The real reason why Germanics never had any ancient civilizations

You often see Nordcucks making nigger tier excuse for why the Germanic tribes took so long to become civilized, but the reality is that the reason was both genetic and environmental. Before the Neolithic, Europe was inhabited by it's indigenous hunter gatherer population. They could NEVER manage to develop agriculture and therefore civilization on their own no matter where they settled, favorable environment or not. Agricultural civilization was brought to Europe by Middle Eastern immigrants from Anatolia, Caucasus, Mesopotamia and Persia, in various different waves of migration during the entire timespan of the Neolithic. These people were predominantly dark haired and dark eyed with light skin, in contrast to the Euro hunter gatherers who had light eyes, light hair and dark skin. Hunter gatherer ancestry is highest in Northern Europe and Neolithic farmer ancestry is highest in Southern Europe, both of them demonstrating the typical traits associated with their ancestral populations (Finns have the most hunter gatherer ancestry and are the blondest, Sardinians are the closest related people to the early farmers and are one of the darkest people in the continent).

tl;dr Nordcucks took longer to become civilized due to their higher hunter gatherer ancestry and Southern Euros created European civilization mostly due to having the most ancestry from the Neolithic farmers. Environment does play a part, but genetics do even more.

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holy shit are you still upset because you got BTFO in that other thread?

They were savage pagans who didn't have Christianity yet and basically couldn't even get the Holy Roman Empire set up after they fought off the attempts by Real Rome to do something with them.

> took so long to become civilized

Only countries to accomplish it so far though.

Are you bored of making these threads yet, BR monkey?

Wow, christianity, really made me think. It must be why it's going so good for christian nigger and spic nations. Thanks for opening my eyes, rabbi!

>warm climates favor farming
>cold climates favor hunter gathering

OP is under the assumption that hunter gatherers stay put in their respective countries instead of constantly move around, and wrote a bunch of pseudo-intellectual bullshit.

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And to you: Southern europeans settled 1000 years before nothern europeans settled. That means southern europeans had a 1000 year headstart, when it comes to progress.

>the Neolithic. These people were predominantly dark haired and dark eyed with light skin
vs
>Sardinians are the closest related people to the early farmers and are one of the darkest people in the continent

so the farmers were light, but their descendants are dark?
pls check your theory for consistency before posting it here

Why didn't the hunter gatherers develop agriculture in the warmer regions they settled though? They literally had to be civilized by Middle Easterners.

even if you're off by one, this is a very valid point

Granted we had to adapt the stories to the point where you could continue to be secret pagans, but that's a big part of what got you to stop raiding people and work together and behave yourselves. And it turns out you were quite capable of civilization after that truce.

Dark in terms of eye and hair color.

>Savage pagan

Daily reminder that there is nothing wrong with paganism and paganism is what built the basis of European civilizations. Not only that, but the Christianity just resides within pagan traditions (monarchism, democracy) and aimed it for it's own. The Germanic tribes refused to live in cities and constantly expand themselves and their birders because they weren't fucking retards who would use up the lands until they were barren like the ancient Mesopotanains and Romans did until they starved to death from soil segregation and overpopulation.

Embrace acrhaeo futurism and eugenics. Paganism > cucktianity. Christian's stole their mode if thought from the stoics and pagans.

While the vikings raided, they brought back many things. Teachers, technology, all kinds of fancy shit etc., but they also brought christianity, unfortunately. Look at all the great civilizations of Europe before christianity. Ancient Greece and Rome was great despite not being christian. Europe was great because she was european, and not because she was christian.

>All these typos

Reeee mobile is the worst. You get the idea though. Christianity didn't do shit for Western civilization. It did about as much as Islam did, and most of their inventions came from the Persians.

But that's wrong. They were raiding everybody else so much that everybody was like fuck these assholes what the fuck.

>Retard thinks that pagans=vikings
European ancient mythology? That's paganism too.

That's my point, dick. You stole our technology to build your civilizations, but at least in the end we were able to negotiate an end to the incessant self-destructive fighting.

This
Also, every western """"christian"""" tradition is actually pagan. Christmas for an example

We let ourselves be inspired, yes. Norse pagans had the best boat technology, so not everything did we steal.

>That's what got us to stop raiding each other
>Christcucks actually believe they stopped any violence at all

Topkek let's just ask the galatians what they th- oh wait.

Exactly. You were fundamentally capable of being civilized and productive the whole time. But the key to that was working together, and even though modern Christianity is getting worse by the year, that was a key component in setting the stage for what came next.

Germans tried to use it as I mentioned in trying to set up the Holy Roman Empire.

Even the Russians took it from Constantinople in order to develop from warring tribes into a modern nation-state.

Not really. The ethnic fighting was always there but Christianity didn't do anything to actually alleviate it, even then the pagans were mostly peaceful people who lived off the land and only fought when they had to (unless you are referring to the Viking age). Pre-Christianization of the Roman empire pagans were pretty based desu, at least if you believe Tacitus.

You could say the same of Native Americans, who I also regard as having a lot of underrated ideas about how to live. But they didn't develop in a way to be competitive with European expansion.

Bullshit. Europe didn't unite with christianity, it was the absolute opposite.

Arminius didn't unite the germans against the romans?
Europe didn't fight the biggest brother war ever over the interpretation of a kike doctrine? (Read: Thirty-years war)

Charlemagne's crusade against the saxons? Teuton's crusade agaist the eastern europeans?

30 years war was pretty brutal, but really, as with the dark ages, that was basically Jews playing divide and conquer. And now what have you got? The Jews are ruling over you via the EU.

