Does trump want to dumb down America?

Serious question.

I could not imagine a worse pick for secretary of education

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Can't get much dumber than America.

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Public education has worked so well, huh?

Yes.

it does if there are no niggers

Just more liberal communist propaganda because she is at the top of Amway.

As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.

> not a part of the miserable failure that is our current system

I could not imagine a way that she could be more qualified. FUCK this "more of the same" nonsense. When kids are being as thoroughly failed by the schools as they are now, we need radical new ideas. Or, in librul terms, we need some hope and change rather than status quo.

CTR reconstituted and is now on a propaganda campaign against Trump.

She went to private schools and has a degree from Calvin College.

Image tries to portray her as someone who never went to school.

The swamp is going to be a skyscraper with a pool.

From what I've seen, the US public education system is absolute dogshit.

The good
>supporting for-profit education
Getting the smart ones that can attain a stipend out of kindergarten nigger hell
>teachers are overpaid
A teacher's sole qualifier is passion. Most lack it, thus they deserve less.
>didn't throw own offspring into the fire
good mother

The bad
>no teaching experience

The ugly
>advocating religious education in a time where pedophilia is forced into normalization
kids gonna get touched without repercussion

I wouldn't talk shit about Betsy....Her brother will find you.... He will kill you....

Trump wants to dissolve the department of education as a federal institution, so he chose someone who would be okay with having their job go away.

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this is such a gamble so I know why people are against it

but for fuck all sake, schools ALWAYS need money, there are so many improvements to be made, it's beyond ridiculous

can you name a better way or incentive than profit? best case, there's a school or group of schools that outperform in every metric and they're now the new standards that other schools adapt and frankly, we need more schools, which also requires funding

this is just Trump gutting federal funds but I do want to see how the free market works for education

I don't see a single negative on here

What's wrong with being a billionaire? Also being the head of a huge organization is quite a bit different than being a worker in that industry. Keep in mind that the Department of Education doesn't operate schools directly. School boards do that. The DoEd sets standards, provides guidance and assistance. It doesn't decide which teacher is assigned to which classroom in Anytown, USA. Most of what is listed in OP's graphic would be fine if she were running for the local school board but she's not. This is a cabinet level position that shouldn't be filled with Ms. Susie who has a two years of experience teaching third grade music.

You are against private Christian education? I'm trying to send my kids to a private school and saving a bit on taxes would help.

What are you? Cuckolds

>Billionaire
That's a bad point?
>No education degree
So she's smart enough not to get an education degree.
>No teaching experience
Would be nice, but capable people very rarely go into education.
>No experience working in a school environment
Like most educaiton secretaries. *shrugs* would be useful but is just as necessary as 'experience performing brain surgery' is for a Health Secretary or 'Fluency in every single language' for a Secretary of State.
>Never attended public school or state university
Was lucky enough not to endure public school and smart enough not to have to go to a state.
>Never put her own children in public school
Got her children into the best school possible. This is a bad thing?
>Does not believe in or support public education
A lie.
>Believes that public school teachers are overpaid
True
>Supports for-profit education
Good.
>Invested $200 million in Christian schools and organisations
A major philanthropist who has donated huge amounts to education? Yes.
>Doggedly advocates funneling money out of public education and into for-profit-Christian-based education
A lie/simplification. Either way - parents should decide where their money goes, not some scumbag retard Democrat/Prog with a Gender studies degree. Introduce vouchers across the board and it's problem (the problem of elites like the Obamas sending their kinds to elite private schools while trapping poor black kids in poverty) solved.

This is what happens in democracy. This is not a pure trump issue.

If any self described fascist is defending this, then you aren't fascist. Stop defending democracy.

Teachers are the fucking problem. They ARE overpaid. They're spoiled as fuck, and brainwash kids of all colors into liberalism. Half the reason Dindus are such sacks of human garbage is a combination of them being told it's okay to be a shitgoblin, and us being told it's okay for them to be shitgoblins.

During the financial crisis of 07-08, you could find teachers everywhere crying about not getting a raise that year. The entire fucking country crashed. A million Americans lost their jobs to Mexico. The ones who could find work took a 23%, on average, pay cut. And a million teachers were crying about not getting a raise.

They bitch about working 50 hours a week - welcome to adulthood, dumb fucks. What they don't tell you is that every single fucking extra-curricular job they hold comes with a stipend. Not only is their base pay too high, but what you see isn't even 75% of their income.

