"He claimed that it may have been deliberately propagated as a subversive religion (a "psychological warfare weapon" or what some would call a "mimetic virus") within the Roman Empire by the Apostle Paul as a form of covert revenge for the Roman destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple during the Jewish War. However, in The Antichrist, Nietzsche has a remarkably high view of Jesus, claiming that the scholars of the day fail to pay any attention to the man, Jesus, and only look to their construction, Christ."
Nietzsche believed it was, but The truth must have been within Jesus. Would Paul deliberately subvert the truth jesus brought forth, perhaps because he was vindictive of how the roman empire prosecuted the Christians at the time?
After the destruction of the Jewish temple, and imprisonment of Jewish leaders, brought the end of the Roman-Judea war in 136 C.E.
So if the Jews got defeated, and most of their leaders imprisoned or executed how could they propagate this scheme of a subversive religion?
Was the apostle Paul a traitor? and perhaps was Jewish all along?
"He was from a devout Jewish family[31] in the city of Tarsus–one of the largest trade centers on the Mediterranean coast"
Christianity is real. Why don't you stop being so stubborn and ask him yourself if he is real. Jesus Christ will give you an answer, he's up there in space and his angels who are in another dimension will deliver his prayer to you. There is no barriers for God, he can hear all. His ears have no limit.
Robert Ortiz
>this thread again saged
Ayden Rivera
I pray to him, but i dont ask of anything, i just stay humble, and thank him for live, and the shelter and food i am given each day. I will ask him tonight, But Im having trouble deciphering his message.
Joseph Foster
>meanwhile goes and post in is x cucked or stupid social media drama.
This is actual historical, and political discourse.
fuck off.
Aiden Gutierrez
1 : jesus was a sand nigger. not white. 2 : jesus got a sword and attacked the bourgeoisie in front of the temple, giving leverage for a german centuries later to create the phrase : "seize the means of production". 3 : he used to hang out with sick people and whores. 4 : he got arrested and crucified ( hedindunoffin?) 5 : people say he ressurrected but he never gets back to refresh that story.
ok Sup Forums if christianity isnt degenerate i dare you to debunk those facts.
Oliver Jenkins
It's a subversive offshoot of the One True Religion, yeah. This isn't even arguable.
Carson Moore
If you can't hear him or aren't receiving no answer then you do not know him. Why don't you try reading the bible, you should be reading it everyday. You cannot simply find God, you have to search for him. And you have to search for him with a strong desire from your mind, your soul and heart to find him. Then you will receive answers to your prayer and he will communicate with you if you do not make a habit of sinning.
Jack Phillips
No.
Leftypol also has mentioned several times about how they'd make shill threads to "weed out" the Christians on this board and divide it even further (like they're doing with all the "nigger this, nigger that" threads).
Samuel Rodriguez
Religion is scam, it's time to take that red pill as well.
Jose Brooks
hi im circuncided, how do i sign in to be a jew?
Adrian Wilson
all religions are subversive
that's why they're called 'religion'
>inb4 le tippity tip meme
David Gray
>if you don't believe my sand martyr zombie story, you're a leftist
Nice try, kike.
Adrian Gomez
original meme. 'treat others as you treat yourself', boom should have fixed all relations. 'dude died for you'. 'son of god'. 'give yourself to him'. led to 'sacrifice'. Shit started cash, people took it serious.
Tyler Richardson
HALF of Christianity is a subversive lie, in that the old testament has no connection to Christ.
Jews are a made up race of people that did not exist until the Exodus. Moses is an Egyptian name, and Moses himself was just an Egyptian noble who rebelled against his family (that's why he didn't change his name to a "Hebrew" one after leaving Egypt) and started his own nation, populated by freed slaves from the different peoples Egypt conquered. To keep the mongrel horde from self-segregating (the Hittites using the image of a Hittite god, the Assyrians using the image of an Assyrian one, etc), he made sure that they could make no representation of god (no "idol worship"), and that's the cultural source of modern jews destroying classical beauty and replacing it with modern art, because they see us as idol worshipping heathens. Nobody in the ancient world worshipped literal statues like in the cheesy christian old testament movies, they just used them as representations of their gods, like any other religion. They mixed with the Canaanites when they conquered them, giving their descendants a common "semitic" ancestor and making them a "semitic" people. Modern jews mixed with other groups like Armenians, Khazars, Eastern and central Europeans, and Moors before forming their inbred enclaves in the west. All of the events in the old testament (written thousands of years afterwards) that can be historically backed up by other sources, are accredited to other individuals or groups of people, not the hebrews. The entire old testament is just hebrews taking stories of divine intervention and crediting them to their mongrel tribe to validate themselves to the other civilizations.
