I'll pop in every 30-40 min to respond to legit posters.
inb4s (if your post contains any of these read the response and respond to it or fuck off and stop shitposting on my board):
>THE CIA SAID IT AND I DON'T TRUST THEM It isn't just the CIA. In fact it's everyone who works in cyber. This includes private companies. (that means they are owned by civilians) >HILLARY SHILL I'm glad Hillary lost, I voted Trump. >THEY JUST EXPOSED CORRUPTION Correct. However, that does not make it ok for a foreign entity to target and exploit US information. >WMDs IN IRAQ!!1!1! WE CAN'T TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT!!!! Strawman, fuck off, and look up Operation Avarice. >ASSANGE SAID IT WASN'T RUSSIA Implying Russia wouldn't dupe that retard... Also, trusting Assange more than YOUR ENTIRE GOVERNMENT MAKES YOU A TRAITOR.
>IT WAS PHISHING NOT A HACK Ok but this doesn't change the fact that a foreign government was targeting US networks for it's personal benefit.
Carter Rodriguez
> He thinks Trump of all people is going to be pushed around by Putin
Liam Jenkins
I'm the same guy from earlier if that's what you're implying.
Otherwise, nice argument.
Gabriel Cruz
I seriously hope that Trump is not a Russian puppet and the Russians like him since Trump isn't against them. It's sad how people on Sup Forums suck Russia's cock.
Camden Roberts
I don't know how he will handle it.
Remember that originally he said "Russia had nothing to do with this!". Now he is admitting that Russia was involved (after his recent briefings by the intelligence community) but is trying to condone it and move forward.
I hope he takes a tougher stance against those ice niggers personally.
Lincoln Rivera
Russia is our friend, get fucked you subhuman hohol.
Jayden Hughes
>Also, trusting Assange more than YOUR ENTIRE GOVERNMENT MAKES YOU A TRAITOR Bullshit, American citizens have had a distrust in their government for forever know. Doesn't make us traitors.
Brayden Nelson
>It's sad how people on Sup Forums suck Russia's cock. Yes I know and that is the only reason I post these threads.
I don't know what makes people trust Putin over their own native government which is made up of thousands of Americans who have friends and families here.
It makes zero sense and is pathetic/embarrassing.
Cuck of Russia.
Get out of my country traitor.
Logan Flores
>I'll pop in every 30-40 min to respond to legit posters.
I doubt you'll have to pop in before this lameness 404's, you should go have some lunch.
Brody Wood
No one is your real friend user. Your country has broken countless deals, murdered countless leaders of other countries, nearly successfully completed genocide on native americans, and stole all the sandniggers oil. Oh and you owe everyone in the world money, including trillions to China who owns you. And dropped a fucking nuculear bomb or three. Why would anyone want to be your fucking friend?
Eli Clark
>and stole all the sandniggers oil This is the important bit.
Why do you think we did this? Why do you think we built such a huge Navy/Air Force and became experts in urban warfare? Why do you think we are sucking up the rest of the world's oil supplies when we have our own stockpiles?
Because when Peak Oil comes... that is when the US will become a global entity.
>No one is your real friend user. You're correct and we need no friends. American families will continue to live prosperously and others will suffer. That's the way of the world. Be glad you are posting from here.
However, Russia is a problem and should be destroyed ASAP but that is just a personal opinion.
Benjamin Sanders
Also doesnt change the fact that every government does this including ours. Obama even hacked Merkel's cell phone. Should Germany put up an embargo with the US?
Parker Carter
Sounds like you're the arm wrestling type bro? Your brainwashing really worked, are you in the millitary?
Nathan Moore
>8 days left
Wyatt Clark
...
Justin Evans
hahaha great thread you neocohens scum, get fucked
Justin Morgan
Are you so naive that you don't believe every government spies on every other one, if it is able?
I'm genuinely asking.
Not currently but I was.
Would you like to refute anything I've said or just make observations?
What you consider brainwashing I consider realism. That is because I've seen and read information and translated it into Intelligence. You (probably) haven't.
There is a finite amount of resources available to the people on this planet. We absolutely WILL ultimately end up fighting over them.
Denying this is denying human nature and believing in an unachievable utopia.
Isaiah Carter
For one the us millitary is not as strong as you think. Communists and muslims actually have shit they're willing to die for. How many Americans do you think are willing to die for a fictional middle eastern man that was born from a virgin?
