The man in the high castle

Is this show red-pilled or straight up propoganda made by (((them)))

Its just a typical shitty tv show with a cool atmoshpere. season 2 is only about finding a guy and peoples relationships.

nuke the japs now

Pretty Redpilled in the sense that Nazis are portrayed as normal people instead of cartoon villains. Himmler and Hitler are the reasonable Nazi's of the story lel.

The only real 'evil' thing about the Nazi's is the eugenics stuff which is kind of misportrayed since Goebbels was disabled as well so I doubt Germany would implement that shit everywhere.

Absolute cultural marxist propaganda tier

Neither, really. The most interesting characters are the Nazi's and Japs and they are made to be very human rather than cartoonish villains typical of (((TV))). The setting is interesting but the main characters are awful and the first season spends too long teasing you.

Still, a show that manages to have normies cheering for Hitler by the end of the first season has accomplished something interesting at least.

complete utter propaganda, anyone national socalist who would support such degeneracy does not fully understand national socalism and should stop making our job harder.

>N-N-Nashunul sochulism

You aren't even a National Socialist, you fat fuck. You will never win with your snobby attitude. All of the hard work has been done by the Alt-Right, while stormkikes have failed.

Wouldn't say redpilled, but it does a good job of avoiding the typical angle where the guys fighting for freedom are the de facto good guys.

It portrays japs as hypocritical tyrants, and the resistance as a bunch of nostalgic violent maniacs, pretty much the only blacks betray their ideals for some cash, and Nazi America is shown as a clean paradise where nobody locked their doors.

The show plays with your notions of good and bad.

It reminds me of the scene in inglorious basterds when they they ask the captured Nazi what he got the medal for, his response being "bravery".

first season is reasonably interesting. Kinda bring. Main characters are okay. The main couple is kind of lame. The main Nazi umberfrawkinfurer or whatever his title is is the best thing about the show.

Bit of both. Its fuckin weird. Its only bluepilled by default because the shows creator is a jew.

I actually like the dynamic Smith and his wife have going on. Finally a traditional couple on TV where husband and wife actually love and respect each other, and have their family as their utmost priority. But they had to be nazis: what is Hollywood trying to tell me?

Trust me no one understands national socialism better then me. Having a Fap folder full of 1930s photos and bitching about people online does not make a National Socialist faggot. I don't need to win people over retard. Anyone living in reality would know 4th Reich is improbable for now. We have a long time to wait and winning people over for now is irrelevant Btfo and read mein kamfp or learn German like a real National Socialist workers party member.

The contrast between the title Obergruppenfuhrer and the laughably generic name John Smith was great.

Yeah that was the thing that threw me off, too. Like, I totally get that they would have had a special breeding program of specifically selected parents to introduce a completely "pure" line into the generations, but to retroactively say that everyone would immediately undergo testing and one of the highest ranking nazi officials in America would be worried about his son being euthanized was just way, way off. IMHO, at least. Particularly doing it after they showed Hitler with the shakes and in poor health, etc. Obviously this is to give the aforementioned nazi justification to do what he did and, I'm assuming, they're setting him up to join the resistance, but it just seemed lazy writing.

To be fair, the euthanasia program in Germany was only for those that were literally beyond any chance of contributing to society in a net positive manner. The program proscribed in Man in the High Castle (MINTHC) is vastly stricter than anything the Nazi's actually had. Those kinds of programs were strictly relegated to insane asylums and didn't touch disabled people in general who either had means, could still positively contribute in some fashion, and/or had previously contributed in a positive fashion. If you suddenly developed Parkinson's you most likely weren't at risk of any such actions by the state. Unless, of course, you were a serial pedophile or some equally undesirable degenerate.

it's probably created in a propagandized way, but it's still paradise while the nip america is a shithole, good series

Can we stop the Hollywood shilling yet on this board for this show? We're not going to watch it you turbo-jew.

this thread is for countries that weren't occupied by the Nazis in reality.

Unintentional red pills

It is whatever you are when you watch it. Nazi-bros see the glory of what could have been, and mudblood terrorists blowing shit up for no gain. Libs see ebil Nazis oppressing the noble POC freedom fighters, and *gasp* gender roles!

They literally equate Father and Fuhrer in the commercials. This is straight out of the Frankfurt school.

And the guy is based af. I just wish there were more characters on TV like him.

Great show. But some parts of story is too amateur. They could have writen better events.

2nd season is better.

shit acting
shit writing
can't even make it to episode 2

pure garbage

This.

it is great
defo watch it

heil hitler

the first half of the first season is dogshit. stick with it because it gets radically better by season two.

