Want to move to Japan? Here's how you do it, step by step guide.
1.) Start learning japanese. Doing so is not actually hard a.) Download Anki: ankiweb.net/ b.) Download the 6,000 core deck for japanese: djtguide.neocities.org/anki.html and follow the instructions to install it c.) Set up your anki deck for 20 words a day, and up to 9999 reviews a day (you won't actually see 9999 reviews a day). this way you can learn all 6,000 words in under a year. d.) Join any of the countless japanese language learning generals on Sup Forums pick which best suits your needs
3.) Finish tae kim's grammar guide and all 6,000 words by September.
4.) It's time to choose which JLPT you're taking. If you took japanese seriously and started TODAY from THIS VERY POST, you could be N3 ready by October. Check the registration deadlines.
5.) Take the JLPT you useless sack of shit. N5 if you didn't study at all i mean what the fuck, N4 if you're a slowpoke, N3 means you actually studied. Good, N3 means you're on your way to Japan
6.) Pass the JLPT. If you took the N3, you will be able to get yourself N1 ready by next year by studying at the same pace you are now. Since your 6,000 core deck is settled, grab a 10k core deck. You will start practicing actually writing the kanji from here on out, so grab something like 'Remembering the Kanji' since you'll probably need it by now. If you didn't take the N3, you should aim for the N2 next year. That's right, you're skipping the N3 you didn't take. Up your study, bitch.
7.) With a bachelor's degree and N1, you can now move to Japan. Congrats. Post-graduate study is best method to do so
>All you have to do is renounce your citizenship, only be a citizen of Japan, never have a felony on your record, and essentially have a pristine perfect record of employment and you're good to go!
Yeah, no thanks. I briefly studied Japanese when I was 18 and it was pointless. Why would I even want to move to Japan?
Mason Reed
Do whites have to follow the same intense work schedule japs do?
Jacob Garcia
yes unless you're working for a foreign company stationed in japan, but if you're doing that what's the fucking point
Joseph Bailey
>bachelor's degree >Literal prerequisite in the last step why is JLPT even relevant? Why are there 6 unnecessary steps?
Ethan Watson
Without the JLPT there is no moving to Japan.
Without the JLPT you will not receieve an embassy reccomendation
Without the JLPT you will not be hired for a job in japan
Without the JLPT you probably wouldn't even get approved for the visa without the above. Except to this is the student visa, so if you apply for a student visa you could move to japan without taking the JLPT possibly, but you'd have to be JLPT ready by the time you finish school or you're fucked
kanjidamage is the only redpilled kanji mneumonic guide
Hunter Kelly
WHITE PIGU GO HOME
no,seriously
Jacob Walker
So again: why would anyone want to go through such stringent requirements to live in Japan? You conveniently left out that Japan doesn't allow dual citizenship and that making this step is essentially eternally devoting your life to living in Japan and fully acclimating to their culture. There is no halfway thing. It's not a fun little hobby. It is literally a life long decision and a life long investment.
Most weeb fags on here just want to watch anime, jerk off to 2D children, and imagine their ideal Japan in their head or maybe visit it. People who shitpost all day on the internet are not interested in working hard as shit to move there.
Leo Allen
dame kore
Joshua Russell
I don't give a fuck about japan
Ryan James
Do you have to naturalize for a permanent residency?
Elijah Flores
>essentially eternally devoting your life to living in Japan and fully acclimating to their culture
and you'll never, ever be truly japanese. You'll forever be seen as the 'nice gaijin who can speak japanese'.
They dont even really consider 2nd generation koreans/chinks as 'japanese' (other east asians born and raised in japan)
even pure blooded japs who were born and raised overseas face discrimination when they go back
Cameron Kelly
Why would anyone want to move to Japan?
Jason Ortiz
Yup. Moving to Japan is an irreversable decision that locks you in for life. It's not something you can turn back on like moving to other countries.
The reasons for wanting to move to Japan depend on the person. For me, it's because I like their social system and their emphasis on actually -listening- to other people. It's a country built on mutual understanding and that's something awesome.
Samuel Parker
Nope. You can be a permenant resident of Japan without ever having to give up citizenship.