Nolan Hernandez
>How many Americans do you think are willing to die for a fictional middle eastern man
Not many but plenty of Americans are willing to kill and the technology we posses and continue to develop makes it easier and more impersonal each year.
Juan Wright
I'd also like to add that most of the young men in our service our willing to die for our country.
Joseph Jenkins
Checked. Also, I'm worried about Trump and how he'll handle Russia. They are a different country with different culture, people, and ideas for the future. I don't know if coexisting with them is possible; action needs to be taken if anyone is to take us seriously.
What incentive do other nations have to not try and harm us politically or economically if we don't punish this type of behavior?
>inb4 Russia cucks call me shill
I also voted Trump because I care about this country and am fed up with liberal policy; also, I want our economy to flourish again.
Daniel Ramirez
>Russia is not our friend. What a surprise, John!
Daniel Myers
It was a Ukrainian malware tookit thats openly available to anyone who looks for it. BTFO
Colton Gray
But at some point it will come down to man on man fighting. And a man who has a crazy ideal or influence are much more inspired to fight.
Joseph Collins
Take the red pill
Trump, assange, putin vs. bullshit banker fags
pick your side nigglet
Sebastian Howard
That's it, time to arm wrestle forest gump. You sound like my grandpa 50 years ago. Go build yourself a bomb shelter and kys. Wait, you probably already have the bomb shelter.
Matthew Sanders
I understand the skepticism, but is it really wrong to think that the US and Russia can work together? Even if we can't get along and it ends up we go to war with them, I am confident our military is stronger than theirs. Maybe not in manpower, but in tactics and technology.
Kayden Flores
NEW WORLD ORDER
ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT
HILLARYKEKS BTFO
KING DAVID WILL RULE FROM THE THIRD TEMPLE
Juan Martin
Yawn. Fake news.
Jayden Baker
OP you do realize pol is probably a majority of russian proxy shills posting under USA flag. Its beyond cringy. Anyone who sides with malingering or undermining in our election or political process is literally a proxy shill, or some retarded tin foil hat wearing bumpkin.
Oliver Hernandez
History says otherwise.
Josiah Turner
Will jesus and moses be there? Moses seems tough, but i doubt jesus will bring much to the table, kinda gay and wimpy.
Justin Gray
wow, that totally convinced me,
I should believe everything the CIA tells me without questioning it.
WHY DIDN'T I REALIZE IT BEFORE?
Cooper Young
>Because govts don't use OTS kits for better obfuscation.
Hehe BTFO
Jayden Hall
That's not redpilled. That's lazy thinking at best if you believe all that those on the left stand for are good.
Logan Richardson
Why is it okay for George Soros to influence our election but not Vladimir Putin?
Anthony Kelly
I'm sorry you have to deal with people who think that Russia hacked the actual tallying process. This didn't happen and is a distraction from the real issue.
Josiah James
Agreed. Honestly, the best thing that could happen to Russia and China is a surprise nuclear strike. It's good vs evil, us against them.
Dunno why we tolerate dictatorships that exploit their people.
Kevin Walker
>But at some point it will come down to man on man fighting Why do you think this will happen?
Jack Rivera
>Russia is not our friend. Doesn't make them our enemy.
The likelihood of us going full conventional war isn't as high as most would think. We're allies of necessity, but our strategic interests do not align. So no we might never be butt buddies but we have to coexist on a global socio economic level at least somewhat for the sake of the world.
The way we big states do war now is by proxy, detterence and information campaigns such as this to play the ebb and flow of power each state has.
We build shit that explodes, fund our favorite players and try to influence the others population to a degree. Each state is usually looking out for number one, so the definition of good and bad is really subjective. If you're an American then it can't be blamed if you have skepticism in the govt as it is warranted and should even be scrutinized through proper means such as oversight hearings.
But to completely shut out indications and warnings that could have future implications on your future is irresponsible.
Brayden Reyes
>ENTIRE GOVERNMENT handful of secret people at secret agencies with secret sources for secret documents They can`t find one single person willing to put their reputation on the line and say it`s true or that they have proof of any of it, because they don`t. Russia is not your enemy unless you make them so. America does every single fucking thing you are accusing russia of, and worse. The dems ran both sides of the election in Ukraine ffs, OPENLY. Your government has been controlled by a criminal faction since nov22 1963, and DJT represents an actual HOPE for CHANGE. MAGA from Leafistan
Pretty obviously it's a foreign vs. domestic distinction.
