surgeons and some people are winos and that's the way it is. And we're not all the same. And this concept of one world and everything blended and smoothed out to this mediocre norm that everyone downgrades themselves to be is stupid. And the 60's was merchandised to the public at large. My pet theory about the 60s is, there's a sinister plot behind it... [..] it's just the lessons learned in the 60s about merchandising stupidity on a large scale to the American public has been used over and over again since that time.


"Let's not be too rough on our own ignorance; it's what makes America great! "

-Frank Zappa

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>FZ: The '60s was really stupid.
>The '60s was
>was

He's a fucking idiot, for one thing.

>He is
>IS

Okay kid.
Zappa was based. Full-stop.

the only people who nitpick about grammar or little mishaps like that are faggot English majors on Reddit. Go fuck yourself

Literal genius who saw through the bullshit.

>"My pet theory about the 60s is, there's a sinister plot behind it..."
yeah it's called Marxism and we're still today dealing with the bs that started then

Is anyone really going to argue that Zappa wasn't a genius? I have never heard anyone even try to refute that point before. Even lefties who worship the 60s as some sort of Garden of Eden analogue.

>little mishaps

Not knowing how to speak is a bit more than a 'little mishap,' you cuck.

He's just a huge self-indulgent degenerate who spawned a whole clan of leftards with retarded names. Even a broken clock can be right twice a day.

His music can be interesting but if it was erased from history, no great loss.

Did Frank capitalize "mathematics" in his speech? Like, did he say "capital-M Mathematics"?

Cuck is not the appropriate term here you dumb fuck, since you are the cuck here, ignoring the main point to nitpick like a fucking limp wristed faggot.

You have to go back.

Actually, he was. He was pretty libertarian too

>His music can be interesting but if it was erased from history, no great loss.

Oversimplification of the century. Zappa was hugely influential from a musical perspective. You wipe out Zappa, you must then wipe out every artist influenced by Zappa. This removes a huge amount of material from the collective musical catalogue.

Try to at least consider the implications of what you are saying before you say it.

Frank Zappa is a musician. If you listen to what he says about anything besides music, you are experiencing the phenomenon known as cognitive apotheosis. Cognitive apotheosis is a form of hero worship, in which people place unwarranted importance on the opinions of people because they are famous, whether or not the opinion relates to why the person is famous.

Welcome to the 2010's - the Cognitive Apotheosis Decade!

No. I typed this out quickly from the MOFO project. Thought it was as relevant as ever to today

Bob Dylan is best 60's goy

Except he's the only one to talk shit about the 60s and give excellent points why it sucked. It is obviously very notable. Stop nitpicking like a faggot

>he talks like the people on tv

autists usually dont develop their own way of speaking

IMHO he is pretty good. Look up his testimony to congress. A little bit of a wackjob though in the same vein as Steve Jobs.

I have literally only heard of Zappa for his quotes and think they're great

>Every socialistic type of government… produces bad art, produces social inertia, produces really unhappy people, and it's more repressive than any other kind of government.

> I like to watch the news, because I don't like people very much and when you watch the news... if you ever had an idea that people were really terrible, you could watch the news and know that you're right.

>The more boring a child is, the more the parents, when showing off the child, receive adulation for being good parents — because they have a tame child-creature in their house.

That last one is painfully true for me

The 60s was (a decade that was) really stupid.

Lay off the bath salts, friendo

>tfw it hurts when i pee

Frank Zappa was doin songs about buttsex way before it was cool.
youtube.com/watch?v=LmXMy4p5Mto

>Oversimplification of the century. Zappa was hugely influential from a musical perspective
>You wipe out Zappa, you must then wipe out every artist influenced by Zappa.
I like some rock and roll influenced music but wiping out the entire movement would've been the best choice for our society.

Go the fuck back

A cultural icon speaking about cultural issues is completely appropriate. Should people be looking to some fucking (((author))) or (((journalist))) to sum up the fucking cultural zeitgeist of the 60's? You're a pedantic fucking idiot. Go back.

Then went on to ask why it hurts when he pees.

youtube.com/watch?v=fiu6DFXeF9A

Frank was an incredible musician and composer.
Largely influential in the prog rock/fusion genre's.
He is also the most prolific artist of all time, which means that although he may have been "self indulgent" as user above says, he certainly worked extremely hard.
Did not drown himself in drugs and alcohol like other musicians of his time.
Challenged the government in a non-hippy manner.
I will agree his kids names are retarded though.
All in all BASED

have you ever met someone so smug about being so wrong?

the term "was" is grammatically correct in this situation. "60s" as a term refers to the decade and the related socio-political culture of that time era. It is not referring to a number of years. Rather, it is referring to the collection of years and specifically its societal change.

ergo you're the fucking idiot and frank zappa, PhD, was right.