But at any point under permenant residency the japanese governement could say "we are terminating relations with [YOUR COUNTRY]" and kick you out.
so the permenant residency option leaves you vulnerable to political fuckery so you should probably follow that shit
Kayden Ward
I once spent 3 weeks trying to learn the kana. There was some shitty steam game I bought to try and help me along the way. I failed at it miserably and gave up. I wish I weren't so retarded. Watching anime for years and years hasn't taught me jack shit beyond how to say "Rub a dub dub thanks for the grub" and "I'm home!"
Nathan Mitchell
>There was some shitty steam game
It wasn't Hiragana Battle, was it?
Because fuck you that game is awesome and spearheaded my japanese language learning
If it was that shitty music game 'hiragana pixel party' well you have yourself to blame
Aaron Taylor
Apparently it's called "Learn Japanese to Survive"
Pretty sure it's an RPG maker affair. The game itself is fine enough for an alphabet learning game. It's me that's the problem. I can't bring myself to acquire the things I desire. Apparently I'd rather just desire them forever and be retarded.
Mason Young
>'nice gaijin who can speak japanese'. i'm fine with this
Cameron Reyes
>he couldn't wrap his head around learn japanese to survive
Hiragana battle clicks by the end and you can understand spoken japanese like I did in this video
If you were struggling it's because you didn't use a notebook which the game fucking tells you to do . You need a notebook to learn japanese. Do that.
Joshua Miller
>learn 6000 words in under a year >having to take N1 to be able to live in Japan This is complete bullshit. I know people who've worked in Japan for years and don't have anything even close to N1 levels of fluency
Brody Perez
>Why would I even want to move to Japan? To drive rad cars and be ironic about everything.
Oliver Russell
Probably got married. marriage visa is the only way to skip the JLPT when it comes to getting a job.
once you're an old geezer the "work experience" shortcut opens up but if you really insist on waiting until you're an old coot to move to japan well more power to you i guess
Dylan King
The folly is saying you need N1 for every job. Stuff like programming you don't need as great Japanese (because it's not like the programming language changes from country to country), even at worst you could always became an english teacher or as hotel staff which has very little japanese requirements. Spot on about needing at least a bachelor's though.
Christopher Brown
An N1 really does give you the best chance though. Why not go for the N1? it will only help you
Christopher Sanchez
Because N1 is fucking hard. Definitely possible, but the time frames you put above simply don't seem realistic. You'd have to study pretty autisticly every day to do that, let alone also learn grammar, not to mention at the same time as doing this you're likely to been in college (since you need a bachelor's for jobs in japan anyway). Doing that all in the time frame given won't happen.
That being said, if you're in college for 4 years anyway you have a lot of time to work on your japanese. I started japanese when I first got into college and being a second year now I'm about N4 level so.
Joshua Bailey
The grammar guide in the OP seems to emphasize the importance of memorizing hiragana and katakana stroke order. Why should I care about stroke order if I have no intention of learning how to read handwriting or write myself?
Thomas Gonzalez
Stroke order is a complete waste of time, don't bother learning it. Even native Japanese people nowadays don't remember how to write many kanji by hand since they're so used to keyboards.
Jaxon Diaz
Fuck off fat gaijin we are full
Cameron Howard
>>once you're an old geezer the "work experience" shortcut opens up
Talk to me, user. What sort of work experience and how many years before it counts? I might be willing to just change jobs and git gud at something for a couple decades rather than try to learn a new language.
Adrian Myers
yes, you have to study autistically to pass the N1 in two years. It is possible, even while in college and while working a job, but you'd have to do things like disregard videogames and disregard women for a while.
If you're setting a 4-year goal for yourself (such as that as doing a bachelor's), passing the N1 in four years is much more achievable with a relaxed pace.
I can't stress enough the importance of N1 in making your life in Japan as safe as possible.
Don't you fucking WANT the priviledge of showing your badge to your future employers? "Hey, check my N1, bitch"
Remember again that the work visa in Japan ONLY qualifies you for the MOST COMPETETIVE JOBS in japan. You NEED something like N1 to make yourself shine above the competition.