Leo Hill
>1 : jesus was a sand nigger. not white. Bible says that the middle east wasn't the Jews native land and they had to kill of canaanites and philistines to get Israel. And Jews today are mostly of European genes. >2 : jesus got a sword and attacked the bourgeoisie in front of the temple He attacked the merchants because they were selling and trading in a place meant for worship not for making money >4 : he got arrested and crucified ( hedindunoffin?) He did. God crucified him, God raised up the roman ruler since he was a boy. He predestined that judge who sentence Jesus to death long ago because God doesn't have limits, his mind has no limits and he can see all and tell the future. >5 : people say he ressurrected but he never gets back to refresh that story. He did get back, this is a book in the bible talking about his new body that gravity doesn't affect, made out of energy/light.
When we die we transition from beings of biological flesh and blood to beings of energy.
Zachary Morgan
Jesus himself knew this. He talked about how the pharisees and jews were not the heroes of the old testament, but just Canaanite devil worshippers. What Jesus preached was not political or superstitious like judaism, but much more broader and spiritual. The pharisees (all of Canaanite descent and the founders of modern talmudic Judaism) bribed their way into having him killed for it. Afterwards, the Pharisees put bounties on early Christians and lied to Roman authorities that they were practicing cannibalism (body and blood of christ) to get them involved before Constantine and whatnot. It actually makes more sense this way, as the God of the old and new testaments read like separate entities, and the only thing they have in common is the Messiah, in which Jesus was VERY different from the jewish belief of it. Christianity is a separate belief system from Judaism, and there's nothing "Judeo-" about our "Judeo-Christian" civilization or even much of Christianity itself, except that the yids hijacked it. Islam has more in common with Judaism than Christianity does.
Daniel Foster
>Thinking God let all bad stuff slide in Christianity Jesus message was peaceful in the first coming, so all got a chance to live a good life. Second coming will be about removing the pests from the world.
Leo Rogers
Romans adopted christianity, you germanics arent romans or related to them, you dont have to be christian, you are free to go back to your paganism, you just insult God with your bullshit Just go fucking back to your paganism, nobody is stopping you
Christianity is the path that people decided to follow You can look at the byzantines, they didnt enter a dark ages, of course they couldnt as they werent invaded by subhuman naked pigs
Justin Foster
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Eli Jackson
Its more easy if you kys.
Jackson Ramirez
>HALF of Christianity is a subversive lie, in that the old testament has no connection to Christ. Got that wrong, boyo. Jesus has no connection to the true word of God.
>Jews are a made up race kek.
Dylan Gomez
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Elijah Perry
But you lost to rome? If it were 136 CE i'd say to you, where is your god now? jew.
Thank you friend, I stop procrastinating and read the bible, just afraid im not gonna interpret it correctly.
Why does Nietzsche think it is? I could see why leftpol would say that Christianity is psyop but im a a fascist. So i dont care what they do, im simply looking at it from a historical perspective not a political one.
Easy to say that, impossible to prove. I refuse to give in to your materialistic world view that all that matters, is matter.
you tell me which seems more like a scam?
Parker Anderson
>When we die we transition from beings of biological flesh and blood to beings of energy. dude you debunked all my affirmations. but this last one made you look like a complete fool.
Andrew Price
>So if the Jews got defeated, and most of their leaders imprisoned or executed how could they propagate this scheme of a subversive religion? They'd been planning it for centuries in Persia. Under the guise of Zoroastrian magi. The Pope did the same thing eventually with Muhammad and Islam.
James Bennett
Jews were the first nation that received the Word of God. Still, they messed up so badly, God has forsaken them many times on the Old Testament. Jews are called the chosen people only because they were the first to get proper moral guide.
Carter Butler
Many times in the past, I've prayed that I'd cease to exist.
