Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism, and other forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. Also for sharing fascist literature and information.
A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested
Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"
Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction
Oswald Mosely Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera Benito Mussolini Adolf Hitler Stepan Bandera Corneliu Zelea Codreanu Salazar Ramiro Ledesma Ramos Ettore Ovazza Gaetano Mosca Friedrich Nietzsche Charles Maurras Enrico Corradini Filippo Tommaso Marinetti Johann Plenge Alceste De Ambris Gabriele d'Annunzio Juan Perón Giovanni Gentile
Types of Fascism
Italian Falangism National-Syndicalism British Union National-Socialism Strasserism Meme futurism Clerical Fascism Brazilian Integralism Peronism
"[Fascism] was an explosion against intolerable conditions, against remediable wrongs which the old world failed to remedy. It was a movement to secure national renaissance by people who felt themselves threatened with decline into decadence and death and were determined to live, and live greatly."~Oswald Mosely
>philosophic conception Fascism is thought and action. It is action with an inherent doctrine which, arising out of a given system of historic forces, is inserted in it and works on it from within. It has therefore a form co-related to the contingencies of time and place; but it has at the same time an ideal content which elevates it into a formula of truth in the higher region of the history of thought.
Luis Hall
>spiritual conception To Fascism the world is not this material world which appears on the surface, in which man is an individual separated from all other men, standing by himself and subject to a natural law which instinctively impels him to lead a life of momentary and egoistic pleasure. In Fascism man is an individual who is the nation and the country. He is this by a moral law which embraces and binds together individuals and generations in an established tradition and mission, a moral law which suppresses the instinct to lead a life confined to a brief cycle of pleasure in order, instead, to replace it within the orbit of duty in a superior conception of life, free from the limits of time and space a life in which the individual by self-abnegation and by the sacrifice of his particular interests, even by death, realises the entirely spiritual existence in which his value as a man consists.
Michael Sanchez
>ethical conception This positive conception of life is evidently an ethical conception. And it comprises the whole reality as well as the human activity which domineers it. No action is to be removed from the moral sense; nothing is to be in the world that is divested of the importance which belongs to it in respect of moral aims. Life, therefore, as the Fascist conceives it, is serious, austere, religious; entirely balanced in a world sustained by the moral and responsible forces of the spirit. The Fascist disdains the "easy" life.
Nicholas King
>h-hey guys I'm cool now right?
Oliver Barnes
>religious conception Fascism is a religious conception in which man is considered to be in the powerful grip of a superior law, with an objective will which transcends the particular individual and elevates him into a fully conscious member of a spiritual society. Anyone who has stopped short at the mere consideration of opportunism in the religious policy of the Fascist Regime, has failed to understand that Fascism, besides being a system of government, is also a system of thought.
Michael James
What?
Brandon Evans
Any others wish questions or curiosities, feel free to ask them.
Nicholas Young
How did the Chamber of Fasci and Corporations worked? Very little information is available in the surface web.
If I recall correctly there was an entire book written on corporatism during Fascist italys era but I can't recall the name, I haven't read much into the chamber of fasci much either.
Jordan Jackson
A shame at what rockwells organization has now become.
Daniel Edwards
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Levi Ross
How does a fascist regime aim to incentivate entrepreneurship and creativity or mere creation of new technology or arts? Fascist regimes can achieve economic acceleration and efficiency of manpower. However the danger of an technological stagnation is high. Why? "Creators wont feel free to create freely" because at the end, the state (and not the market) will decide if this innovation is useful without having the certainty of it. ->creation stagnation
Grayson Murphy
Friendly bump
Hudson Ramirez
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Mason Miller
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Nolan Harris
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Jason Thomas
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Colton Nelson
What does it mean to be a fascist?
Why should I be a fascist?
I would much appreciate some answers
Carson Nguyen
I know this one is a bit late
Carter Rodriguez
Look up the futurism art movement during fascist Italy, new technology or arts is not discouraged. Fascism works to achieve a perfect balance of traditionalism and modernism.
Grayson Bell
It means you care about the planet and the advancement of the human race into the farthest stretches of the universe, gaining the knowledge required to control and manipulate the very fundamental forces of time and space
James Lopez
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Aiden Robinson
Thank you it sounds awesome
Leo Bennett
For one thing, to support traditional values and protect your race. To reject materialism and the easy life, in exchange for self-improvement and hard work. Living honorably. Becoming noble. Loving your heritage. Bring back the glory of old. There of course is a more political side to it, concerning specific methods, but this is what Fascism is really about. The politics are only a means to an end, a necessary evil. Fascists disdain philosophy and politics to an extent.
Carson Cox
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Leo Butler
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Jordan Johnson
THat pic related is some good shit. I want more of it.