Now of course the US fell prey to the Jews as well, but all that goes to show is that some doctrines are pro-civilization and others are anti-civilization.

They played divide and conquer the day they spread christianity into Europe. It divided Evropa, and the jews conquered.

>Didn't develop in a way that could stop (((Christian))) expansion


If you don't think misgenation and forced conversion to a Jewish god among a whole new race of people won't lead to continued intermingling then you are a moron.

That was Christian expansionism and colonialism which did nothing but cuck our race into oblivion. You're really not much different from Islam

This x10

>Inb4 christians is anti-jews, because they rejected Jesus as the Messias and handed him over to the romans
By christian doctrine, you should forgive them for it. Talk about being a cuck.

>Agricultural civilization was brought to Europe by Middle Eastern immigrants from Anatolia

Nope, vinca civilization is oldest known in europe with striking similarities to mesopotamia.

>Middle Eastern immigrants from Anatolia

Which were whites.

>These people were predominantly dark haired and dark eyed with light skin

Every looked up ancient sculptures and statues and how they really looked like?

moco-choco.com/2014/04/18/true-colors-of-ancient-greek-and-roman-statues/

>Sardinians are the closest related people to the early farmers

Iranians are also brownskinned. What does this tell us about the ancient population? Man, I share dna with kikes. What do you think were there any gene flow into my indo-european community or not? Use your brain.

Also everyone else was living in decadence while germanics kept their pure form of living.

You are the reason the Jew still exist in the first place. Had the Titus just wiped them off the face if the Earth and shut down their usury practices early on, Rome wouldn't have collapsed as fast as it did when it began to violently repress paganism. Christianity was the Marxism of its era.

By the way, before anyone tries to claim Indo-European immigrants who were responsible for spreading the language family most Europeans speak today were all "blonde and blue Aryans": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamna_culture#Physical_characteristics

>The genetic basis of a number of physical features of the Yamnaya people were ascertained by the ancient DNA study conducted by Haak et al. (2015), Wilde et al.(2014), Mathieson et al. (2015) : they were genetically tall (phenotypic height is determined by both genetics and environmental factors), overwhelmingly dark-eyed (brown), dark-haired and had a skin colour that was moderately light, though somewhat darker than that of the average modern European.[18][5] Surprisingly, given their pastoral lifestyle, there was little evidence of lactase persistence.

All evidence points towards light eyes and light hair being an Euro hunter gatherer thing, as Northern Europe has the most admix from them.

Yeah, I'll give you that one. And unfortunately it's shaping up to be the Marxism of this era as well.

I think the lesson here is that sometimes you really just have to execute people, not just exile and let them regroup and weasel back in.

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So... Europids then? Rlly makes u think.

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Vinca culture was during the Neolithic. They were likely descended from the early farmers from Anatolia and the Caucasus.

>citing jewpedia
>totally ignoring ancient scriptures and indian hymns
>totally ignoring ancient sculptures with blue eyes dating more than 8k years ago
>totally ignoring tocharian mummies

Mfw we can change our appearence in less than 2500 years.

Learn german you monkeyman.

de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donauschrift

>Execute people

It's more than that. Paganism's ideal if "blood and soil" requires that to take another's lands you need to completely wipe them off the face of the Earth or else you will create a "new blood" as with thr "new soil" you have only partially conquered. Jews can either go back and become the mizrahi again or it's time for shoah 2: ovens boogaloo

>there were blue eyed and blond people in ancient Rome therefore Germanic civilazation
>there were dark skinned people in Ancient Egypt therefore black civilazation

Can you guys stop the "WE WUZ"

Sorry monkey bro, Indo-Europeans brought agriculture to Europe, and they make up the majority of genetics, not to mention culture, of modern Europeans, as they absorbed natives.

Sad but true. I think it's no coincidence most major civilizations have have been a product of wiping out populations who didn't go along with it.

>there were blue eyed and blond people in ancient Rome therefore Germanic civilazation
Did I imply that shitskin? It's not germanic but nordic. Look at roman sculptures the more top tier roman the more nordic was his head.

So why did Portugal take even longer to become civilized?

They had the right climate, and you claim they had the right people.
So why were Egypt and Mesopotamia civilized while Portuguese still ate their own feces?

Absolutely deluded.

Are you also going to tell everyone that the aztecs and incans were blonde and blue eyes nordics?

It cites numerous studies as a source, but yeah, let's keep believing in WE WUZ garbage from Nordicists.

Agriculture was already established by the time they came. They were only responsible for spreading the languages.

>it's a Nordicist snownigger

I will start ignoring your posts from now on.

>whites didn't exist all around the globe in very ancient times
>all the excavated north european looking mummies are feek

[b]Some 40,000 years ago, Cro-Magnons -- the first people who had a skeleton that looked anatomically modern -- entered Europe, coming from Africa. Geneticists now show that a Cro-Magnoid individual who lived in Southern Italy 28,000 years ago was a modern European, genetically as well as anatomically. They conclude that the Neandertal people, who lived in Europe for nearly 300,000 years, are not the ancestors of modern Europeans.[/b]

Caramelli et al. A 28,000 Years Old Cro-Magnon mtDNA Sequence Differs from All Potentially Contaminating Modern Sequences. PLoS One, 2008; 3 (7): e2700 DOI: 10.1371/journal.pone.0002700

Fucking try hards

I don't understand how any of this matter today to the modern world - we're all fucked.

all you had to do was take the poo to the loo

was that so hard?

I poo in loo

404 I see a loo but no poo

>404 I see a loo but no poo

t. burger with scat fetish

This guy has been posting here for at least two years, he's some kind of Mediterraneanboo that has inferiority complex towards Mott Europeans