2nd Amendment Failed

How do Americans still believe that the 2nd amendment stops government tyranny. They are the ONLY country in the western world with gun ownership as an ingrained right, yet their government is more tyranical. It spies on it's own citizens. It locks up more of its citizen, mostly for non-violent crimes, than Red China. It has government policy that is downright unconstitutional.

How do Americans STILL say that the 2nd amendment limits government tyranny when that is clearly not the case?

Don't be mad just because you can't have them.
Sage and move on folks.

fuck aussies

When having a discussion, you're meant to address their arguments...

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>Arguments
Sure, for the 569th time this week? With the same copy pasted answers that you got of Democrats.net or momsagainstguns.com. No, you came in looking for a pissing match like you always do. So get bent and go fuck your kangaroo wife.

What, is having an actual political discussion violating the Sup Forums safe space?

You're argument is always that we need guns to stop government tyranny. You have guns. You have government tyranny. Can you see where your argument falls flat?

>tyranny
>cruel and oppressive government rule
Uh huh, hop off buzzfeed for .02 seconds and look at a reputable news source an realize you're retarded. Also, KYS yourself at the next opportune moment.

I'll reword then.

You're argument is always that we need guns to stop cruel and oppressive government rule. You have guns. You have cruel and oppressive government rule. Can you see where your argument falls flat?

>cruel oppressive gov't rule
Didn't realize there were military hit squads and martial law was in affect thanks for letting me know.

Moving the goalposts much? You still have the biggest surveillance state in the history of mankind. Why didn't your 2nd amendment stop that?

>the right to own anti surveillance equipment shall not be infringed
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Nice argument. KYS

If government is a tyranny we shouldn't we be more liberal in its usage?

Not that I think the government is tyrannical or anything.

lulwut?

Just because you are pissed your nanny state government won't let you have guns, video games, or porn doesn't mean you have to take it out on your superior American cousins.

There is no discussion. The gun control movement in the US died in the '90s.

The only people who support gun control now are retarded leftist college students and foreigners. Two groups who are so out of touch with reality that they are literally incapable of understanding that they are completely irrelevant.

Fucking this

Obama got pretty close with his 'common sense' gun control. I think Clinton had a similar platform. I wouldn't say it's gone away. Am I wrong?

read this and shut the fuck up forever you filthy leb.

lol no

Obama got fucking nowhere.

His flailing whining about common sense gun control sold record numbers of guns.

You're a fucking relic of a movement that died before you were born. Have the grace to fade into obscurity instead of embarrassing yourself on a daily basis.

That's because yanks like other westerners are too blue pilled to act.

I'm thinking its closer to this. Americans like to talk a good game but when it comes down to it, they will be cucks for the state.

where are your guns though faggot? oh yea dats right I forgot

Why would somebody from a cucked country with NO BILL OF RIGHTS feel the need to criticize American Guaranteed Freedoms. We have Rights and we protect them. If Strayans had a 2A, your country might be a decent place for a man to live, rather than subjects of a decadent foreign monarchy.

>We have Rights and we protect them.

If the Right to bear arms is there to stop government tyranny and government tyranny exists in a greater form than it ever has, then isn't the reasoning for having a right to bear arms fucking retarded?

Things haven't gotten bad enough to justify taking up arms against the government. We just elected Trump for fuck's sake. People still have a sense of freedom. Once the people feel like that freedom is gone, politicians heads will be rolling down capital hill.

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And Trump is going to be an authoritarian psychopath who has shown no signs of wanting to diminish the power of the state.

You're implying that the state having power is always a bad thing. If you know anything about the Articles of Confederation, you know it was a disaster. When things are starting to get fucked up and people willingly buy into Jew media, the federal government has to make decisions, like closing the fuckin borders. Besides, Trump aims to make it easier for the people to bear arms, not harder. That's hardly authoritarian

>The only people who support gun control now are retarded leftist college students and foreigners.
Spot on. The only people I hear whinging about gun control are millennial college students and kangaroos/bongs who were cucked out of their gun rights years ago, being left with .22s and firearms that've either been deactivated or chopped in half. I don't know how they can call our government authoritarian when theirs will kick down their doors and arrest them for so much as speaking ill of Muslims.

Gun rights haven't been this good for a long, long time.

They actually had ONE anti TSA related shooting, that's their glorious backlash against the government fingering their asses.
kek

1. The people are not in agreement as to the level of tyranny being perpetrated. If they were they have the means to do something.

2. Why, when the gov't wants to assist foreign rebels/uprisings the first thing they do is send small arms? To be of no use?

Lol stop reading Huffington Post

Our government is a little fucked right now, and the people complacent, but all it takes is a little something to push the people over the edge and it's fucking over. The politicians would be fucked

I remember before 1996 when Aussies had balls. Do you miss yours you fucking pussy cuck? Or are you happy as a castrated pussy?

Because it would be that much more worse without it. No one ever said the 2nd amendment is all that is needed to beat back tyranny.

literally who cares? if they want to watch me masturbating to gay furry loli porn then so be it. I can't stop them. but I CAN shoot a couple of the fuckers in the face if they want to harm me or mine IRL.

>CHTBs

Switzerland

Does not even allow CC.

>They are the ONLY country in the western world with gun ownership as an ingrained right

>ONLY country in the western world

>ONLY country

It's called being a super power my friend. When you're country doesn't matter, it's much easier to govern morally.

Maybe, but a "right" to buy a rifle and keep it at home while niggers bash your skull in while you are in the city is just a masturbatory phantasy.
Czech Republic, Estonia and Northern Ireland, which may have more restrictions but allow CC, are way more practical.

Questioning MUH GUNS violates the Burger safe space.
This is something they won't debate you on, ignorance is bliss for them..

The OP post does not even question the 2a itself but its sufficiency to fend off tyranny.

There's simply nothing to question or debate user

It's simply none of your concern.

Besides, you people aren't capable of debate.

You're completely immune to facts, logic, statistics, or history.

These threads are masturbatory fantasy for powerless foreigners who like to feel superior with no supporting evidence that they are.

The second amendment limits tyranny with the implication that we actually invoke and use it.

Our constitution outlines the right of the people to tear down the government and form a new one at any moment they so desire as long as that government no longer represents them and their wishes.

This country really should divide up. Let the commie states have their liberal Democratic government with Clinton at the helm. The rest of us will take Trump.

Compare the tyranny of the US vs other western countries. A tyrannical government has to go far slower when treading on rights because there's always going to be a good number of free speech advocates on both sides. And considering the republicans are in the white house, 2A will be expanded and the 1A will be protected. Though I have less hope on the spying.

Tyranny.... after we just held a national election in which the populst candidate won..... sure kid

Except for the fact that we have this copy pasta 3 times a day.have original thoughts faggot

1. Why do you care what happens in the US?
2. Ausfailia, Cu.cknia, Mexico, Germany, UK are prime examples of over run governments that have disarmed their people. They are victims in every sense. Fucking refugees raping their people and they no literally nothing. They cannot fucking defend themselves in any way. Canadians think they're so good cause they can still have hunting rifles and shotguns --- yet when some criminals run up to them with an illegal gun and robs them, what the fuck are they going to do? Their hunting rifles and shotguns are at home. They have no pistols to carry around when they are primed to be victims.

3. Muh government corruption guise. And how are government not corrupt? We all know they are corrupt so we should be giving them LESS POWER. Not more power to disarm you, retards. Mexico banned guns, look how safe their people are. Police literally shooting looters.