Levi Wilson
do you still need a bachelors if youre rich?
David Young
Easy access to Japanese qts?
What else?
Who else here /racetraitor/ for those azns?
Anthony Ward
>disregard videogames More like >play Japanese video"games" >surpass N1 by far
Sebastian Rogers
なぜここにあるの? このスレってば
Chase Williams
There is a "10 years work experience" shortcut in a single industry for moving to Japan.
So for example, if you were a chef for 10 years, you could move to a japanese restaraunt as a chef without needing the JLPT, so if you job hobbed even once in 10 years you're fucked, and your destination job has to be the same job you have the experience in.
if you want to skip the JLPT another way, you could do something like a job transfer. work for an international company in america (for example, Toys R Us), then transfer to Japan down the line. You'll still need a bachelor's degree, that won't go away, but you can skip the JLPT. the downside to doing this is that you're working a for a foreign company in japan so you really -arent- experiencing japanese culture. but if your only goal is to live near akihabara and go to maid cafes or some shit after work, more power to you.
Camden Howard
I'll just vacation in Japan every few years or so I think that's easier desu
Nolan Mitchell
Me, whatever gets me the yellow puss I'm trying to work towards a decent JLPT level by the time I graduate. At this point though I'm trying to actually start anki and do self-study rather than take the Japanese classes at my uni. The classes have been fun and helpful but at this point there are few classes left at my level and it also kills your GPA (since the Japanese professors always grade your shit so harshly). I'm actually currently looking for programming internships in Japan since my college requires two internships before I can graduate.
Dylan Watson
How do you keep them around though is my issue? Every asian I've dated comes from a hyper-competitive/successful background, all looking for that rich consultant type to match.
I get laid but nothing too long term since I'm not on that level of success. Yet.
Jeremiah Reed
Are you rich, user?
How rich?
Cultural visa is how the rich people get into japan. Invest like $300,000 in a japanese company and you're in.
If you're kind of rich, but not totally rich, student visa is another option
$13,000 and you get to live for two years in japan while studying japanese, and they prepare you for japanese university, so you could stay up to 6 years in japan without needing to get a job.
Robert Morgan
At the moment I don't think there's too much you can do, if you're in college you're on the right track though. I've always felt the Japanese in particular didn't care about social status as much as other asian (especially Chinese) do
Ethan Thompson
>how do you keep japanese women around
Set career goals for yourself. Women want a man with an agenda. That's not a just-japan thing, that's an all-over-the-world thing.
So yeah, in the case of Japan you'll need to create a career path for yourself to develop inside Japan.
Ryan Collins
True. Last girl I dated was Singaporean. She didnt know really what she wanted to do with her life. But I promise you she knew EXACTLY what she wanted out of her man.
Tbh I just wish I wasnt such a shut in speg growing up and actually focused on self improvement instead. Now I'm playing catch up, but I just want a qt.
Gabriel Cooper
As much as I like Japanese shit, it's a useless language
So I spend several years learning it so I can read some untranslated manga (don't even know where to start looking for those), untranslated videogames (which I have little time for) and what else
I can go to Nippon and talk to the locals, ok great but not necessary. I can also work there but why would I? The place is fucking depressing to work in
No thanks I'll learn a useful language instead
Oliver Ross
>decent JLPT level by the time I graduate
You made the right choice by disregarding college-level japanese. It's a waste of time and money. You can self-study yourself way farther than uni will take you. Uni only takes you to N3 level. As I described in the OP, you can get yourself N3 ready for free within just a year.
N2 and N1 are self-study exclusive tiers. College will never prepare you for N1. Ever. So whether or not you can get yourself N1 is entirely up to you. Just how much time are you willing to devote to Japanese? >Stroke order is a complete waste of time, don't bother learning it
I know bait when i see it
Jacob Adams
Sounds to me like you need more exposure/social interaction with women
Do you spend too much time talking to men? You should be talking to a woman, even online, at least once a day.
Owen Murphy
This is Sup Forums, dont we all? But yeah. Been almost a shut in since graduation, slowly regressing backwards. New people i meet now are either work or tinder related.
