I feel like a lot of people on Sup Forums don't understand what exactly it is they're dealing with

I feel like a lot of people on Sup Forums don't understand what exactly it is they're dealing with.

Russia is a foreign entity who's goal is seriously the internal destabilization of the US and its allies in Europe. We're talking about an ideologically driven fascist here. Right now Russia is economically and military confined (to greater or lesser extents). It should stay that way until Putin and his cronies die off. Anything less and they'll just keep taking chunks of eastern europe.

Only stupid people would "want a better relationship with Russia," if it meant overlooking/denying/dismissing them meddling in our election and their actions abroad (Ukraine), not acknowledging the real threat Putin poses to the rest of the world.

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>keep taking chunks of eastern europe.

Your a fucking cuck, the only thing they took was Crimea, a part of the Soviet Union they gave to Ukraine years ago. That was to protect it's inhabitants, mostly Russians. All the while, the US and Russia's cuck neighbours surround them with a military build up.

And they are the aggressor? Wake the fuck up kid.

Shit bait m8

Crimea was part of Russia since 1783 even.

Ah, russia at least has some imperial inclination that also sees the value of nurturing christianity and the benefit of not persecuting jews....

USA has become a socialist quagmire.....

sorry, you have no power here shill

>We're talking about an ideologically driven fascist here.
Putin is probably one of the least ideologically driven people on the entire planet, lol.

Russia is agressor and all their neighbouring countries distrust them.

>Suddenly liberals like borders and national sovereignty

Really makes you vomit

America and Russia can't be friends cuz they want different things:
>America wants to rule the world and for Russia to submit like a little bitch
>Russia doesn't want to submit to America

Trumpfags don't understand this fundamental difference.

Maybe Trump should give them Finland as a show of goodwill.
Maybe they could start uncucking Sweden from there.

Prove it.

The moment proof is delivered is the moment opinions change.

The problem is that there is no proof, there is only the word of a clandestine intelligence agency made famous for this type of bullshit and lingering animosity and distrust towards Russia.

There is also the problem that we know for a fact that the DNC "hack" (it was a leak) and the podesta "hack" (mixture of a leak and phishing scam) were not done by the Russians.

And even if they were hacks all they did was reveal terrible and criminal elements in our own government.

Tl;Dr we know it wasn't the Russians and you have no proof to show it was.

Americans wants America and for every else to fuck off from America.

If you are cool with that I'd love to work with Russia to explore the universe. Remember we went to the moon out of competition, imagine what we could do through cooperation.

>Russia is a foreign entity who's goal is seriously the internal destabilization of the US and its allies in Europe
on the other hand all those eu and usa sanctions and military campaigns against rusia are done with love and the best intentions in mind

saged

Policing the world on our own has become expensive. If we could get Russia to share the burden that might be advantageous for both of us.

Op do you even can not into current events? Or is it history you're lacking?

The Crimea voted to become part of Russia. Its full of ethnic Russians. Its been part of Russia for 200 years. This was a Russia mistake that was theirs to fix. And they did it without bloodshed, just some swagger and a ton of butthurt.

The US gets to interfere militarily in Afghanistan, we aren't the world fucking police and yet WE interfere 'abroad' on a mighty scale. You can't cast pebbles when you have a boulder in your own damn eye. But the Crimea was merely a domestic incident; a family squabble, not 'abroad' in any sense of how the US military flexes its own muscles unilaterally.

Its 2017, and this backward thinking of Russia as the bogeyman of the 1960s really needs to come up to modern times so that we make a world that is as peaceful as we can get it to be.

>meddling in our election

Who is stupid, now? A whistleblower exposing the crimes, corruption and treason of the DNC, and their betrayal of the American people, does not equal "'meddling' in the US election". No matter who exposed the DNC's corruption, they did the RIGHT thing.

Which is how you can tell when a shill is from the DNC, pushing Big Bad Russia to take the heat off their crimes. If they don't shift blame and make the voters forget their crimes and treason, they'll -never- win another election.

I thought the left didn't believe in borders and nations? Please try to be ideologically consistent.

>ukraine

no such thing

>t. Hillary bitch

>MUH RUSSIAN BOOGY MAN MUH ECONMES MAH HAMBURGER STOCK

This is what a burger diet does to your critical thought process ignore amerifat scooter shitter.

Any kind of fascism will be superior to the jewish liberalism we have on modern west.

Russia is a shit. Putin & criminals government doesn't give a fuck about Russians. They just defends the oil and their assets to keep being wealthy and keep power. A life of a Russian in Russia is worth less then a life of a homeless lousy dog for Putin.

Is WW3 coming goys

You don't get it, conservatives are, at their very core, cucks. They have always submitted to authority whether it's strong-man leaders or CEOs of major companies. This is simply their nature.