They work less than 9 months a year. Don't let them bullshit you into thinking otherwise. They get holidays, random days, snow days, and a week for Christmas and Easter off.

And when they start to fucking complain about "but muh continued education' - guess what? The more higher education they complete, the more they automatically get paid.

All of this comes with the whiniest fucking cadre of cunts you've ever met in your life. Most have literally never worked a day in their life, and think that babysitting 30 kids is a job worthy of being paid what an engineer makes. Teachers are overpaid as fuck, but they've never lived in a world where no one cares about their whining - they've never actually worked for a living - so all they know is to complain.

You can track the decline of US education with the growth of Department of Education. This is not just correlation. A federal department is supposed to know and care more about what schools need extra funding than the state in which those schools are located? Give me a fucking break.

>No Education Degree
> No Teaching Experience

Retards get those to think they're qualified to teach children.

Also, since no one else has mentioned it, you are criticizing an education pick when you didn't even ask a question while stating you had a question. The irony is not lost on me, especially since it's occupy Democrats tier.

I was going to type out a well thought our reply but I decide to just say GET GASSED KIKE instead

>I could not imagine a worse pick for secretary of education
I could not imagine American education being worse than it already is, and it's entirely leftist-run. America will literally be better off if this lady manages to dismantle it entirely so that leftists can no longer indoctrinate children while providing literally 0 useful skills.

We are a culture that currently celebrates weakness instead of strength. There is little profit to be made from educating the defective but that is where an oversized percentage of our current education dollars go. In a for profit school, resources would be allocated where they can maximize educational output. This means the best students would be given resources to excel as far as possible while the dullards are left behind rather than dragging everyone else down. This scares liberals to death. They feel weak so they celebrate and promote weakness as a virtue.

she is an Amway billionaire. Amway is a criminal enterprise stealing billions and billions for decades from the poor. It is all about privatising every fucking thing so scam artists like Amway crooks can fleece the rubes

>smart enough not to send her children to public school
>believes in charter schools and free school choice
>invested 200mil of her own money in christian schools and orgs


whats not to like?

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THIS

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People fall for the public education meme so hard they don't know any better. SAD

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blah blah blah
nobody cares what you "think"
fucking retard
go read a book

You must be uneducated if your brain can't fathom another worse possibility. Why doesn't your brain work?

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this will create a permanent underclass and a segregated society of walled communities, even more so than it is today, government's job is to balance the natural trend of inequality and monopoly that the free market creates

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Your response is a prime example of the results of the leftist-dominated American public "education".

>dumb down America
>even more
Is that even possible?

she gave money for a kick back job
a bribe
her crimes have been noted
day of the rope is nigh

>I do want to see how the free market works for education
Private schools are already the default for anyone with the money to afford it. The public school system is an endless money vacuum that devotes all it's time and effort into trying to educate sub-90 IQ retards.

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The DoE is just a haven for liberal public sector workers who want to believe they know shit about education. They'll take a dollar from a state, pay their workers, pay the rent on their buildings, fly on research trips to school districts (vacations), and end up giving $0.20 to a school that doesn't need it.

Fuck teachers, fuck the DoE. Abolish that shit.

My first year at uni, post-military, I was going for a degree to teach remedial algebra to college kids. Worked for the school as a tutor. Loved the work, loved making kids' heads click onto how easy that shit is, but holy fucking christ the work environment made me want to fucking vomit. Changed career path on year 2.

Don't believe anything these whiny cucks say. Half the time when they're on the news saying "I don't even make X" you can google their fucking salary and see they make well more than that. And again - that's with almost 3.5 months off a year.

If you take the starting salary for a teacher and calculate it for 50 hour weeks with 3.5 months off a year - their BASE pay is $27/hr, with FREE AND HUGE pension "contributions" (your money), and FREE HIGH END health insurance with ridiculously low deductibles.

Fuck teachers, and fuck the DoE.

Okay then. what would be worse? a convicted murderer for education?

You mean fact based education

>invests 200 million in schools
>doesn't know anything about schools

What do you think investment is? You just hand money to someone else and then they pay you more later and that's all there is?

Do you people even read what you type?

>what would be worse
Leaving education in the hands of leftists. You literally cannot do worse. No public education is better than what they have now.

The weak would be culled. Sorry this scares you but you are obviously a drain on society which is why you defend the weakening of society.

People conflate Christianity and those who support Christian doctrine as regressive for some reason even though realistically, Christians are going to be the major sweeping force that drive out Muslim invaders. in other words it's cool to shit on Christianity since Christians won't cut your face off when you insult us.

