Did I just accidentally troll this guy?

Did I just accidentally troll this guy?

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Are you the real DfP senpai?

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He's the Berniecuck.

This. I've been trying to expand my views and see if I can like trump and it seems like every time I talk to someone about it they get mad.

DfP trolled you

define democratic socialism

You had a perfect chance to red-pill a leftist who was opening his mind and all you could do was autistically spout ad-hominems

You are autistic. Please delete yourself.

Well, he is a commie so...I got zucc'd until tomorrow for a post on Clinton's FBI drops...baka

Ok

I can't tell what's more retarded your lack of argument and skill red pilling, or the fact you thought anyone would be even remotely interested in anything your dumb ass has to say.

Wait so you're the Bernie guy, not the Trump guy in those pics

I'll gladly explain why trump is the better option to an open minded leftist or anybody

Wait, OP is the commie?! Bawhahahahahaha, get dropped from a helicopter fag

>You had a perfect chance to red-pill a leftist who was opening his mind

He's only saying he's opening his mind, 99% of Bernouts are beyond any chance of redemption. That 1% who might get redpilled certainly doesn't say things like "Trump is.... not the brightest bulb", because that's an outright idiotic thing to say considering his accomplishments.

Please do. All memes and bullshit aside I just want to develop a better understanding without all this left media shit.

What is your biggest criticism/concern with Trump?

You would think with all that has been going on with the Dems flip-flopping on what they claim are facts (said they couldn't rig elections -> Russians can for some bs reason; the huge DNC leaks and scandal; Clinton double; etc) that Trump doing what literally every politician has done since Lincoln started doing it (negotiating on platform to satisfy the party) would literally get overlooked. His actions didn't (although he didn't change his platform a whole lot from the start), but every other politician has. That's what irks me the most.

Well shit, KEK is with him?! What does that mean, are we supposed to red pill him?

Besides, Trump probably learned a whole lot ON the campaign trail as well. And yes, he exaggerates and has an accent that makes some words sound weird (not his fault for idiots misunderstanding him), but he literally got more facts on the issues to start popping up in the past year than all the politicians running for Presidency together have done since JFK. Even then, JFK didn't do a whole lot other than push the Space Race, avert the Cuban Missile Crisis, AND was trying to audit the Fed.

disdain for plebs is a faggot jew.

Read some Thomas Sowell.
Particularly his book "Black Rednecks and White Liberals"
That's a good entry point without drowning you in extremism and memes.

>guy talks to you
>you respond
lelelel i totally trolled him guys

I will actually look into this. Thank you.

I agree with you that Trump acts like a moron and weasels out his way out of shit. Most drumpfkins won't admit this, and for good reason, it typically does no good to admit weaknesses like that, at least in this political environment where they'll rip apart every little thing.

Whether or not trump is actually dumb or actually believes anything he says, I don't care, I care about what he is doing.

Something I always say that tends to shock leftists is that if he got into office and did nothing but say on his ass for four years I'd be happy and anything beyond that is a bonus.

I feel that globalist forces are pushing us in a dark direction and he's basically a rock being thrown in between the cogs and gears of their machine. He won't hold long but every delay is good. My number one issue is not allowing globalism to progress and curbing further schemes of the establishment.

As for his policy I think we should have strong borders even if it's just symbolic.
We should have protectionist measures in place.
We should renegotiate deals around the world.

But again those are bonuses. What I really care about is curbing the democratic agenda.

As a fascist I don't think socialism is the problem, I think it's socialism in a corrupt state which will inevitably lead to a communist like situation.

You looked like a total douchebag and an intellectual retard spouting ad-homs instead of having a discussion.

You talk like a fag and your shit's all tarded. Go away communist.

Your shits all fucked up and you talk like a fag.

>bernie still exists

I can understand that, and it's actually a good point I think. I need to read into globalism, I'm not too confident in my understanding of it.

Not going to lie, the word fascist puts me on edge, but I'm not sure if that's just social conditioning.

