Is art degenerate?

It's like drugs. It was created to entertain and to distract people. 99% of modern artists are liberals, communists or "queers".

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Classical Art and Modern "Art" shouldn't be grouped together.

If you work hard at your art (and honestly believe in its power/message/whatever), then you get a pass. Working hard is the solution to everything.

No but modern art is

Depends what kind of art you're making. A lot of media exists just to dumb people down into a lower state of existence.

>one opinion
>for all of art

lol what???

Art is therapeutic

Different art heals different people

stfu with ur bullshit "degeneracy" meme

I got a BFA. Totally not worth it. All my professors were stuck up macfag liberal cucks. They barely provided any job opportunities through email.
Im sure school would have been better if I was a woman and sucked their cocks for networking and connections.

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>All my professors were stuck up macfag liberal cucks. They barely provided any job opportunities through email.

Yeah it's like almost 100% of these people are all pretentious holier than thou assholes. They have not and have never actually accomplished anything noteworthy they just all seem to enjoy the smell of their own shit.

>be an artist
>learn to draw well
>don't do shitty tumblr art
>don't do liberal cuck art
>don't be a liberal, communist or queer

There you go, the solution to all your problems.

Fucking Hollywood and POP music is NOT ART.

Its fucking marketing and advertising.

you are fucking retarded.

Behold my art.
rate it fags.
yes I'm queer get over it nazi scum

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It's meant to express the human condition in a way that traditional means can not. It's closer to psychology or philosophy.

Although it doesn't necessarily have to DO anything, it tends to help us learn about ourselves, our perceptions how they relate to the reality we live in and remind us of what we constantly forget.

Art is no longer freedom of expression, but a way to acquire funds.

True Art is beautiful and moral.

hahaha

"muh objective morals"

instant fag alert

The reason (((Modern Art))) is so degenerate is pretty fucking obvious. Indeed, the level of degeneracy within Western Art is directly proportional to (((Tribal))) influence. The absolute Apex was Berlin during the Wiemar period.

During that period Porn was literally seen/pushed as a fully legitimate art form on par with the paintings of Michelangelo and the compositions of Vivaldi. Teen and per-pubescent girls were being openly pimped out on the streets. We have fallen, but we have not fully succombed to the Jew poison yet.

However, fret not, for it was out of that degeneracy that the glorious Fuhrer rose. So rest easy my fellow anons, our time is coming.

Dunno you tell me
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Is this degenerate?

Everything but working and procreating is degenerate and should be punishable by death.

Plato wanted to expulse poets from his ideal country and Ovid was actually expulsed from Rome. Yes, artists are fucking degenerates

what about vacations?

This is art

This is degeneracy

assists with procreation and provides juxtaposition for working so people don't burn themselves out

Modern art can be, I mean almost all media now is corrupted by marixst ideas and influence. All these actors are just useful idiots

wtf is that?

An artist's impression of a potato nigger.

That´s a lot of gum

So Wagner was a degenerate? Der Fuhrer was a degenerate? T.S. Eliot a Degenerate? Rudyard Kipling? Shakespeare?

Well, yeah, that last one was a complete degenerate but you get the point. If all artists are degenerate then we are going to be disavowing a great many people who were rather woke to the Jewish problem and reflected it in their works. Those people are most certainly not degenerate. Even the degenerate ones like Shakespeare knew the score regarding the Tribe.

i'm way too austistic to understand arts, to me it is all complete and utter useless bullshit except instrumental music and architecture.

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Que?

Is the girl pregnant?

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>It's closer to psychology or philosophy.

You are correct, Jung has a great essay on it.
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Art used to be about preserving culture and civilization.

Modern art is about destroying culture and civilization.

"art"

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No, art is not degenerate. It's culture and history. It's one of the most important parts of a civilization.

This modern bullshit, menstruating on tarps and throwing shit at canvases is NOT art and it infuriates me what people try to justify as art.

This guy get's it.

no art used to be about telling a story. thats why modern art doesnt have meaning, because its not trying to tell a story.

>stfu with ur bullshit degeneracy
The first step down the path of degeneracy is to refuse to listen... Let us know when you hit rock bottom.

stfu with that Don't do drugs?
stfu with that don't sleep around?
stfu with that don't (insert degenerate meme here)?

> art used to be
Negro pls.

>He hasn't swallowed the ultimate redpills
Music's just a bunch of soundwaves put in a way to influence people's mood.

Art in architecture is useless: it should be about effeciency and usefulness.

most people who think of themselves as artists are just narcisists with an inflated sense of self worth generally because they are talented at something and vaguely good looking. Usually looking at themselves as victims for being obscure but not making it. Some might claim they dont want attention while constantly shoving other people's faces in what they are doing or what they have made.

Celebreties are just marketable versions of these people who are behind closed doors kinda creepy drug addicts with too much money and free time who base a cult of personality as part of their brand.
Some of them arent inherantly degenerate and just cultivate that image as a persona to sell to actual degenerate idiots who glorify and dream of that life style.

there is a huge spectrum from art (left) to (((art))).

>Art in architecture is useless: it should be about effeciency and usefulness.