Well, the main char is a huge cuck, the female is a "strong women"

So...

They accidentally made Nazis appealing as fuck

At least we managed to live in an upstanding white, Germanic society for a while. An impossible dream for burgers like yourself

all of the resistance characters are literal cucks. its a hidden red pill

being Latin slaves to Germanic masters is not the same as being a part of a Germanic society, my black haired friend.

that's not real nazism fuck face

The national socialists aren't portrayed as comic book villains.
There's no crime to be seen in natsoc territory apart from the rebellious movement, the cities are clean and people are polite.

Ironically the most obnoxious character of the show is a jew from the rebellion.

I heard that it wasn't too good.
Are you bongs just liking it because it's on Amazon and you have a compulsion to support Clarkson, Hammond and May?

I got the part where the show implies that all handicapped people are set on fire at a hospital. Rolled my eyes and closed the window. Complete propaganda.

the man in the high castle is that world's version of Philip K Dick writing a story about the allies winning the war.

I think they tried to make it propaganda but failed miserably.

When they basically make the Nazi part of America seem comfy as fuck and a quintessential white society its probably meant to make people go "wow not so bad" but then when they go full "we gas the cripples on tuesdays" its probably meant to make the normies think "wow it is really an evil place deep down :(" but that evidently doesn't work.

The fact that the Japanese characters in the show treat the white characters like absolute shit is probably the most redpilled thing, since if anything it signals to the normies that maybe demographic displacement isn't great. Interestingly though, in the book the Japanese are portrayed as relatively nice to the seppos and are basically massive ameriboos, while the nazis are comicbook villains. However, in the book, Heydrich is actually the good guy.

In many ways I think the show is better than the book desu. The book created a really good setting but the story was pretty average and just reflective of PKD being a massive drug fucked degenerate, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep was a better story as a book imho

this....

the main woman character is like a literal jinx for the resistance...

she keeps ruining everything..

SPOILERS AHEAD///

She wasted all the money that her boyfriend risked his life to make in order to free the man she's cucking her boyfriend with...

She got her boyfriends family gassed.

how this frank guy can stand to even look at her, I'll never know...

I hate this woman...

>baiting me hard
What is Low Franconian?

Who cares, it's damn good.

>I totally get that they would have had a special breeding program
The real Nazi's had such a program, so it's not propaganda.

It's propaganda.
But it pretty accurately portrays what a Nazi civilization would look like.

>implying that Low Franconian is the dominant tongue in Belgium

Face it, you'll never be Germanic like Americans.

>implying most burgers aren't german

How could you not want to work under a guy like this?

Yeah, I know. My point was that it's ridiculous that this supposed Nazi eugenics program was A.) implemented immediately and B.) it's so comprehensive that the fucking senior group leader of the Nazi party in America has to worry about his kid being euthanized.

PKD actually wrote the story at random using the IChing

The Nazis also rolled back the euthanasia for disabled people in around 1940/41 I think - in the face of significant public protest about it.

Yeah. Those parts are trash, but it's such a comical and obvious slight that it didn't bother me. Instead, I liked seeing the Reich portrayed as effective. Wholesome communities and Volk.

And yes you're right. There are numerous cases of top Nazis getting exemptions for things. Even for being Jews. Hitler got an exception for a Jewish friend he was in prison with from Himmler to state he was non Jewish.

Smith would 100% be able to get an exemption for his son. Who probably wouldn't be killed anyway. Just maybe sterilised at most.

She isn't cucking Frank she has a kind soul. And also absolute waifu amterial

>Show your face when Frank Frink's sister and nephews were gassed.

That doesn't shock me

lol the entire south is beaners and nigs

The Japanese Chief Inspector, Obergruppenführer John Smith and Reinhard Heydrich were all great, the resistance is cringy as fuck though.

Wasted.

The first season followed the PKD novel pretty well, but with the common, modern drizzle of liberal SJW bullshit. The second season is literally made up fan fiction that goes beyond the novel's intent, kind of ruining the mystery and 'really makes you think' purpose of the original book.

when i read the book long ago i was left with the impression that PKD was trying to say 'the nazis werent all bad, we weren't all good, and if the axis had one, the world wouldnt end, it would have continued, and eventually balanced itself, always struggling for balance.

the 2nd season follows a girl main character and makes her into this critical focal point of multiple universes because shes 'such a good caring person' zzzzz


both seasons are worth watching solely for the germania, nazi new york, and japanese san fransico eye candy settings.

the set dressing is the best part of the show. top notch 'alternate reality'

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To anyone who has watched the entirety of this series, is it worth watching?

