Communism is said to have failed because of human nature (self interest, greed, etc)

Communism is said to have failed because of human nature (self interest, greed, etc)

What could be done to fix this?

kill all communists

never try communism again. problem solved

fpbp

Microship humans to make them act like selfless machines

There were other reasons beside "human nature". It'll never work.

CTRL + F:

jews

Lion veganism is said to have failed because of lion nature (carnivore, no molars, etc)

What could be done to fix this?

Stop creating Communist governments and finally let that abortion of an economic system die.

You just said yourself it's human nature. How and why the fuck would you even attempt to change nature itself? Are you fucking retarded?

stop those fucking goy thinking they are entitled to anything oy vey

Kill all humans, then communism can work.

Technology + eugenics/genetic engineering

I think communism could work if you completely removed human decision making at the highest levels. Technosocialism is the future, I believe.

Socialism with humans just leads to mass poverty and death.

whereas capitalism has "succeeded"

>force people to give up economic freedom
>wtf why dont people like this? they must be evil

commie logic

What is the point of humans if AI run everything?

Communism is predicated on top-level control, ergo centrally planned markets, you pleb.

In response to OP, Communism is fundamentally inefficient, and is only worsened by people being malicious.

put everyone into Gulags

Starve everyone who disagrees with us.

>automate every job that essential to survival
>figure out healthy "food" in pill form
>ban all useless things
>like those eyelashes you can put on your headlights
>and NASCAR
>and porn
>etc.
>get rid of the idea of capitalism
>get rid of the idea of money
>money exists so ugly men can fuck beautiful women

Off the top of my head.

>OH
>and gas the kikes
>once
>and
>for
>all

It failed for the same reason your systems fale, its because shit floats.

Shit concentrates in the ruling elites...

Got to rework all current institutions, and develop a system that grants access to opportunities and resources equally to ALL members of society, so that through genuine competition the bets human resources can come to power...

kill everybody except for one guy

that'd mean equality could be real

>ban all religions
>if you get caught practicing any religion, your options are to stop immediately and forever, or death
>combine science and spirituality
>figure out telepathy so nobody can lie

>make space exploration the number one priority in everybody's life

RARE

There is an anime that deal with that.
>Spoiler:It isn't nice unless you 100% to the System

Fuck communism. The only thing a government needs to do is to prevent people from harming eachother.

Greed isn't the problem with communism, communism is the problem with communism.

>The only thing a government needs to do is to prevent people from harming eachother.

oh hai

This.
The impossibility of a price system that allows for accurate economic calculations is the main reason it can't work.

nothing. Our inability to cooperate and solve the Prisoner's Dilemma when we have the ability to cheat will always fuck up communism and efficient public transportation

It can't be fixed because the incentive problem of all socialism is inherent.

Kill all the leftists and remove every trace of their cancerous ideology

Both Stalin and Mao tried this very thing but all that came of it was a lot of dead people and they never came any closer to creating the "socialist man".

>Kill all the leftists and remove every trace of their cancerous ideology
That's what all the Muslims and tyrants are saying too. You guys must be brothers or something.

Still wouldn't work because command economies can't innovate and basic communist theory like LTV are wrong

>someone shares something similar
>hurr durr you must be da same fur EVERYTHING


fuck off.

propaganda, cultural revolution and gulags

>Guys, I don't like that the sky is blue. How do we fix this?
You don't. Now get a job and stop whining about wanting other people's stuff.

There are many sides on this coin.
The main problem is us not being smart enough to realize our flaws and do harm in the long run instead of doing good.

Human evolution is the solution for me.
Both individual biological evolution and societal evolution. Getting stuck in dogmas stagnates us.

Communism is radical ideology that discards some of our evolved traits to work for some time.

Also

>What could be done to fix this?
by not having self interest and greed.
So no you can't make communism feasible

>What could be done to fix this?
MORE NIGGER PENIS

Well, to be honest, human nature fucks up most of the systems.

Kill all the greedy selfish people.

Having dogmas kills this. And you should be able to societal inertia flawlessly.

>Some guy writes the first half of a book which describes history in a way that explains all pain, suffering, poverty, war, inequality, discrimination, etc.

>Then he writes second half of the book in which he claims that the whole historical process and all bad things in life can be solved by simply buying his book and doing what it says.

That's called a fucking cult I'm pretty sure.

I don't want to be equal, I want to be free.

*able to account

What's the alternative: kill all the altruistic people? Then who are the selfish going to exploit?

Freedom is a meme.
Freedom doesn't exist outside human imagination.

BREIVIK needs our support to get his message heard across the white territories

You can not be "truely" free yet, your habitat sets some limits.

>create the GOD EMPEROR

Nothing.

This nigger knows what time it is

Clearly human nature has to change and not your fucked up ideology, faggot.

>What could be done to fix this?

Try communism without Jews.

