Venezuela General - /vg/ Make Venezuela Great Again

are they commies tho?

also is SOS Venezuela legit?

p.s.: Br_user, i was talking about the druglords, not FARC.

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wsj.com/articles/venezuelan-officials-suspected-of-turning-country-into-global-cocaine-hub-1431977784
youtube.com/watch?v=ugGxdkEGLxM
cnnespanol.cnn.com/2017/01/09/asamblea-nacional-de-venezuela-declara-abandono-de-cargo-por-parte-de-nicolas-maduro/
tradingeconomics.com/venezuela/personal-income-tax-rate
theguardian.com/world/2002/apr/21/usa.venezuela
williamblum.org/chapters/freeing-the-world-to-death/us-coup-against-hugo-chavez-of-venezuela-2002
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_sector
hdr.undp.org/en/countries/profiles/VEN
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Venezuela needs to kill all socialists.
Also Venezuelan women are the hottest on the planet.

Venezuela has some hot women but also a lot of ugly women

What can you tell me about Tareck el Aissami? The wall st. journal pins him as Maduro's successor in case of a recall, is this the case?
Is this dude a commie lackey like his boss?
How likely is a recall to happen and win?

wtf? the VP gets the job if the president is recalled? shouldn't they have a new election? if anything he'd be the interim president while the new one isn't elected

Just another commie, this one i think is more evil than maduro but less stupid, He stole a lot of money like a good commie over the years as governor and was in a futbol team

wikipedia says he is literally very close to terrorist groups, sending them money and importing terrorist muslims to latin america

WTF
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I hate these fucking leftist cunts around me

The continent is already shit and they're always trying to make it worse REEEE

>Only south american people know the happiness that is to watch this episode

wsj.com/articles/venezuelan-officials-suspected-of-turning-country-into-global-cocaine-hub-1431977784

The entire Venezuela elite makes money selling cocaine.

I've seen tons of venezuelan protstitutes here, venezuelans come here thinking they can get a job. But they can only really work informal ones, no one is gonna risk a penalty for inferior worker force, and even paying amerindians is cheaper.

Where are you dutch bro that wanted to know more

I dont think natives follow any idiology

Most pure natives are homeless street beggars

they seem like they sleep in the streets and sell handmade stuff near traffic lights, by the articles i've read

we will had a new election if the president is deposed before the 10 of january

by deposed you mean recalled?

what if it's after jan 10? the VP stays? in this case the recall is pretty shitty desu, the good part is getting to elect a new government

I want to send a care package to a venezuelan/pol/ bro. What do you guys need the most, and what is something I can send you, that is hard to find there?

recalled or if he die, overthrown, etc

If the recall happens after jan 10, the VP will be president.

The thing with the recall is that the opposition coalition started the process long after they should've. The process had to begun since jan 10 of 2016 but the opposition didn't wanted to depose Maduro because it would've be worst if any of those opposition politican were elected president because it means they have to put in risk their popularity putting in march hard economic politics that would have ended in more hunger and inestability in the country. That's why everybody hates the opposition now.

if you send stuff through mail, it will be confiscated and sold by militaries. It's better if you send money in btc

We need everything but mostly food.

what a bunch of cucks. Why are they so cucked?

Reminds me of PSDB our """opposition""' fuckers who wanted to "let it bleed until 2018" instead of impeaching Dilma before we pressured them with protests.

"""social democrats""" are cancer as opposition to bolivarian socialists

are you running to colombia or something, mate? Or are you waiting to see wtf happens next?

I guess the obesity rates are low, at least?

DO NOT send stuff to Venezuelans, specially not money like that other guy told you, if you want to help contact a charity or some shit, if you give money to a Sup Forumstard he's probably scamming you and wants the money for videogames

Did the Dominicans destroyed Venezuela?

>he's probably scamming you and wants the money for videogames
You'd think someone going that far could just download them illegally, couldn't he?

I've heard Venezuelans say here that it's not worth fighting over. It's a shit country, it's always been shit, and if they could chose they'd rather leave the country then fight.

I stay because I'm sure everything will be better soon

Venezuela is shit but it's because its politician and those people in charge aren't going to stay forever.

He could but then you cant play online

I appreciate your will to live, stay safe. Maduro is really fucking shit up, if he just admitted that the country is in a crisis, foreign charitable organizations could actually help you.