Ian Lopez
Thank you for your response I'll look into this more
Jayden Butler
To be a fascist means you value your country and people above anything else, you have the upmost of nationalistic love and pride. You are determined to constantly improve yourself and your fellow countrymen. Physically, mentally, spiritually, in all aspects you strive in.
Why would you want to be one? Its a choice that you must make within yourself, it is something you must feel within your heart. In this modern world you will feel discouraged and berated for being one, but you keep in mind that this current system of degeneracy will soon meet its collapse. And you, us, will come out on top, correct.
Matthew Powell
Ironmarch makes great OC
Ryder Ortiz
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Liam Peterson
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Hudson Miller
Is fascism really just the iron pill?
Michael Peterson
So to be a fascist is to be a person of high honor and self-worth, to improve yourself at every chance, to take the hard route, and to love your heritage country and countrymen.
Its is also a need to improve humanity's current state, and to refuse and exterminate degeneracy at all times.
That is fascism yes? If so I'm a proud fascist
Also thank you for the responses
Nathan Baker
bash de fash
Hudson Evans
That is part of it. In terms of pills, I would say the Golden One's Glorious Pill is more accurate. Its about improving yourself physically and mentally. Lifting and eating healthy helps, but you must also read, practice good hygiene, dress well, be confident, practicing your traditions, go to church and study your religion if you are religious, improve all areas of your life, and act like some who is superior acts; not arrogant, but doing hings to make yourself superior. However, discipline come with time, and you should start wherever you see fit. If that is the iron pill, then that is a great place to start. Always strive for perfection.
Tyler Walker
"When our flag flies over the city, our enemy's defeat and humiliation will be beyond question." -Comrade Reznov
Hunter Perry
That is a good way of putting it. Hail victory, brother!
Lincoln Perry
Yes, exactly on all of those. The fascist disdains the "easy life" and works as hard as he can, going above and beyond what was needed to do. You seem very interested friend, I recommend starting off with reading the doctrines of fascism.
Eli Fisher
The grownups are talking Nice ironically fashy digits. Is that a quote from a Call of Duty game?
Joshua Morgan
Fuck off and die fascist scum!
Josiah Gomez
It certainly has many elements of the glorious pill, I would say its a blend of redpill and glorious pill. "ultimate pill"
Jonathan Morris
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Jace Hughes
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Charles Barnes
>>>/leftypol/
Zachary Scott
>using a slingshot against a military-oriented ideology
Caleb Campbell
Question; Since you have the similarity of dedication to an objectively failed (justly or unjustly) 20th century alternative political system, what do you think distinguishes modern-day fascists from modern-day communists or 'revolutionary socialists' who consider communism viable despite it's obvious failures in the previous century?
To my mind both were proved untenable to stable government but both groups use the 'we were robbed of our chance by outsiders' and 'the leadership of the past was corrupt and left the true path' to justify continued attempts at implementing their chosen system of government.
What are modern fascists doing different to avoid the mistakes that brought your predecessors low. How has fascism changed? Or do you consider it largely functional as it was originally in which case why did it fail to compete with democratic capitalism internationally?
Owen Ward
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Nathaniel James
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Robert Price
Big fan of the Golden One, but this is really my first foray into actual fascism. From what I'm hearing, holy crap I'm a fascist.
Christopher Lopez
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Cooper Wood
Feast on Fascist Flesh
Lincoln Young
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Owen Parker
Hail! Yes I'm very interested, I'm tired of seeing degeneracy almost where ever I go and not having any idea what to do about it or who to talk to about it, I know if I went to a therapist I'd be fed blue-pills almost immediately.
Also where can I find/read "The Doctrines Of Fascism"?
Isaiah Lopez
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Owen Morgan
Thanks for the free bumps foll, we will just ignore you now.
Cooper Long
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David Phillips
>make racists afraid again >all hiding their faces ironing
Lucas Phillips
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Gabriel Thompson
Begone Filth, you are not wanted here nore needed so leave. Or discuss instead of posting reactionary images :/
Xavier Bailey
Can a nation have no racial element? If so, what does fascism say about them?