I mean I was trying to have a discussion. Did it really seem pompous? It certainly wasn't my intent.

Put simply, it isn't about Trump.

It is about the shift in ideology that he represents.

This was a Nationalism vs Globalism election.

That is an election between liberty and slavery. Cultural and racial diversity vs a global, singular racial and cultural identity of either islamic or nihilistic consumerism (depending on who wins the coming conflicts).

Basically Trump represents the people, while everyone else was the global elites.

The best path for a people's happiness is a culture of nationalist identity and unity.

Honour your ancestors and the history of your people and your nation. Don't sell out to the global banking elites, regardless of how virtuous their subterfuge may sound. It's a sham and they know it.

He never attacked his ad-hominem

I can dig this.

It just would have been nice if we had someone who stood for the same things but was a little more capable personally I think. As it stands Trump is more of an idea than an individual. I think it's clicking now.

It took me awhile to arrive at fascist, and I was put off by it because I associated it with autistic skinhead larpers

I think we need a new word for it, but fascism sums it up

Fascism I believe is the only economically, socially and politically sustainable system.

A mixed economy is necessary for reasons I could get into but I'll simplify it as capitalism maximizes efficiency whereas socialism can boost utility and curb some market failures. In short socialism alone would starve itself to death and capitalism will eat itself alive.

Socially, racialism and strong morality are just in line with human nature and a cohesive society. People are tribalistic and it would take a fundamental rewiring to transcend that.

Politically a strong government that is heavily checked by strict law is necessary for order and securing true sustainability.

You associate fascism with Hitler or edgy teenagers, but when you break it down into its actual points I think it becomes more palatable.

As for globalism, it's quite simply just run people who want one, dumb easily controllable population to manipulate and rule over. Imagine if the USSR had no competition from the US. Imagine a 1984 scenario in which the thought of an alternative dies off and people are stuck with one option. That's their endgame, basically world domination.

Fascism stops this with the moral component, valuing something transcendent rather than power or control will keep it from spiraling in the wrong direction.

youre just a faggot and wasted a chance to set some cuck right

Disdain for Plebs page is an circle jerk by admission. You're not going to get a discussion there.

What is this transcendent?

You fucked it up.

Interesting. You do make it sound more palatable.

Alright so globalism is pretty much as I thought then.

I definitely think that fascism gets a bad wrap considering that it is associated with histories villains, yeah. I will have to do more reading into it but that't not a bad starting point.

The only point I could contest is the idea of racialism, to me, in an ideal system, race would have no relevance, only personal ability/etc.

> > in kikebook

You trolled yourself, pleb.

Holy shit. Dude I like your page. Cool seeing you here.

Noice.

Everybody thinks I'm Disdain for Plebs. I was only talking to Disdain for Plebs.

Oh youre the BernVictim? Fuck off man haha

jesus christ stop trying to greentext on kikebook to look edgy

On the fascism/villains point, I'll ask why is it that it's more palatable to say you're a communist nowadays than it is to be a nazi when communism resulted in the deaths of approximately 96 million people and fascism resulted in about a quarter of that?
You could say both are evil perhaps but I wouldn't agree, I'd say they were iterations of ideologies that took violent turns. We can seek peaceful alternatives for similar or more evolved ideologies in the future.

Look into race and you'll find that most of what you thought was true wasn't. Genetics play a larger role than you might think, and racialism is the only path conducive to human nature and how humans practically and realistically will behave regardless of what you might think.

I could have been a rhetorical prick here and tried to "redpill" you, but I'll leave you to your own opinions. Feel free to look deeper into the stuff, it's interesting and it ultimately changed how I viewed the world.

An argument against fascism:
Human corruption

There is nothing that stops this system from being manipulated by a corrupt man. Was it not the virtue of the common man that was going to save communism? Or the ideals of true Comrads that would stop a leader from over stepping his bounds?

How are fascist values any different? What will stop human nature from taking its natural course?