Jacob Gutierrez
this is the most retarded way to study a language. First off, learning vocab and kanji just from flash cards is retarded, you needto actually speak with people and fluent people. second, the decks are hardly enough to teach you proper vocab. Better to join a class or club in your area, pick up remembering the kanji and learn grammar on your own
Bentley Perry
>The place is fucking depressing to work in
Says the horrible weather flag.
Jackson Russell
wow thats pretty good. Im sure I could find a company to dump some investment cash into. . still want to learn the language before I head over though.
>going to college >2017
Isaac Baker
play videogames that women play. throw away just a tiny bit of your masculinity and open up to women just a bit. you'll understand after a while. you have to think like a woman to win the woman, but this isn't really the topic for that
the last thing i'll say on this subject is in the case of asian women, Koreans and Phillipino women play this game almost religiously: youtube.com/watch?v=WxQQogUd18k
if you're looking to talk to a korean woman this is a good start. won't help you with the japanese women in the slightest though.
Nathaniel Richardson
Every women will cheat on you unless you're very good looking AND you can fuck her like a porn star on a daily basis.
If people here actually lifted and were tall / muscular (6'2" 220lbs 12% BF), you'd understand. When I lived in Japan, nearly every married Japanese women that I talked to wanted to hook up and girls with their boyfriends present would stare and smile and would give me their number if I talked to them.
This happens in the U.S. too, but I think Japanese women cheat more than any other country's women.
James Allen
I think I'll just try marrying a Japanese chick
Tyler Carter
Forgot to add that Women are all whores and you should never get into a long-term relationship with them, at least until you're like 50 or something.
Cameron Ward
>You should be talking to a woman, even online, at least once a day. I didn't know there was a worse way to waste your time than browsing Sup Forums until I read this.
Take a life-long committment like Judo training and you're set on the cultural visa for life.
Camden Barnes
>marrying a japanese chick without learning japanese and without moving to japan
Good luck.
Cameron Foster
I took the college classes since I might as well get credit for taking Japanese if I'm going to study it. Having an actual Japanese person is nice as well, there's a lot of minute things they can explain to you. I'm at the point now however where the college classes are all memorization (and therefore less fun) and I can pretty much do that with flash cards.
If you know the Genki books, after my fourth Japanese class here we just finished chapter 18 in Genki. I think it goes to 22 chapters and after that you're supposed to be good for N4. So that's where I'm currently at, not sure if I should self-study the last few chapters or just start anki now.
Jack Gray
Hands off Japan you stupid weebs. Let the land of the Jap stay Japanese, that's the whole point of its existence - to prove that it's possible to make it through a demographic and a subsequent economic crises without Diversity™. You're ruining the last hope of your beloved Yurop
Logan Butler
user, you should have started anki a year ago.
You cannot ignore the 6k and 10k core decks. And since it takes about a year to pass them, why delay?
Jose Moore
Honestly this is stupid in so many levels. Why are you guys so obsessed with japan and asians like wtf Sup Forums I know you like their woman but is that really necessary to do such trivial things to go to japan? If anything all that time wasted on this can be used for other stuff that can help you tenfold.
William Bailey
>let the Jap stay japanese
most of the immigrants going to japan want the japanese to remain japanese. nobody doesn't want that.
It's about awakening a new way to live.
In Japan, there is another style of life completely contrary to the west in regards to their social constructs.
The only way to experience these social constructs first-hand is to well, go to japan, since they're the only country that practices these social constructs.
On the economic side, there's things like god-tier restaraunts and lots of cool merchandise if you're into that kind of thing.
Japan offers a very specific demographic something special, while people in the west are getting more of the same. Sometimes people want something different. I think that's what this thread is about.
Adrian Miller
I already told you why doing that in a year is a meme. Along with stroke order.
Nathaniel Gonzalez
Nigger this is Sup Forums.
Most here either grew up weebs or still are weebs.
I guarantee that even if they dont like anime anymore, there still is that deep down desire to at least visit Japan once. Probably only killed by actually visiting and seeing it for yourself.