Jason Campbell
I'd rather be friends with China than Russia.
Lucas Thomas
Why is Russia such a problem for a big and powerful country like America ? You guys like win all the fucking time Also what about China ?
Adrian Green
>Also, I'm worried about Trump and how he'll handle Russia. >I also voted Trump because I care about this country and am fed up with liberal policy; also, I want our economy to flourish again. You are literally me.
>What incentive do other nations have to not try and harm us politically or economically if we don't punish this type of behavior? I think the sanctions and expulsions were enough to send a message and I know for a fact there are covert actions via CIA/NSA against them happening now. More than there were before I just hope that it is enough.
Haha thanks for the input bear fucker.
It's surprising how many here think that you are though.
stfu retard honestly
While this is correct 1000%, I doubt a scenario where there will ever be man on man trench style warfare will happen again.
Today's wars will be fought over computers using subterfuge.
The red pill is that other countries are our friends.
I know it's hard but just swallow it ok?
ok? Do you actually have a point or what?
Hudson Reyes
Because underestimating/ignoring your advisary always goes well.
Also if you're referring to the OPM breach then yeah. That's not cool either.
Samuel Gray
Russia as a nation is hardly an enemy. At the moment, more so then the majority of friendly nations, They are aligned with anti-islamic and anti-globalist views which compose much of the trump supporter voter base.
After that they could arguably be an enemy but even that is only until Putin's presidency-till-death ends and without him the oligarchy will be too weak to sustain itself.
Honestly, IMO Putin is the only thing preventing Russia from becoming another third world shithole.
>inb4 russian proxy/trump shill I didn't even vote.
Thomas Bennett
It isn't ok. However this is pure speculation with no basis in facts.
If you think otherwise you are acknowledging that no government on the planet employing it's most talented citizens has been able to catch Soros actually doing anything incriminating.
That's absurd.
There's an inb4 for you retard but I guess it's to be expected.
>us against them This is the red pill.
That is how they see us.
You can pick one:
-Russia -American Media
Levi Morgan
I'll ask again then since I'm not satisfied with underestimating your advisory... Answer Why is Russia such a problem Like specifics ? For example: they wanna rule the world, fuck up the USA, start ww3 etc. Could you give me some more insight on why ? Thank you
>our strategic interests do not align You're smart.
>handful of secret people This is literal tinfoil tier bullshit. Do you know that?
Great. You don't have to trust your friends. That's the point.
>You guys like win all the fucking time We want to keep this going. That means staying a step ahead of everyone.
>Also what about China ? What about them? They aren't a threat currently.
Their cyber is impressive but they no Navy or Air Force.
David Wilson
>Today's wars will be fought over computers using subterfuge. Then later >Their cyber is impressive but they no Navy or Air Force.
????
Leo Fisher
If you don't want to try to be "friends" with Russia, you might as well just leave the Country, because its going to happen. Also, Russia did not hack anything.
John Gutierrez
>tinfoil how much do i have to wear to believe that Putin videotaped Trump wearing pajamas, jerking off to hentai, in a cinema full of prostitutes, while underage girls piss on him The american tinfoil must be stronger than ours
Christian Anderson
Why are americucks so retarded?
Legit question, this has been clear long before the election night
Levi Torres
What proof is there you faggot? All their reports provide no hard proof Fuck off Saged t. someone who works in the information security industry
Noah Gray
all fighting takes place in red areas
red areas can be fucked up and nobody will give a shit
Daniel Moore
I don't understand...?
Explain clearly your point.
>Also, Russia did not hack anything. You are either:
1. A cuck of the Russians 2. A traitor
Take your pick, which is it?
Maybe you should fucking get out of my country you piece of shit.
>Russia is not your enemy unless you make them so. Never said they were our enemy. If you could actually read English the OP says they are not our friend. If you can't tell the difference you should probably do your homework, shut the fuck up, and go to bed.
>America does every single fucking thing you are accusing russia of, and worse. Ok? Every country does this.
You know why? Because it's looking out for #1.
Does that somehow make Russia's actions ok? Are you retarded?
>Your government has been controlled by a criminal faction since nov22 1963, and DJT represents an actual HOPE for CHANGE. MAGA from Leafistan tinfoil
Logan Thomas
>he thinks Russia and China are friends.