There is no logical reason for me to be here.
An omnipotent being should be able to remove a single element of its creation without hesitation or difficulty.
This served as proof-negative for me, not that proof-positive would have had any meaning for a nonexistent being.
Landon Robinson
>. Jesus has no connection to the true word of God. Your Torah testifies about Jesus, all the Jewish prophets who spoke of the messiah seem to be speaking of Jesus. How can you not believe Jesus is the messiah Jew? Drug addicts and whores completely change their lives around to this day miraculously when they accepted Jesus as the messiah and confessed it to God. They changed as human beings.
Nathaniel Evans
they are you fucking jew, if you were dead, with no identification, they would test your blood, and say you were Caucasian.
Are you enunciating than you can scientifically and empirically PROVE that you are indeed jewish? I think your confusing religion, with race. Which is absurd.
Akin to me saying im christian, not white.
Easton Perez
kek
Luke Rodriguez
>>he don't think it am like it be, but it do t.triggerededgelord
Lucas Lee
>God doesn't have limits, his mind has no limits and he can see all and tell the future. God exists outside space and time. There is no 'future' to him, there simply is. All things are, have been, and will.
>made out of energy/light ??? Pretty sure he literally resurrected. As in his mortal body returned to life, and later ascended to heaven.
Jacob Martinez
>shill threads >divide pol
this saged
Brandon Sanders
>all the Jewish prophets who spoke of the messiah seem to be speaking of Jesus You are delusional. >Drug addicts and whores Just about what your silly religion deserves.
>they would test your blood, and say you were Caucasian Ashkenazi Jews would show similarity to Europeans. Mizrahi Jews would show similarity to Arabs and Persians. Ethiopian Jews would show similarity to Ethiopians. That's because all three groups interbred with the local population. But, crucially, all three groups will also show genetic similarities with each other, despite being isolated for hundreds of years, therefore pointing at a common past. This means Jews are a race, doofus.
Parker Thomas
>Can we solve it once and for all? No unless we remove anti christian jewish memes from existence >Is Christianity a psyop? No. Its religion, from philosophical point of view pretty much logical >Nietzsche He was self hateing fag with some strange polish fetish, I wouldn't take his as an authority >Was the apostle Paul a traitor? and perhaps was Jewish all along? You should read Acts. And read his letters. Here is exemples fot you: " Serving the Lord with all humility, and with tears, and temptations which befell me by the conspiracies of the Jews;" "For there are also many disobedient, vain talkers, and seducers: especially they who are of the circumcision"
John Reed
>There is no logical reason for me to be here. There is no logical reason anything needs to exist. You were brought into this world to be tested to see if you can overcome it. You inherited your parents lot of being condemned in this cruel world until you die because the human race has disobeyed God. If you cling to God, seek him and accept Jesus and not be like the people of the world; but be an upright, kind, patient, non-self seeking moral person then you will be granted the chance to live again but this time with God. Where there will be no trouble, pain, worry or anger ever again in a new world redeemed by the creator who made that energy of life that animates your body.
Kevin Carter
So your race isnt pure?
must suck man. Sorry you will never have a TRUE identity, your religion is the strings woven frantically together by your priest in desperate hopes that one day you will have a identity. That day will never come.
Connor Morris
>Just about what your silly religion deserves. And you think you Jews are innocent? Why did the holocaust happen to your people? Who gave Hitler the authority to rule over Germany? Surely it was God wasn't it.
Noah Nguyen
if i study the torah and belive in it. what are the steps i need to become a jew? i listened to a rabbi in the radio and that made total sense to me. can i join the club ? im circumcised. Is it possible to become a jew or will i die a goyim ?
Hunter Robinson
Keep shifting those goalposts, son. Maybe one day your sham religion could achieve a spiritual basis that could unite a people that's been spread across three different continents in a time before the invention of print. Maybe then christianity could compare to what Judaism was 2,000 years ago. It's the only religion derived from the word of God himself - to have held a race of people together despite genetic and geographic disparities.
The problem of Amalek's existence was solved in the Talmud centuries ago, dude. Look it up.