>completely removed human decision making at the highest levels
Then who make the decisions?
If AI who programs the AI?

tfw the first post is the best post

Human nature cannot be fixed.
We require divine rule for such impossibilities.
That is one of the final red pills.

Human nature is changed by evolutional forces - the forces of nature.

For example living in harsh climate gives humans more foresight in the long run. Those without it just die.

Communism can be made succesful if you make anime real. If you can appease a man's soul he will do anything for you.
t. dostoyevsky

communism did not fail, is succeeded and succeeds to this day at what it was designed for: to gain ultimate over society at any cost, through any means (i.e. both physical force and fraud)

proofs: almost all past ant current communist dictators do this: kills huge amounts of their own population (aynone who opposes thim, is suscpected to oppose him or even is smart enough to oppose him in the future), the remaining population is constantly propangandized about impossible and contradictory economic systems and is denyed outside world and information

Sibyl's not nearly as controlling.
If you're not a criminal faglord it'll let you do what you want.

>Communism is said to have failed because of human nature (self interest, greed, etc)

>What could be done to fix this?

I'm not going to take the time to go through the 10000 word explanation of how to fix it.
I'm just going to tell you that if you take out everything in Communism that doesn't work and replace it with things that do,
You're going to end up with something like Capitalism.

>Reminder that Capitalism isn't a form of government, rather it is just the study of flow of money in a free economic system.

*to gain ultimate power

Well human nature will always be there (since it exists for a reason), so the logical thing is to dump communism altogether.

Remove areas of the brain that stimulate aggression and other negative emotions and replace them with rational thought. Over time, remove all emotions in favor of higher intelligence. Eventually, grow humans in tanks using the DNA of designated donors, causing there to be no necessity for females, who can never be trusted. Progenies can be grown at accelerated rates.

FPBP

> remove initiative
Negative emotion gives you stress that motivates you.

Science and education are the ways to go with in this era of anthropocene we live in.

Nothing drastic or short-term.

The problem with communists is that they tried to build their ideal society when countries and people weren't ready for it at all. So they tried making them behave altruistically by force. Lol.

Not to mention wasn't remotely technologically viable. A managed society with planned economy, without modern information networks, are you kidding me? Even something like Google Analytics would have made a difference for USSR.

No, what we need is technological and economical development. Once we have something even remotely approaching post-scarcity, a more socialist, altruistic society will naturally begin to emerge. Until then, any radical experiments will lead only to disaster.

THIS.

/thread

incorrect. it failed because of outside capitalist influence.

capitalist mindsets are born and bred from birth.

if you raise a child in a purely communistic environment (as they are in capitalism) they will accept it without question. human nature is a product of our upbringing and environment. we see and hear capitalist propaganda from birth.

Not true.
Even in communist society humans start to evolve traits to benefit them IF there are ANY flaws in society.

How do you account them in is problem - you can not account in something you are not aware of.

Nicely put, bratan.

>if you raise a child in a purely communistic environment (as they are in capitalism) they will accept it without question
Never heard of Cuba or North Korea, you chucklefuck?

FPBP

Can somebody explain me how to transform a capitalist state to a communist one without violating human rights?

Nothing to do with it being a excuse for Elites to have a greater status than the rest.
Post scarcity is a myth. There will be things that will always be scarce be it fame, social capital or knowledge.
Communism cannot work, because when you give all the power to a small group they will do everything in their power to keep it's privileged position. That's why you want a system of checks and balances and division of power.

>human rights
no such thing

its impossible, you need 100% of the people to buy in, get rid of private property etc. It will never happen without killing a large amount of people that dont agree to this shit

>personal 3D printers will never become a thing

>give all the power to a small group
But that's not communism.

Plz elaborate.

this

Make property so cheap and abundant it doesn't really matter for people if they own it or not.

Diamond age.

>What is the dictatorship of the proletariat, the stage of communism it is never able to overcome.
If you are going to speak communism you need to at least know your (((Marx)))

Where do I get my intergalactical enslaved-AI equipped cruiser, comrade?

castrating or killing absolutly everyone.

> not sterilizing women
kek
Are they excluded?

I've ordered my own on Aliexpress, but Pochta Rossii is being a bit slow.

Well, it's not a stage of communism, it's a stage leading to communism, isn't it?

...

> mfw they hide the item from Estonians on Aliexpress.
Gib some proxy, comrade. Policies of union I did not vote for hinder my access to goods.

Human rights are an example of a moral belief, founded in previous theological beliefs, which make the false claim of being grounded in rationality. The underlying principle of universality is in reality something that was developed by individuals to condition human behavior, and it inevitably leads to rival notions that come into conflict with each other.

No, that's just what communists say to try to avoid the obvious backlash of advocating for antidemocratic dictatorships. Since that previous stage is caused because communists views and it's only purpose is to bring a full communist state it's hard to argue that it's not in fact communism. That it's a previous stage to an hypotonic and never achieved despite many attempts full communism is only a technicality.