Do you recommend it?

I want to try it out but don't want to subject myself to pathetic attempts at trying to be edgy in TV form

It's decent. Even for stromfags who can wank off at all the Nazi Albert Speer architecture. Eg the volkshalle

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It absolutely worths to watch.

To add to this, I also think it's ridiculous to suggest (I admit, I'm not really familiar with the book) that the entire American society just is like, "Welp, we lost the war so I guess we're cool with euthanizing all these people we know and our kids and everything for the good of the party," like they seem to suggest in the church scene. There's old ass people in there. People who were in the God damn war. Like, they're not all just like, "Welp, we're into euthanization now."

Like everyone else has said, it's rare to find a show that at least tries to humanize or not completely portray other sides of history as insane. And there are parts of the show that do this. Then out of nowhere there are parts that go full, "MUH 6 MILLION(!)" and pull shit out of their ass and it's clearly a message to the viewer like, "in case you forgot, these people are true evil." Which pushes it into hack territory.

I don't know. It had potential. I just don't think it's too great.

Yeah I agree. Season 2 was amazing. The fact that Himmler and Hitler were actually the good guys in the end surprised me quite a bit. Also, Chief Inspector Kido & Smith are such amazing characters.

>Sup Forums alone has 20,000,000+ weekly visitors and growing exponentially
>Improbable

I'd say it's a lot closer than you might think. Within 30 years, possibly within 20, it will likely be possible.

Remember that the NSDAP took Germany from Weimar levels of complete and total degeneracy to gaining complete control of the government in only 10 years.

The resistance are the evil warmongers in the series you fuckwit

I'll give it a watch then, thanks.
I have a tendency to never watch a series again if the first episode is painfully bad, but I'll soldier on and finish the first season at least.

it's for-profit entertainment

Frank is a total tool and a massive idiot. Kido & Tagomi are the redpilled bros

kekked and checked

normies will go along with anything though
feminism, gay marriage, transpeople, islam
they change their beliefs on a dime to conform

Wasted get

this
but i picked it back up later and it wasnt so bad
apart from a couple of episodes

FUCKING WASTE OF NUMBERS
DIE YOU PIECE OF SHIT
REEEEEEEEEEEE

o fugg :D :DDD :DD

TOPKEK. Stupid kraut might have got himself in jail.

Himmler and Hitler arent actually good guys. Hitler is just a weak old man surrended with ambitious men.

First 3-4 episodes are boring. But it isnt just about nazis. It is actually about different thing. I wont say it due to spolier.

>racially pure, honorable people of high rank serving their people and societies
vs
>literal niggers, jews and muh freedumbs being scheming individualists

not a hard choice to make for a white man

Oh and there is a scene that Hitler convinces his assasin to kill himself. Yeah they show Hitler good.

What is Kek trying to tell us?
So many wasted digits in this thread

You have to remember the speech he gave in the end of season 1. He doesn't want a war with the Japanese

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It is not. The character in question is a traditional 50's American Father who serves the Nazi administration in New York. His title is literally fuhrer, and the character is also a father. Don't be retarded.

So he is a father and a fuhrer. Thats exactly what I said.

If you weren't aware, the Frankfurt school was primarily concerned with discovering the origins of fascism. They concluded the tendency towards fascism was in every authoritarian structure - first and foremost the nuclear family. Therefore, if you wanted to eliminate fascism then you should work to tear down the artificial power structures of society. This is precisely what the left is doing. By associating fatherhood with fascism they break down the very relationships which society is built upon. They do this for "liberation" but in reality it is only license and degeneracy.

It is. Second season is much much better, BTW, so sit through the first one. Characters aren't that great, sadly, as there is many of them, but the good ones are really, REALLY good. Ironically, the most interesting characters are the Nazis and Jap "antagonists", as they are made into real people with human relationships, problems, feelings, etc, so you sympathize and support them, even as they wear full SS attire and execute freedom fighters. And it isn't always "muh six million" either. From memory, a camp is mentioned to be nearby once, and a family gets gassed at one point, but its not really brought up much. It isn't full Sup Forums, but it even has some redpills on it, such as Nazi controlled America being a peaceful paradise where everyone is prosperous and there is virtually little crime, so people don't even lock their doors anymore. Would recommend.