Jaxon Thompson
Jesus was the manifestation of the plasmate - that is to say the Logos or Sophia sealed up as living information (a meme) at Chernoboskion and possibly Qumran until 1945. The plasmate took the form of a living girl, who may have been a secret daughter of David Bowie - in 1976, who then died in 1978 because it was not yet the appointed time.
She may, however, have already been born again, however, in the 2000s at the dawn of the internet. By this point memetics was sufficiently advanced to allow for her arrival in to the Dead Universe again. She takes the form (or will take the form if she has not already been born) of a Living Meme. See: Serial Experiments Lain.
David Bowie's final album, Blackstar, particularly the titular song, was about this coming savior.
Brayden Martinez
The fact that many atheists can be converted by using Acid, Shrooms, Benadryl and a bible it would seem to be a complex psyop.
It can be argued that Nietzsche's critique of paul was a way to show "ubermensch" that christianity can be used as a tool to enslave people and bend them to your will to power.
Look into how Gnosticism became Heresy, christian history from 100AD-300AD, then the protestant reformation, then look into the history of Buddhism. This guy basically gets it, communion with inter-dimensional angels is possible and actually commonplace
Kevin White
Give us shekels goyim. Yea, good goy. Gib us more and you'll go to heaven.
Anthony Rodriguez
Yet if im not mistaken, the bible is the most copied and sold book in the world. There are over 90 million christians in china, alone.
If your religion was superior to Christianity, it would dominate all around the world, and for the very reason that it DOESN'T, your conniving skills of deception, and deceit are the only reason you have legitimate power in this world, Not by divine right, just pure experience of fucking people over for nearly 3 millenium.
Jace Hill
>The spread of degeneracy is tied to the abandonment of Christian teaching >much of anti-Jewish sentiment extends from Christianity >much of modern Judaism is made to be set against Christianity >much of Jewish culture is anti-Christian, to the point of refusing to draw fucking plus signs >Jesus is a hypostatic union >God is universal
You tell me.
Parts of Christian imagery and such are anti-roman in nature but applicable to a larger concepts as well. The cross, for instance, was an intimidation tool of Roman power. The Christian cross symbol represents the power of God over the power of man with the cross as the symbol because of Jesus.
Nietzsche is not a good source for accurate examination of Christianity.
Liam Phillips
Go look at papal decrees and you tell me if saying don't kill kikes till we can understand what the fuck are these kikes as subversive.
Christianity is the only thing that has fought the Jew.
>it's nords >it's meds >it's christians >it's atheists >it's capitalists >it's socialists >it's fascists >it's rich people >it's poor people >it's communists >it's liberals >it's conservatives >it's short people >it's tall people >it's whateverthefuckism >it's whateverthefuck arbituary trait >It's white people they all attack one thing, the white race.
Any society devoid of religion is intrinsically materialistic and there will deceive themselves into thinking that only thing to do is buy, consume, repeat.
Sounds like a good marketing scheme no?
David Powell
Not true at all. Atheism doesn't necessarily lead neither to nihilism nor materialism. Take Czech as an example as it's 95% atheist country.
Daniel Perry
>If your religion was superior to Christianity, it would dominate all around the world I already agreed with you that the mentally feeble and the degenerates are far more likely to turn to christianity and heroin than they are to turn to the One True Religion. The same people who would take christianity over Judaism would also rather read Harry Potter over Solzhenitsyn. Obviously, the degenerates are far more numerous than the Saved. We have no disagreement there.
Kayden Russell
Then why do you call us cattle? Christians dont have a word for non-Christians.
Why do you hate us? Because there can only be one winner. We both know that. I guess only time will tell. The only true testament, In my honest opinion....is time.
Juan Walker
Obligitory mention of Nietzsche becoming a psychotic syphilitic invalid for the last years of his life
Lots of Christians seem to have a hard time accepting that they are a branch off the Jewish spiritual tradition. They have to accept that the Old Testament is the infallible word of god and the New Testament is the holy hand waving that exempts them from lots of Jewish law.
But the good news is that there is a clear path to spiritual salvation, and Schlomo... it's through Jesus.
Jordan Cruz
Christianity is an easier ticked off this gay shitty world.
Wyatt Wood
makes ya think doesn't it?
Evan Lee
>I prayed to God for shit and didn't get it, so there is no God God don't do requests nigga. You're here to praise the Lord, now get on with it.