I don't know man, Chavez and people like him have been running the country for quite a while now.

do you still have a job?

is you get rid of maduro and his buddies you'll still need to clean up the bureaucracy, fix the army to get rid of loyalists or curb their power, change the laws they changed so you have proper checks and balances again, fix the supreme court, etc

hell, brazilian is still not as bad as venezuela but I can't see how we'd fix everything in less than 10 years, it'll probably take more for you guys

They are right, Venezuela is a great country with really shitty people. Its not worth fighting when most of the people are scum

when you barely have toilet paper, not being able to play online shouldn't be your biggest concern

Nice meme t. Alberto Barbosa

is tehre any decent party in venezuela or only cucks and commies?

>make Venezuela Great Again

But Venezuela was never great

In fact it was completely and utterly irrelevant, just another US puppet, before Chavez changed things

First thing Chavez did was bring in muslims.

I hate these fucking people.

Venezuelans need to nut the fuck up and start killing commies.

T.my mom was a VZ cutie that married American.

So how long until even the middle class starts starving?

Oil price is failing again.

>First thing Chavez did was bring in muslims.
lel what

proofs?

this, how bad is the food crisis exactly venezuelabros? What kind of stuff is available now? Are you still waiting in lines for hours?

Pablo here. All those ((((bad news))) you got came from the globalist capitalist imperialist media.

Stop with the lies, everything is ok in Venezuela. None of you really know what's happening.

I guess the people coming over the border and saying it is complete mad-max tier shit in Venezuela are all CIA agents then?

Everything Spain touches goes to shit.

Prove me wrong.

this

Is this mess fixable?
Was Venezuela ever great?

What are the odds of a civil war? I heard some generals discuss a coup (as in publicly, saying what WOULD happen if one of them went rogue and shit), and they said its unlikely because, as much as Maduro is hated, a military government would be hated more. What are the odds of a popular revolt instead?

Pablo Iglesias, Lentamente aléjate del teclado.

To be honest if you just give him money it will be better, you can find anything if you pay a high price for it.

Socialists be like "hurr durr Venezuela isn't real socialism"
Venezuelan women are great, don't know if anything else about the country is great. Only been there once.

There's just something about leftism(collectivism) that makes people addicted to self-harm.

>on economics
Rob from those who overachieve, give to those who 'need' aka those who underachieve.

>on immigration
Import whatever people the rest of the world hates the most, because those are the ones in need.

>on race/class/gender issues
Punish those who need the least, to equalize them with those who need more. Now everyone has unmet needs.

>on laws/morality/etc
Ram a biblical dick down the throats of all law-abiding people at all times, yet degeneracy thrives regardless. Because needs.

>on foreign policy
Donate until it hurts for the sake of needy nations; eternal war with prosperous nations.
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Collectivism is the eternal worship of needs and the permanent abandonment of fulfillment.

At least your crisis has upsides too. I bet she's one of the 20% female immigrants that entered our country over the past years

youtube.com/watch?v=ugGxdkEGLxM

First unwritten rule of 3rd world countries: all the real rules are unwritten.

Second unwritten rule of 3rd world countries: the hotter women get, the more they flock to places full of foreigners. You're still playing Russian roulette.

The odds are really low, Coup d'état could happen in some years
>Is this mess fixable?
No
>Was Venezuela ever great?
From 1960 to 1980 was a great period for Venezuela

Okay so what will your (white) elite do now? Migrate?

Didn't date any, probably won't either. They all want to get out of their shithole country, don't really blame them but that's just what they want

>The odds are really low, Coup d'état could happen in some years

Important facet of diplomacy/politics which casuals never understand. When people say "destabilize," they mean "change the government into something that's actually different."

Hungry countries have a high risk of getting destabilize'd.

What countries in South America are thriving? Chile, Paraguay, maybe peru?

Why do you guys speak spanish like your so tired?

What the hell is going on?

>Okay so what will your (white) elite do now? Migrate?
They have been doing it for years. I am waiting for my grade, and then I could stay with my sister in Canada or with my brother in Panama for some months.
>Important facet of diplomacy/politics which casuals never understand. When people say "destabilize," they mean "change the government into something that's actually different."
It will never happen, the last time that Venezuela tried something differente was in 1992, and thanks to that Chavez is president that is more of the same shit. Also the biggest oposition party offer the same things that curent government offers
What do you mean?

By the way to anyone talking about sending care packages, don't, it's the same issue they have in African countries, food gets taken by officials at customs and sold at the black market. If you know someone personally here the easiest thing you can do is to send Amazon gift cards codes. These can sold for bfs locally and people buy unregulated food with that.

>Amazon gift cards
If you really want to colaborate with them send bitcoins, they are easy to sell here.

KYS leftie SCUm.

I legit like the Lebanese migrants we have here though. But they have been here for decades, now they all leaving.