Henry Morgan
WHy the fuck would I want to move to japan?
Aaron Baker
Now why would I want to move to japan?
Adrian Robinson
>>let the Jap stay japanese It's not what I said, read again
Samuel Cook
Nigger I like anime and shit but it's so stupid trying live in japan rather than visiting it. It seems like a rather retarded dream and sounds like a escape from reality if anything. Japan isn't some fucking land that magical living there will wipe all your problems.
Grayson Hill
>projecting this hard does it hurt
Luis Young
this has gotten me curious, do you really need a bachelors? or could you just have a ton of experience in working?
Andrew Roberts
Bachelor's is a requirement for a shit ton of work visas.
Nicholas Long
Oh I agree. That's why I specifically said visit, not live. I dropped that notion years ago when I realized I'm not as Asian as I thought.
Mason Harris
i have a diploma from a college and working for senior positions in programming. I have always entertained the idea of programming in japan but i dont really know the best route
Gabriel Clark
How To Not Move To Japan In One Easy Step:
1. Don't move to Japan.
Colton Brown
どうもありがとうございます、アノンさん、日本語が勉強します!
Andrew Moore
The only useful languages to learn are the ones that useful for YOU and you will have passion to learn.
Adam Reed
>giving a shit about japan >posting this shit on Sup Forums
sage
Carson Clark
check gaijinpot.com there's always a lot of programming positions
Jonathan Cruz
Second that, I completed the Kanjidamage site and it was awesome
Ethan Hill
Japan currently needs immigrants to sustain the workforce. But they're choosing to only import the immigrants that will contribute to japanese society without destroying it
is this not ideal for you?
Carson Ward
nice thats pretty sweet too.
Isaac Harris
danke toothpaste bro, enjoy this source baiting image
Connor Ortiz
Programming is good because like I said before, you don't need as much Japanese for that as many other jobs. By far the biggest thing holding you back is not having at least a Bachelor's. I don't know too too much about the work visa situation, but I know Bachelor's Degrees are requirements for most (if not all) of them. If getting a Bachelor's isn't an option then you might be restricted to marrying a Japanese national or working in a foreign company and then being transferred to a Japanese branch.
Tyler Baker
Fucking weebs. Move to a white country like Austrailia or something
Daniel Gray
There's a reason so many of those fucks kill themselves each year.
Luis Perez
I learned japanese and translated some porn games. I thought it was worth it.
Ryan Harris
I don't want to live there permanently. But I DO want to stay there for about 2-3 years. What's your suggestion?
Kayden Taylor
Easiest route is to English teach for a few years. That has no Japanese requirement.
Julian Young
a lot of jobs in programming require degrees but if you have a lot of experience its a trade up. I'm sure the same thing will apply, the degree barrier is just the same, they are looking for people with experience and they know aren't plebs
Josiah Scott
I worked in Japan for two years, for a large Japanese carmaker. Never learned a word of Japanese. Just spoke English to everyone. When they didn't understand I shouted louder. Never had a problem. Learning Japanese is for twinks.
Jonathan Perez
But user what if even SHE doesn't know Japanese?
Samuel Stewart
I dont mean to discourage anyone but
i went to japan to learn japanese. took a 2year intesnive course and passed the JLPT to get into college. As a gaijin you pretty much have to submit to living in the lower class of society which i coulnd't take. im now back in canuksitan and use Japanese mainly to read 2ch and play ero games, don't even care or talk to Japanese people. To be honest i think i wasted my time and regret being such a weeaboo, could have learned something more useful.
Honestly, I want to go to Japan for the car culture. The women don't really seem all that special to me. I honestly think if you like Asian women Taiwan would be a better place to look. They are a lot more like westerners culturally than the Japanese are and aren't as trashy as the S. Korean girls. No shit they'll suck your dick right at the bar for a little bit of cash, specially if they know you're an Army man. I found that out in my more degenerate days of life.
Luis Taylor
Damn nigga, you gotta think of crafty ways to use your language skills.
Joseph Young
>moving to japan to date a foreigner
Tyler Mitchell
For a Leaf you're Alpha as fuck, I bet you have Brazilian blood.