Isaiah Jackson
My religion is the Catholic Church and God, fuck off kike, nothing else, Christianity is about faith in God not kike scriptures.
Ryder Clark
Christianity is the only reasonable religious choice for the traditional European man. Christ was killed by the Jews after driving them out of the temple and giving the Goyim Chosen status. He is hated by the Christ-killers.
Also >C.E. What the fuck is this gay shit nigger?
Chase Morgan
>great economy >no shitskins infiltrating the country >values traditions Also I think reigning party is pretty Christian. Nice try though.
Most people are weak minded. That means they are dumb enough to fall for your tricks. The fucking whole world is corrupted by proto-judaism. Now gas yourself you filthy lying kike
Connor Hall
>Gnosticism
If you want to go for that senpai, be my guest, but you should check out the Catholic church. Or the church of your fathers, ultimately your ancestors were probably Catholic before the Reformation. Either way, it's A.D. senpai, don't use that politically correct shit.
Leo Stewart
Dumb retarded idiot, every human in history believed in God, the differences were theology and structure, or theology and structure lies with the Roman Church not with Kikes or kike scripture.
Jose Clark
> Not sure if troll.
I'll answer anyway.
The specific phrasing was that I'd rather not play along. Not satire, not asking for "proof" - I didn't care at the time. This entire mess is pointless from my perspective, afterlife - heaven/hell - or not.
The ultimate implication here is that "god" is pointless. If he existed, his existence would be just as pointless as mine.
Theism is really something that disproves itself to anyone willing to spend some time thinking about it.
To drive this home, an omnipotent being could:
> Erase all memory of my existence in others > Replace me with someone else > Turn me into an emotionless automaton proxy that carries out my already-predicted life (am I not such already?)
> ... or basically anything you can think of, if you decide to put your mind to it.
So, since I'm still here, it seems that I'm either a plaything for a sadistic super-being, or its all much simpler to explain as an being an element of unfeeling reaction at the largest scale.
Cooper Brooks
The LORD is not the JEWS, the LORD is the LORD not a pagan Jew God.
>He claimed that it may have been deliberately propagated as a subversive religion (a "psychological warfare weapon" or what some would call a "mimetic virus") within the Roman Empire by the Apostle Paul as a form of covert revenge for the Roman destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple during the Jewish War.
did Nietzsche really say that?
i doubt he did, but if he did that is mind bogglingly retarded
Isaac Collins
There is nothing Jews hate more than Christ. This fact alone invalidates your post.
Jose Fisher
You misunderstood my post. I wasn't talking about christianity but about marxism and jewish cultural influence in the modern world.
Jason Diaz
This guy gets it, the Jews rebel against Logos and have been damned.
Sebastian Davis
We do what is just for our people that God has created, we do what God has created us to do, to fight for and die for our race and people as well as justice.
If you are actually white Christianity is not the religion of your ancestors. They were pagans. Christianity is a middle eastern religion. You idiots worship a Jewish god.
Mason Richardson
Every human has had belief in God, God does not belong to kikes, our God the Christian God is True and we are True and thus we shall achieve victory..
"pagans" had faith in God, they had a different theology and structure, the Catholic Church is our structure and theology.
Camden Edwards
So if you oppose the Catholic religion tell me what of it's structure, theology and so on are you against and what structure and theology do you want?
Pagans and Catholics both had faith in God, pagans converted to Catholic traditions, order and structure, they didn't convert to "our" God, they knew God but they didn't know how to worship him.
It does if you're honest and follow the thought process through to the end.
If the universe ultimately ends in heat death, who gives a shit what you do now?? We all end up in the same place.
Aaron Rodriguez
Teaches/programs an individual how to obey authority. Directly or indirectly. So many of our view are fashioned/inspired by at least one the three Abrahamic religions. Doesn't matter if you claim you're a nonbeliever or not, you still obey your gov. This is low level programing. Basically machine language.
Benjamin Cooper
I don't blame you for not wanting to see the truth because you've been indoctrinated since you were a small child, your ancestors were conquered by Catholics and now you defend the Catholic church? I'm not a religious person at all. I'm just telling you a fact which is Christianity is not a religion native to your family's homeland or bloodline, it is a foreign religion pushed upon your people which you still follow.