GET IN HERE KEKS

you trolled yourself you dumb faggot. YOU were the one that got emotional and revealed that you are a manchild who cannot control his emotions

>all these retards thinking OP is Disdain for Plebs.

Respect.

I definitely will be reading into more of this in the future. I'm sure that like you said, more evolved systems would be possible and a few events and wars are no reason to dismiss those ideas.

As for genetics and racialism, that one does sit wrong with me, but that doesn't mean I won't read about it either. You are entitled to your views, as me with mine, either way, thank you for your words, they have helped broaden my perspective a little bit. Cheers.

A government that follows the law. It would be segmented with divided power structures that have checks and balances and have an unchangeable set off rules. Any branch that oversteps its bounds will broken with an iron fist and rebuilt. People will be raised with a clear set of values by means of institutions and the family.

There's a Plato quote relevant to his idea of philosopher kings that goes something like "only those that know how to obey can rule". The ruling class will need to be selected for obedience to the law more than the rest already do.

It keeps happening.

Cheers friend. By the way I used to be like you. I was a leftist and thought the genetics/race stuff was ridiculous. Gradually I came around, so you never know where you might end up. It creeps on you and next thing you know your world view is reversed.

Yeah, I could see it. I keep myself open to all possibilities. The moment that your world view is set in stone is the moment you fucked up imo.

He seemed like a decent guy really. Wasted opportunity to talk some sense into him.

A true cuck would have sperged out after the comments OP sent, he genuinely seemed curious while obviously brainwashed.

wow, so fucking autistic!

>Salutations friend.

Well, firstly, you take Trump acting like a clown for him being stupid.
You simply can't manage a presidential campaign, win, as well as run real estate worldwide and be an idiot. Think about it, these are obviously complex tasks.

Keep in mind most people in this thread initially assumed you were the "disdain for pebs" guy.

-6 million

Oy vey!

Yeah I've pretty much given up on most of the posts in here.

I hate that spastic. He's an obnoxious mongoloid who cant debate for shit, excessively swears during debates and doesn't understand political ideologies. He has an inferiority complex which he tries to make up for with MUH MURICA NUMBER 1.
He is a certified cunt.

This. Of course he's not going to become redpilled overnight but if you hit them with a wall of common sense and logic, that plants the first seed and they start seeing things a little differently. After a while they might start to realise how full of shit their fellow commies are, start resenting them and soon enough they'll realise how dumb their views are.

OP is a fucking idiot and is gay.

Oops I forced the race-pill on you before you were ready

It's simple, the west desperately needs to uncuck itself. Is Trump perfect? No, he isn't. He is bold, and brash, and says what he thinks and doesn't apologize for it which is exactly what we need. He doesn't equivocate like all the other politicians, he isn't politically correct. Where other politicians will dance around issues because they might lose votes if they take a stand Trump asks "Why isn't anyone doing anything about all the black crime?".

Trump is the only option if you want America to be fixed, every other politician would just paper over the cracks and pretend everything is fine while western civilization continues to deteriorate from left wing subversion

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OP is the Bernie supporter you fucking idiot

Yeah you trolled him you fucking pleb.

You blacked out your name like no one here will be able to find out who you are anyway. And you call trump stupid.

>bold and brash

MORE LIKE, BELONGS IN THE TRASH HAR

>write two paragraphs
>did i trol im?
That's not how it works

Dogma will only N cause destruction.

Rules must be able to be changed. People change, society changes, it is not meant to remain static. That is against human nature.

I don't know why anyone would care anyways. I'm just some neet loser. I just thought it was entertaining and wanted to share. I don't think Trump is exactly a genius but at least I'm trying to understand other peoples perspectives.

Exactly what I thought of.

>falling for the democratic socialist meme

former bernout turn redpilled, still listening for more reasons to support trump other than fighting SJWs/saving the western world/better than hillary

I don't really care about the offensive stuff, the 'deplorable' stuff. I ordered my MAGA hat yesterday.