Well sound's like America and Russia has more in common than we thought!

Russia is a damn fine country to ally with
>white people
>christian
>2nd best army in the world
>recently paid back debts to Rothschild and then banned them from entering ever again

If I was an american, this is definately a country I'd wanna work with

Daily reminder i'm pasting everywhere:

Personal income of Russians shrank by 52.2% in January 2016 as compared to December 2015. According to the report by the state statistics body Rosstat, the monthly income in January averaged only 21365 rubles (about USD $291)

Wages in Germany increased to 3695 EUR/Month in the second quarter of 2016 from 3655 EUR/Month in the first quarter of 2016. Wages in Germany averaged 3072.94 EUR/Month from 1991 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 3695.00 EUR/Month in the second quarter of 2016 and a record low of 1832.00 EUR/Month in the fourth quarter of 1991.

The average American monthly salary was $3,769 in 2011. This was equivalent to averages of $45,230 per year, or $21.74 per hour. The group with the highest averages was management, with $8,950 per month.

[Citation needed]

By now, thats just a conspiracy theory.

rt.com/uk/228227-british-army-psychological-warfare/

rt.com/uk/372575-army-cyber-warriors-recruiting/

"British military’s online trolling unit fails to attract enough recruits"

This doesn't count the high taxes in Germany to pay for lazy Muslims

Except wages, healthcare quality, human rights and so on.

Your country is more irrelevant than mind. I mean you literally getting cucked from both sides by US and Alaska like two BBC penetrating a small white gurl.

I agree on that conditions, where's my visa?

The irony of this board is that they do not realize why Putin is driving a somewhat aggressive foreign policy. He doesn't have a master plan, he is in fact pretty desperate.

Just look at Louisiana and Detroit for comparison. The City folk doesn't give a fuck about the rest of the population and is a bunch of liberal dog fuckers.

Anglos standing up for a country that rebelled against you and caused empire to collapse than cucked you by forcing you in Desert Storm. Ok Mr. Crumpet.

most of Sup Forums is an entity who's goal is the internal destabilization of the US and it's allies in europe

This

You are right.
But we are like USA's remora fish so... that's why US politics is important to us Canadians

Which only makes him more dangerous. An oligarchy free to mask it's authoritarian regime under whichever masks suits him at the time.

Not even close. If America wanted to rule the world it would of done so after WW2. There are people(globalists) think the top 1%ers who use the american military to plunder and destabilize countries.

Putin told said people to fuck off and all the American,European shills attack Russia now. Putin stands for nationalism if anything.

This better be b8

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This.

>We're talking about an ideologically driven fascist here.

>Anything less and they'll just keep taking chunks of eastern europe.

yeaaaaaah, you sure do understand a lot of thing about Russia

oh, wait

>1 post by this ID

nevermind then, should've guessed

He's afraid to lose the control of the oil, it's everything in Russia. It's power and money which they keep in Switzerland and spend in first world countries, you have nothing to afraid, they are shit.

I would prefer Cameron and his team was our president and make things how they should be in a decent country. But it's impossible, so I will emigrate.

A stronger Russia is a good thing. Fuck off shill.

This. Awesome reply leaf.

Genuine question:

How do we know whether it's the US' goal to destroy Russia, or whether it's Russia's goal to destroy the US?

>Only stupid people would "want a better relationship with Russia,"

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Move to America and defect as a Bothan Spy. Tell the burgers Putin is creating hybrid Panda/Dog/Robots with lazers they will believe you because all the fat in there brains.

See Sup Forums? Russian spies all over.

Tell your government to stop funding proxy wars and the world will trade with you. Russia needs global markets more than we need them. Stand up ivan!

>Putin isn't like those meanie 1%ers


Putin destabilizes countries and is corrupt for personal gain and nepotism more than anyone except Dick Cheney

Eastern Europe was historically part of the Russian Empire. Them leaving led to enormous destabilization in the world including WWII. Also Eastern Europeans are subhumans and need someone like Russia to pacify and civilize them. It only makes sense for them to go back. US should assist Russia in annexing those countries IMO.

No, it isn't. Russia was left with nothing after the USSR was destroyed, the best people left the USSR and moved to the first world countries.

Russia doesn't have qualified scientists, engineers, doctors and so on. It's a bunch of criminals and savages in the majority with the corresponding mentality.

Russia shouldn't have power at all.

Erm....

>Libya
>Egypt
>Syria

Just shhhh you fat fuck

>Dick Cheney

Is more of a nigger than I'll ever be.

H-1B visa is a better solution for me.

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Moral false equivalency. Use critical thinking you effeminate bitch

lel

You sound jewish...

Underrated post

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With Trump we are getting there soon enough.

Just gerrymander all the opposition away!