OP fucked up. That's not how he worded it. Look it up. I'm not doing it for you. You don't deserve it.

>Bob Dylan
>goy

kek, you baitin', ma nigga? His name is Robert fucking Zimmerman

>he got it from the toilet seat

Zappa was definitely redpilled, his father designed chemical weapons at the edgewood arsenal

zappa hated hippies and was pretty right wing but I don't know if we can look up to someone so closely associated with Ollie North

What did Bob Dylan say that was based?

so based he was parodying the 60's DURING THE 60's

youtube.com/watch?v=6-9FX7bhESs

>pair of maracas

Literally nothing. And he played at an Obama event in like 2012. Also he's a fucking Jew. Fuck (((Zimmerman)))

Your post is an attack on the person rather than an argument, which in itself is a logical fallacy. Accepting what he said without any scrutiny would be cognitive apotheosis, there's nothing wrong with listening to what he said and judging his argument by its own merits.

Basically, you completely missed the point.

I saw him at the NEC Birmingham in 1988 and the official tour t-shirts were £30, programs for £15.

He was based and rich

Daily reminder

Beefheart>>>Zappa

Albert Hammond Jr. is based though

Only fags believe this.

wasn't beefheart a cuck?

Always loved Zappa. Not a lot of people care for his music compared to other artists of the era because it was actually great compositions. I do like Hendrix and The Dead and all that hippy dippy shit but I'm not retarded. I love how all these Nu-Hippies think conservative people cant listen to that kidn fo music. Ann Coulter is a big Dead Head and I have seen her at a RatDog show once. Frank was an arse but that's why he was lovely. No one put more time into their craft than Frank. Not to mention the huge number of great musicians he mentored in the Mothers that went on to become quite successful by themselves. You Cant Do That On Stage Anymore!

He willingly became a goy for us. He's the second coming of Christ, user. And he trolled his faggy hippie fans in the 60's by going electric and supporting Barry Goldwater.

Fuck yes he was.

Retard. He opposed degenerate hippy culture. He made an entire album that parodied the Beatles. To give you an idea listen to the song 'Flakes'. The guy was allegedly never even a fan of weed. He was just a whacky mother fucker with an odd sense of humor and loads of talent but back then the right wing painted him like an insane druggie hippy icon much like the left today paints people who don't suck black cock as racists. 'Trouble every day' is a great example of race relations and the conflicts of the civil rights era. Learn your history before you make another shitty comment you stupid fucking faggot

He was a deep thinker

Something this world needs a lot more of so we can all get along

He was a smug faggot and got cancer because he himself was cancerous.

Couple of good albums however, I enjoy joes garage.

same was with Jim Morrison whose dad started Vietnam war

I bet Morrison was just as right.wing

Him and Beefheart were beyond based
"Case of the punks, right from the start"

You obviously never listened to Zappa. He didn't just make music and then spout off all his beliefs which is what your post implies. He inserted his beliefs into his music with top tier satire. Hell, the first song I ever heard was 'I'm The Slime' and I was instantly drawn in by the lyricism. Go listen for yourself, faggot.
Based pole telling it like it is

>lived alpha lifestyle with beautiful women throwing themselves at him even before he was famous
>changes his name to distance himself from being an ethnic jew
>relentlessly trolls hippies
>become serious about bible studies and then converted to Christianity
>his recordings are real takes of him and his band playing, no post-production effects or even overdubbed vocals
>criticized Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts for being too overproduced and commercial. Decides to release John Wesley Harding with 0 marketing as a response
>Intentionally plays terrible live performances when invited to Presidential events, the Grammys, etc
>Made fun of and cucked hippies (seriously the dude cucked 100's of hippies and they were so pathetic they actually came to be ok with it.)
>literally gives no fucks
>is a better songwriter than Zappa

>zappa in the light, with a grave facial expression
>beefheart in the dark, with a joyous facial expression

what did they mean by this

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Beefheart named the jew

> (seriously the dude cucked 100's of hippies and they were so pathetic they actually came to be ok with it.)
Seriously?

how could zappa not be based?
>praise kek, it's what zappa did

Yes. The book is full of hippie cucks telling stories of how Bob stole their women for a night and they were perfectly fine with it. Kek.

Best album EVAR BongoFury
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zappa is the realest nigga I know

So it should be niggerized into "the 60's be stupid bruhh"

>tfw I find this thread while listening to apostrophe

I love FZ work, I've been trying to get all his albums but it looks like an impossible task so far, so much work and so little recognizement.

I also recommend his "autobiography" The real Frank Zappa book.