Art is like religion and philosophy, it is important to man. When you destroy art and religion you reduce man, not elevate him. This was written the twenties but it applies just the same today,

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Cultural Marxism at work. The difference being is that back in the day most patrons were White European Christians. Now it's Zionist Jews. We... are living through the result of that paradigm shift.

You're almost there Muzzie. Modern Art does tell a story, the problem is that it's an anti-civilization story. It tells the story of how all Civilizations but most especially Western Civilization is a mistake and we should just go back to the stone age.

Conspicuously, Jewish Civilization is never questioned or held as a bad thing. Gee, I wonder why?

no you're much too materialist.

read about max plancks or werner von heisenbergs lifes. undegenerate arts are the perfect balance for the scientific mind.

modern architecture is ugly, because it has become too functional.

Modern art is

I understand its use for plebs, but it's not autistic enough for me.

No. Commie blocks are the epitome of architectural genius.

>leaf
opinion discarded
It's almost sad just how little you people know

I like to go with Roger Scruton's philosophy (at least what he says in "Why beauty matters") in art in architecture.
Beauty is necessary in life because beauty serves as the redeemer in this universe full of suffering.

There's good and bad modern art, just like there's good and bad classical art. Not all of it is trying to convey a "degenerate" message (even though plenty is, due to how easy it is to claim symbolism through a crude/shitty work).

no imho modern art doesnt tell a story. its just self expression of the artist himself and it doesnt have to make sense for the others, it only has to make "sense" to the artist, which i doubt ever happens as well because "modern" art is shit. modern art, just like the modern man, is all about self, all about narsicism. previously, artist was sort of responsible to excite people, turn their feelings on, make them feel either sad or happy, weak or powerful etc.

just look at for example wagner or mozart and how he fires you up when you listen to him. now compare him with someone else from our century.

or compare how the french revolution painting with the half naked woman makes you feel the intense times those french were exposed to, with her teared dress and other common people around him. and now compare it with just a regular so called "modern" art piece from our era.

pre 20th century art used to tell a huge story, with all its tiny details it contained etc. nowadays, the art doesnt tell you a story. its just whatever that narcist "painter" decided to puke on the paper.

obv. trolling, rare based leaf.

well spoken, luigi.

What was your BFA in?

dis dawg

i fuckin hate that old shit but the new art is better. fuck bach yes to tupac and big-e, hell i even like me some miley cyrus better than a boring old painting. nothing was sexaul back then either, now art will give you some pleasure if u know what i'm sayn.

I'd say singers and actors are the biggest and stupidest degenerates. This is why actors were excluded from society in the Middle Ages and until the 19th century actors were on par with prostitutes. As for writers and musicians - they are better

This thread is the worst case of "born in the wrong generation" I've ever seen.

Anyway, there's plenty of good modern art too. So, no it isn't degenerate. Just because a lot of people are shitty at it doesn't discount the whole field

>"modern" art is shit. modern art, just like the modern man, is all about self, all about narsicism.
You are correct in that art is a reflection of man. man is sick and has been for a century if not longer. Our technological progress has moved well beyond our social progress. You shouldn't be angry at the art produced but at the conditions that cause it and what can be done to repair man.

>If a work of art is explained in the same way as a neurosis, then either the work of art is a neurosis or a neurosis is a work of art. This explanation isall very well as a play on words, but sound common sense rebels against putting a work of art on the same level as a neurosis. An analyst might, in an extreme case, view a neurosis as a work of art through the lens of his professional bias, but it would never occur to an intelligent layman to mistake a pathological phenomenon for art, in spite of the undeniable fact that a work of art arises from much the same psychological conditions as a neurosis.

Multimedia bullshit. I can do a lot of nothing.

i love that post. the tree carving autist's rage is so palpable. truly a shame that someone like him can make it into an arts program - should've apprenticed at a woodcarvers, making chairs instead.

No.

Art in the past was a way for a rich person to convert his material wealth into aesthetic wealth. It's worth was in the pleasure it provided specifically for PRIVATE enjoyment. Or maybe to sometimes to impress peers and rivals. But if it wasn't good enough it couldn't serve its function.

Today "art" is a way to launder money and give political back-handers via state museums bidding for "artworks". High price is also a status symbol showing the immense affluence of a person who can dump a fortune for worthless shit. It's a more retarded way to show off power akin to piling up money and setting it on fire.

Art is not degenerate and your emotional intelligence determines what sort and what range of art you enjoy. People who rigidly stick to neo-classical cold images or poop and menstrual blood on a canvas are the two sides of the same coin of emotional poverty.

And people who don't like any art are not human.

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Why does POLL YOSSEF WOTSSON hate Matisse? It's not like the bulk of Matisse's work has anything to do with the rubbish he's mostly talking about. I don't think Matisse was Rembrandt-tier by any means, and I think he was more of a decorative craftsman, but there is no reason to hate his work at all. It's especially weird to act like Matisse is someone only some pretentious elite could appreciate. Matisse's work is very easy to appreciate even if you know nothing about art. A lot of it is pretty and very pleasant to look at. Sure, he had some less impressive work too, but so what?

>not understanding modern art

literally plebs

but you understand it, don't you?

I draw porn does that count?

Porn is art, ask Marquis de Sade

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