They'll learn soon enough.

Teacher here. I drop redpills to my students all the time.


MAGA.

Dont make me poorer bro. I just want to provide for my white family.

Public HS teacher here, just wanted to point out that teachers are paid based on the area that they work in.

For example a well-preforming district in a middle-class surban neighborhood will pay teachers substantially less than a district in a poor performing urban district.

Can common core. It's absurd to compare districts to eachother based on arbitrary goals set by the DOE. Especially considering significant cultural and social economic differences.

>lelele nobody cares what you think retard read a book
>this is fact-based education
This is how leftists actually think... they're being taught them the "correct" opinions in school so they don't actually have to form actual arguments or explain themselves.

The problem is not that "the education is in the hand of leftists".

The problem is that the right wing is lying and spreading disinfo like climate change denial and creationism. lefitsts just stick to facts more often

Federal government should have absolutely no say in education. Department of education is unconstitutional.

>The problem is not that "the education is in the hand of leftists
Then how come it's dominated by leftists and doing so badly?

>muh facts
But you're literally denying them as we speak.

Would you be chill with a lower pay at first, but then a raise due to you being an actual teacher instead of an brainwasher?
For profit schools will reward good teachers and punish air-breathing tenure seekers

>lefitsts just stick to facts more often

Of course you couldn't being a fucking Jew. Hey retard here's the thing, the public school system in america is so liberal, so flawed and dysfunctional that it lacks near total merit, literally anything else that isn't more of your Semitic poison be from Islamists or you fucking culture, true religion and true anything hating kikes would be better.

Getting rid of public education would actually make us smarter.

You mean lie of omission education? Any American can tell you how many times they've learned about the holocaust EVERY YEAR, while not knowing our own government rounded up people and dumped them into camps. I'm sure you're happy about that, Rabbi tho.

>climate change denial
Man-made global warming violates the criterion of falsifiability and is, therefore, unscientific. If you think otherwise, let's hear what possible experiment you can propose to test this hypothesis.

lol @ yes

found the shill

>implying japanese internment wasn't justified

The reason people who work in education are more leaning towards the left is for the exact same reason in the post you quoted.

right wingers tend to make things up, which makes people who work in education lean to the left naturally

>Be from the south
>Already used to being paid $8.50 an hour and having people act like its doing me a favor


I just want a base enough income starting at my job that I can afford to fix the heater AND the hot water heater at the same time and not have to pay for one while boiling water and bathing out of my sink for two weeks until the next paycheck.


I dont want millions. Im not asking for six figures.

>education is failing, so lets just put the same old people in place that made it bade in the first place
I'd prefer her over anyone from the (((current education system)))

that shit doesn't happen in school, it happens at confessionals and honestly fuck that a religious education is better than none. You can't even begin to talk to people about cultures and relgions when having never been taught about one. Second to that is the simple case that the country is by and far a Christian one. So Christianity in schools should not be barred and I bet would be well received by and far most of the country/thread.

That is wrong. there are direct scientific evidence showing the current trend of global warming is man made

youtube.com/watch?v=6VUPIX7yEOM&t=4s

the facts are in, there is no man made climate change going on.....

climatedepot.com very helpful to morons like yourself

>The reason people who work in education are more leaning towards the left...
So you acknowledge that they're "left-leaning" (to put it mildly). Why is American education doing so badly, then? Why are these fact-oriented, science-loving leftist teachers producing ignorant, incompetent and unemployable high-school graduates?

She's perfect. Queen. I can tell she's Dutch.
Private education is the future.

Burgerlads, will she destroy Common Core?

Some questions:

What is public school? Is that for everyone or is that the one you have to pay for?

What is for-profit education? Is that just child-labour?

What is Christian education? Isn't that and oxymoron?

public schools are the works of marxist kikes

So many generally accepted false statements in this post.

A large extra-curricular activities are unpaid, and ones that are drastically underpaid. To consider it 75 of their income is laughable. If you know of a place where this is true, please send me an application.

In NJ, at least, it's not based on amount of degrees it's based on highest achieved.

If you want to complain about anything in a average school district: consider that 3 building principals and vps, a superintendent and assistant superintendent and business officer supervisor added salaries make up nearly 18 of me - per year. A 5 year teacher with a master's degree- stipends included.

This is leaving out supervisors and a bunch of pointless positions that would never see the light of day if this was a private company.