Except it isn't, there are several characters who are fathers. Could it not be that its an interesting character instead, or that, just maybe, realistically such a man would have children?

quints of truth

It's not bad so far, but I fully expect the propaganda to hit hard at some point. If you stopped watching now you would come away thinking the Nazis were pretty cool, if harsh.

You believe this because you don't really understand fascism. It's not just racism and traditionalism.

It is the belief that violence is good - that war and struggle are cleansing, and necessary. It is the belief, for example, that the US should go to war with Mexico and take their land. Why? Because the destiny of strong nations is to conquer the weak. If you're a fascist you don't need any reason other than that. Millions of people, both American and Mexican, on the abattoir floor simply for some dirt and clay that isn't even productive.

You might be for that in principle, and you might even, maybe, still be for it in practice, but do you really think that even a fraction of those 20,000,000 unique visitors, of which only some are even American, want to go to war with Mexico for no other reason than, essentially, 'just because,' and for no actual gain? That this fragile Western society would be reforged in a crucible of war instead of merely shattered?

This is where you memepost about how fascism isn't inherently violent or aggressive because you don't understand what fascism is. You think fascism is just a watchword for fancy parades and right-wing values and it isn't. Fascism is fundamentally obsessed with violence for the sake of violence, because to a fascist violence itself is good.

Amazing show so far, just finished season 1.

1. The nazis somehow are loved by the people on the east coast?
2. The pacific states hate the Japanese and keep saying stuff like Japs, slanted eye yellow people lel
3. Seems like Japan are seen as the good guys as the Nazis want to flat out the pacific states.
4. People making a big deal about some films and how it can change the world, it can't.
5. Japanese people speaking English towards each other.
6. You do not make eye contact with the emperor


Overall is a great show, I like it not sure why people hate it but the idea its great. I like it how the Nazis came up with the concorde way before its initial flight with the French.

Heil Hitler!

It's really coincidental that this is so popular what with the rise in nationalism across the globe.

The crown Prince is not the emperor

It certainly can't be because of it's quality.

>You believe this because you don't really understand fascism. It's not just racism and traditionalism.
>It is the belief that violence is good - that war and struggle are cleansing, and necessary. It is the belief, for example, that the US should go to war with Mexico and take their land. Why? Because the destiny of strong nations is to conquer the weak. If you're a fascist you don't need any reason other than that. Millions of people, both American and Mexican, on the abattoir floor simply for some dirt and clay that isn't even productive.
>You might be for that in principle, and you might even, maybe, still be for it in practice, but do you really think that even a fraction of those 20,000,000 unique visitors, of which only some are even American, want to go to war with Mexico for no other reason than, essentially, 'just because,' and for no actual gain? That this fragile Western society would be reforged in a crucible of war instead of merely shattered?
>This is where you memepost about how fascism isn't inherently violent or aggressive because you don't understand what fascism is. You think fascism is just a watchword for fancy parades and right-wing values and it isn't. Fascism is fundamentally obsessed with violence for the sake of violence, because to a fascist violence itself is good.

any political ideology can be used to justify 'cleansing violence' fucking look at the USSR and our fucking 'democratic republic' of america.

dumb fuck.

Way to entirely miss the fucking point.

Fascism doesn't "justify" violence, fascism holds violence as inherently good and not requiring justification.

This differs from communism, for example, which sees violence as a bad thing that is evidence of a world of inequality and injustice, or liberal cosmopolitan values that see violence as a bad thing that results from infringing on rights and not meeting duties.

In a utopian communist society there is no violence.
In a utopian liberal society there is no violence.
In a utopian fascist society we are consumed by violence. The strong conquer the world and then engage in struggle internally through pseudo-violent means like, for example, eugenics. The world is divided into winners and losers - strong and weak - in a constant search for "self-perfection" and cleansing detritus and degeneracy.

Never post again you fucking moron.

None of the things you listed are bad desu

You're Russian though. You have a different culture to Amerifats and "the West". Fascism is alive and well in Russia - not in practice, but in spirit. When Russians say that they genuinely believe in things like that they have some credibility because, to some extent, you experience it in a way that westerners don't.

When Americans do they come off as pimpled little faggots roleplaying, because they have never experienced any of it and it would probably burst their fat-choked hearts if they ever did.

>'evil' thing about the Nazi's is the eugenics stuff which is kind of misportrayed since Goebbels was disabled as well so I doubt Germany would implement that shit everywhere.
You realise the Nazis did euthanise disabled people?

Eugenics ....implemented ONLY on TRUE Germanic people's , Americans were kept not so pure because they regarded them as ÜBERMENSCH ....loyal but expendable