Jacob Martinez
Well, for starters, fascism didn't fail because fascism didn't work, as compared to communism. Spain is a great example, the economy and people were well and good until Francos death in 74, then the socialists took power and now spain has a 27% unemployment rate. Fascism can vary friend, being a classic Italian fascist in america would make no sense, as the situation is not the same as Italy was in. Fascism is meant to be crafted and tweaked To fit every countrys current situation and needs
Hudson Brooks
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Nathan Perez
*fool
Jonathan Bennett
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Christian Long
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Juan King
Well, when Hitler took power, Germany had been reduced from perhaps the strongest military power in Europe to a nation deep in economic depressions rife with degeneracy and corruption. Wihin a few short years, it was back to being an economic and military powerhouse. Technically that is National Socialism and not Fascism, which are similar but different, but the point still stands. It was a massive success. Compare that to Soviet Russia. Their economy failed and gradually got worse due to Communism, the exact opposite. To this day, every Communist nation has been full of shortages and starvation. It was eventually economic collapse that defeated the Soviet Union, rather than fighting a war on several fronts like Germany. Had America not joined WWII, the Soviets may have had to battle the Japanese and may have lost, but with two of the largest countries in the world against them, it is easy to see why the Fascist coutries failed. To be fair, they probably also tried expanding too rapidly. Germany probably should have stopped at Poland rather than invading Russia and just played it defensively until they could wear down the British, then maybe in a future war attacking Russia.
Chase Jackson
>Is that a quote from a Call of Duty game? Yeah, when it wasn't bullshit
I'll also grab a library link containing lots of PDFs rn
Zachary Sanders
Strength in unity is a Fascist concept. That's what the Fasces itself means. Its several sticks bound together to be stronger.
Nicholas Richardson
Thank you very much! I'll spend most of my night reading these
Samuel Green
I believe Mussolini believed in a more spiritual conception of race, that anyone of Italian culture was Italian. However, any Fascist nation is free to define its race or nationality as it sees fit.
Jason Edwards
The ethnic race of a country must be the overall majority at any given moment. Fascism is not inherently racist but it certainly can be implemented into it, the people make the state and upholding the nation's culture and heritage would be a key priority. Now, for a country like mine? A huge boiling pot? I have still not decided what would be the best course Of action for this.
Landon Robinson
Hopefully he gets bored and fucks off, but hey, free bumps for now.
Jaxon Moore
Its Sup Forums. Most people on here are right-winged.
Grayson Carter
>modern fascists
The main failure, or any least one of them, was the hyper-expansionist policies which fascists of decades implemented. At no time were they fascists happy that they already had what they needed. Instead of just dealing with their own, they enacted suicidal colonialist expeditions to seize the land of other countries.
This had the effect of bringing all of their enemies together to fight them off.
Fascism with hyper-expansionist policies will ultimately commit suicide. However, the political theory has never really been tested in the absence of these policies.
Julius Evola discusses a LOT of this in his books.
Adam Campbell
This. The best policy imo would be to face your enemies one at a time. War, peace, repeat. Rome wasn't built in a day, imperialism can wait.
Leo Nelson
'Strength in unity is a Fascist concept. That's what the Fasces itself means. Its several sticks bound together to be stronger"
>facists are a bundle of sticks >facists are literally faggots
ghostbin.com/paste/v92p6 This bin contains over 520gb of data, I recommend going into the pol general books, SS, and collections (misc) first. After you're done with the doctrines I recommend reading for my legionaries by corneliu codreanu (get ready for that redpill) and then exploring the literature of Julius Evola.
Christopher Richardson
wow got us there
Jonathan Parker
Sheep following a cause because its trendy lol
Jose Cruz
Damnit, I knew that was coming. I specifically tried to avoid saying a bundle of sticks. Yes, in the sense that "faggot" means "a bundle of sticks," the Fasces is technically a faggot. However, it also has a cool axehead usually. Sometimes an arrowhead. And words can have multiple definitions. You don't drink out of the same cup your mother puts on her tits to hod them in place, which is also different from a trophy you win, which is also different from the thing that protects your genitals in sports. That's why you have to specify what kind of cup it is. So a Fasces is not the same kind of faggot that you are.
Brayden Richardson
>You don't drink out of the same cup your mother puts on her tits to hod them in place,
I might now.... thanks for the idea
Anthony Diaz
Yeah I know. In a way I think (((gays))) did that on purpose. They poisoned the word.
Tyler Davis
balkanization We are too big and diverse to function as one.
Matthew Rivera
By the way I'm not even fash. Socialists are just delusional of history.
Owen Hall
>So a Fasces is not the same kind of faggot your are
kek wasn't expecting that
Hudson Roberts
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Easton Parker
Topkek
Lincoln Kelly
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Cooper Rodriguez
As a Jew can I support fascist causes in the US, or would I basically just be helping myself and other Jews into the ovens?
Eli Garcia
Ah so we are of a same mind. That is what I had in mind as well, and each province having a sort of "sub dictactor" or representative reporting to the head dictactor of the country. This way I see it much easier to span power and control from one person.
Austin Davis
Greetings. Thanks for continuing to make these threads, Blue.
On a side note, it is quite difficult to find an ordinary black fasces flag online.