If it's wrong, why did you fail to address it? Demonstrate that your hypothesis is falsifiable by offering a possible experiment to test it. Why does every single member of your cult repeatedly ignore this simple request every single time?

Google lord Monckton. Dude proved the model everyone uses for climate change is full of Shit. And he proved it using good ol' mathematics

Scholarships and stipends are not exclusive to and do not necessarily have anything to do with for-profit educational institutions.

Agree mostly. I think the dumb dumbs can be put into trade programs. Honestly, skills like carpentry are going away, and you don't need to be bright or even talented to have success in America, just a skill and work ethic

>Teachers are the fucking problem. They ARE overpaid.

mate you wouldn't think that if you had to put up with half the shit teachers put up with every day
i work in adult and university education but i know a lot of school teachers
i wouldn't do their job for 5x their salary

>babysitting

it's more like fucking riot control

the real problem is parents who don't know how to raise their fucking kids
some of them aren't even properly toilet trained by the time they get to school

Public school is for everyone

For profit schools are schools you can pay to get into, they work to make a profit. I think prep schools are for profit.

Catholic schools, etc

Cheers broseph

The problem are non public schools which funnel tax dollars away from the public school.

You should be more than welcome to choose were you go school, just gotta foot the bill.

My psychotic ranting was only a little bit about how much you're paid. Most was at how teachers talk about how much they're paid. It's a golden fucking ticket. I don't want you guys to make less, I want you to acknowledge that you make plenty, once you get the actual "teacher" title.

And if you want to make more $, you should despise the DoE. There's no reason our dollars have to bounce around between a gaggle of clueless DC faggots before being doled out stupidly to districts across the country. Or have them dictate that a fucking lobster fisherman in Maine needs the same education as a coconut farmer in Hawaii.

Or keep the DoE, reduce it down to 3 or 4 autists who calculate Cost of Living per school district, and dole out the education taxes on a per student basis with slight cost of living adjustments, instead of wasting half the taxes they get that SHOULD be going to kids.

The people in charge of school curriculum already have zero experience in education to begin with.

Fucking anyone.

it's amazing to think that there are still people like you around

even most climate change sceptics have moved on to just arguing about the scale of the problem rather than whether it exists at all

you guys are the real hardcore. it must take a fair amount of effort to maintain such a blinkered attitude. respect.

The same teacher from the 2 wall of text posts before. I would like to note I hate most of my colleagues.

I literally could not have made less of an effort in school without just refusing to take tests and I still passed

Public education is a fucking joke

>97% of climate scietists are lying!!!
>The 3% that get money from the oil industry are telling the truth :3

sure thing mate

Its aight bro.


There's a ton of leftist globablist trash in this profession. 90% of male teachers I know though are pic related when it comes to their bullshit.


At least it's easy to get student loans forgiven as a teacher, particularly if you live in a state where every school district is listed as impoverished.

Fair enough still I hate you leaf boy

Goddamnit. Wrong pic.

Hey bud. Do you know why the left is shitting itself over Betsy? I do. Let me explain.

For decades they have had control over teacher's unions and have acquiesced to every government program to make the populace complacent and retarded. Betsy has this crazy idea that the teacher's union should be gutted, tenure shouldn't be a thing for people whose only real teaching need is a text book and a standardized test prep book, and she really likes Charter schools.

Betsy DeVos is going to take away the left's control over thought in this country and all you can do is cry about it.

>hurr durr u so ignorant lelele all scientists think i'm rite doe senpai
Another product of leftist education. If I'm so obviously wrong, why are you unable to address the argument? Didn't they teach about the importance of the falsifiability criterion in forming a scientific theory? Why does every man-made GW cuck consistently fail to demonstrate how the hypothesis meets this criterion?

Check the literacy rate and such in countries with no public school

>to consider [extra curricular] as 75% of their income
Read it again, faggot. I said what you see (which is their BASE pay) is 75% - that means extra-curricular is 25%, because 100-75=25.
>In NJ, based on highest
Yes, faggot, it's that way everywhere. If you go to summer classes for underwater basket fucking you don't get paid more. If you get a HIGHER degree, you do. You inferred I meant every single college credit gets you paid more? Nope.
>leaving out supervisors
I wasn't fucking talking about supervisors. I left out penguins too, dickcheese.

>makes appeal to popularity
>still utterly fails to show that GW is falsifiable
Public education, ladies and gentlemen.

Oh no, kike trickery "common core" is being thrown out. No more constant Holocaust drivel being pumped into young minds! OY VEY, IT'S ANOTHER SHOAH!