>Russia is a foreign entity who's goal is seriously the internal destabilization of the US and its allies in Europe
And?
It's literally impossible for them to do this while the emperor sits at the head of our government
That's the whole point

>a part of the Soviet Union they gave to Ukraine years ago
They literally stole the area from the Ukrainians in 1916

>not acknowledging the real threat Putin poses to the rest of the world.
Russian-Activities-and-Intentions-in-Recent-US-Elections

Putin was the only tinhorn manlet dictator shrieking that he was going to use nuclear weapons if anybody resisted his invasion and occupation of Ukraine. He was also the only tinhorn manlet dictator shrieking that he was going to use nuclear weapons if anybody investigates his war crimes in Syria.

Putin even threatened to drop nukes in Norway, for fuck sakes. That's how you provoke a world war.

Everybody who doesn't work directly for the Kremlin should have read the ThreatConnect and Crowdstrike technical reports that are really compelling compelling evidence of Russian hacking

Those that do work for the Kremlin are here on Sup Forums reading off their social media scripts and shrieking "proofs! proofs!" and then completely ignoring the mountain of hard evidence.

Just like the birthers who fell for the mere hint of a rumor that Obama *didn't* have a birth certificate,even holding the original copy of Obama's Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth will never be enough evidence.

It was easy to turn the right wing against America because of their Koch-sponored hatred of government and their white supremacist-sponsored hatred of minorities, immigrants and women.

The Kremlin trolls are the new birthers and the confirmation-bias conservatives are their new disinformation targets.

We know what we're dealing with, Abe.

Wrong
Ukraine was part of them since 1783

Maybe fucking over people stuck in a bad situation is a bad thing to do.

Also Maybe they end up nuking you. They would have a lot less to lose.

>When you afraid your own citizens.

>sees the value of nurturing christianity and the benefit of not persecuting jews....
Literally made it illegal to deny the holohoax and draw Muhammad while their population is 20% mulim and growing
Kill yourself cuck

>ideologically driven fascism
>implying that's a bad thing

You do realize what board this is, yes?

Never going to happen
Finland and the US has had a very close relationship ever since WW2

>Russia
>white
If you keep saying the same thing all the time it won't become truth.

They're done because Russiastan won't stop trying to steal clay
If they left Ukraine and Crimea the sanctions would vanish

>christian
Literally 20% muslim

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>Fascists are dangerous
>Pragmatists are dangerous

Really activates my almonds.

Who's left?

I'm too pure to click that link. What is it?

Get away this chiiit.

>Russia is a foreign entity who's goal is seriously the internal destabilization of the US and its allies in Europe
>Sup Forums is an internet entity whose goal is seriously the internal destabilization of the US and its allies in Europe
best friends 4 life

If it was really so important to you that people read the ThreatConnect and Crowdstrike technical reports here, why did you never think to post about it? I went and searched for ThreatConnect's reports on Guccifer/DCLeaks and they were written months back. People loved political gossip here.

Putin is smarter than the other world leaders.

Russia has a many raw materials that it shares with the EU. Its also a huge market for goods.

By raising tensions the US ensure the EU limits trade with Russia, thus weakening both its rivals and strengthening itself

Whats funny is Putin is still around because no one has presented a strong alternative. Several tried but never gained support from the people.

Crimea voted to join Russia, if they left Crimea they'd be sanctioned for not respecting democracy or some shit.

They never even went into Ukraine so not sure how they can leave.

>If they left Ukraine and Crimea the sanctions would vanish
Lol. NATO loves to punish the losers

Oh so 80% Christian then?

wat

There is one sign of suckers. They are post PutIn.

What the leftist/democrat shillls seem to willfullly ignore is that Guccifer 2.0 hacked some meaningless fucking bullshit that had 0 impact on the election.

It was the DNC documents that revealed collusion against Sanders, and those were handed over to WikiLeaks by Seth Rich who was murdered with two shots in the back in "bothed robbery"

Nobody still knows who leaked the Podesta stuff.

Yeah, Putin's retards probably were behind Guccifer 2.0, and precisely because they are retards they didn't accomplish anything of any value.

>George Soros is a foreign entity who's goal is seriously the internal destabilization of the US
FTFY

7.5/10
Pretty tasty bait

>dat google translate
Must be something like
Cдeлaeм Aмepикy Beликoй Cнoвa

>Russia is a foreign entity who's goal is seriously the internal destabilization of the US and its allies in Europe.
Can't be worse than the traitorous government genociding their own people. I have more reason to be loyal to Putin than my own government.

>le george soros maymay

how does it feel to be baited by fake news this easily

Diplomacy is now being compared to Chamberlain style appeasement, from the party that supports the Iran nuke treaty...

The US cannot hold everyone under 1 superpower boot heel. CIA's antics are a living nightmare. Open war with the Eurasian power bloc would be suicide for all parties.