>we're going to work fields at gunpoint then go home to empty pantries forever
Human history dictates otherwise.

Lucky.
>tfw got nobody outside and always been poor
I wanna leave this first trimester though.

cnnespanol.cnn.com/2017/01/09/asamblea-nacional-de-venezuela-declara-abandono-de-cargo-por-parte-de-nicolas-maduro/

Maduro BTFO

How long has the North Korea regime survived? Or Cuba. They may collapse eventually but... the damage will be there forever, communist experiments are like a cancer that never goes away.

3 words
Asamble en desacato.
What could happen is that some other guy takes the power but the same politics will be implemented just under another name

>Venezuelans asking for gift cards and other handouts

This is why this country is doomed

They should send you some dignity instead of money and "care packages", you pieces of shit

Venezuela isn't socialist. It has private businesses that are not owned by the workers in spades. It has less government owned businesses than Norway or Denmark and no one calls the communist. Stop spreading lies. Plus Venezuela collapsed because of oil prices.

Venezuela isn't socialist. See:

Go away bernie

Bernie isn't socialist either. Socialism is when the workers or the government own all the means of production. Look it up. Plus Bolivia has implemented similar policies to Venezuela and it isn't failing. Its all about the oil prices.

>Implements every plank that is there is the communist manifiesto to describe a socialist state
>Nah guise not socialist

Shut the fuck up.

I'm just telling them the proper way. Some people got friends and family here.

>wow this one photo proves everything

>collectivize ALL means of production and give the workers control over there workplace
>nationalize some stuff lol

That was not the purpose of the photo though. You are just retarded and need to kys. You don't know shit about the history of this country.

>Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes
>Abolition of all rights of inheritance
>Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly
>Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State
>Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture
>Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country

Yeah, no, none of these have been fully implemented. Even the income tax isn't a "heavy progressive or graduated income tax."

tradingeconomics.com/venezuela/personal-income-tax-rate

>before Chavez changed things
Wow he changed things so much, he made Venezuela even more irrelevant!

>Muh means of productions s to the workers
Literal socialists meme, Marx describes with details what needs to be done for the pre-communism state. Thanks has been done here. Now leave and drink bleach.

"irrelevant" enough to catch the attention of America, so much so that they tried to depose him in a coup

theguardian.com/world/2002/apr/21/usa.venezuela
williamblum.org/chapters/freeing-the-world-to-death/us-coup-against-hugo-chavez-of-venezuela-2002

if he was that irrelevant, why bother?

>be one of the reasons why Venezuela is a complete shithole
>b-b-but there was a coup!

Thread is living proof your dumbass is disconnected with reality in a country you never lived in

Read das kapital then come back. Norway has a bigger public sector than Venezuela. The reason its falling apart is because its only export is oil and the oil prices crash. I sure you blame every crash under capitalism on capitalism and not some other outside force.

Kill yourself leftypol you have no place in this board. Even not implementing these things to the full extent guarantees that your country will collapse, why? Because Marx was an jobless idiot living centuries ago that though industrialization was the end of human advacement, for some bad luck a bunch of idiots decided to make a cult around every shitty thing he wrote and that's how you got here.

KYS.

>Norway has a bigger public sector than Venezuela
Holy shit you are legit retarded.

>be one of the reasons why Venezuela is a complete shithole
It was a shithole before Chavez. Hence why he was voted in comfortably with a clear majority and the PSUV was popular for many years.

He was targeted by the US for threatening their interests

So you admit Venezuela isn't socialist?

>Because Marx was an jobless
He worked as a journalist, author, translator etc.

>make oil your only staple export because Chavez was a fucking dumbass
>be surprised it's falling apart years later

>do a coup
>prevent it
>years later you make it become an even bigger shit hole
wediditpatrickwesavedthecity.jpg

>Economy of Norway
>public sector 32.8%
>Venezuela
>public sector 20.1%
source en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_sector

More like a self coup to cleanse PDVSA and the military branches. Sure buddy keep believing state sponsored propaganda "the revolution will not be televised" that's usually the only thing leftists foreigners think they know about the country and believe they got the whole history on my country figured out

It was there only export before Chavez.

And yet he fucked that up even more

Good job senpai

but you're just plain fucking wrong.

hdr.undp.org/en/countries/profiles/VEN

Venezuela's HDI is much better than it was pre Chavez

>a fucking .1 percent jump

lmao k

I don't claim to know the entire history of your country.

False. Main export.
>Believing government statistics
>Percentage is based on employment
>Ignores companies owned by the socialist party members
>Ignores that main industries as a whole are nationalized

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