Joshua Flores
>"friends" with russia >"friends" with saudi arabia
pick one. one of them has more value.
Wyatt Allen
>I repeat: Russia is not our friend.
I made a video to refute you, it covers all of your points but this one most heavily:
You know this terrorism thing has been going on awhile right ? And not just in the red area
Logan Cook
I mean if the wars will be fought with computers that kinda makes the air force and navy obsolete no ? Although last case scenario i d rather have a gun then a computer so yeh
Carter Rogers
Do you have a point or do you just type pointless bullshit on a Mongolian image board?
It's classified retard.
Do I need to explain why? Answer this please.
Also,
FUCK YOU RUSSIA YOU TOOTHPASTE SNOW NIGGER PIECE OF SHIT!!!!
You'll pay for this.
Someone with a brain.
Parker Hall
i just made this as a joke and also to show where everyones allowed to fight. proxy wars are all fought in the red area. it's like where big powers go to duke it out without fucking up their own stuff.
i'm sure a lot of the lines i drew are wrong. i just put russia and china together because they're frenemies of US
Noah Bell
As I said in an earlier post. Our interests conflict with thiers and we're just looking out for ours. It's not as simple as them wanting to start WW3. Russia has been involved information warfare campaigns across many NATO countries. It's no secret that they could benefit from a destabilized NATO.
With that we'd see more instances like Estonia circa 07 and Georgia 08. Which gone unchecked can snowball easily.
We have a NATO member in Turkey. Ankara and Moscow don't really see eye to eye on alot of things, an unchecked Russia or Turkey would probably be one of the simplest way to our WW3 scenario but that's just a hypothetical based in history.
I can get into the middle east as well between Israel Iran and Syria, some very pivotal states for both US and Russia but I do hope you see the point.
It's about intention and capabilty. The Russians are very capable in many facets. Their intentions are not always the most clear but lean on the more dubious side as far as the west is concerned. Any basic analytic tradecraft usually mentions that when talking about adversarI'll entities.
Ethan Allen
Thanks I'm out
Bentley Hughes
I have nothing against Russia, so I choose friends with Russia
Nolan Parker
>Our interests conflict with thiers >Russia has been involved information warfare campaigns across many NATO countries
What is your background? You are surprisingly red pilled.
What do you think we should do about Russia?
Why do so many people here like them?
I don't trust them. I don't trust anyone outside of FVEY and even them I keep at a distance.
Russia can fuck off.
Evan Phillips
>a country that is infiltrating your native information and using it to meddle in your political affairs for it's own personal benefit is... your friend >???
That's your thought process?
Is that right?
Nicholas Nguyen
Also, fuck Clapper. He is a liar, he only reports what he is told to report, also, he is way to old to hold his position. He probably has no idea how to change a file name, let alone know ANYTHING about hacking. You want to believe Russian's hacked the DNC with no evidence, go ahead, but I will not believe anything the CIA says after their claim about WMD's just to go to war.
I don't think you will ever rid yourself of your bubble, you probably believe the official JFK story also.
Dominic Morris
>james-clapper-confirms-russia-was-behind-fake confirms that russia runs RT, gj CIA Half the countries in the world are `not your friend`, so what. Russia has the gdp of Italy. Obomber has killed little brown kids in 8 different muslim countries in the last 8 years, but those lives don`t matter. Russia dindu nuffin CIA are literally paid liars Media revealed as in collusion with DNC - they do not refute the authenticity of wikileaks emails, only how they got them You can`t get tinfoil in canada anymore only aluminium, so get flipped burger
Samuel Morgan
I do not believe Russian's hacked anything. So I have nothing against Russia you faggot. I bet you voted for Hillary right?
Luke Ross
you will not be friends with russia. they want our spot in the economy. they want the pivot area of eurasia. they want imperial expansionism.
Trump is not a tactful negotiator. Putin loves him because he's constantly threatening to drop NATO funding (not a terrible idea desu) because he thinks it will help him in his encroachment on the western border of Russia.
Jayden Nelson
What is worst case scenario if US-Russia relations fully thaw into allyship?? >genuine question
Evan Richardson
I don't give a fuck about the hacking. Even if they meddled in our election I'll chalk it up to "What goes around..."
Russia-US has same or less capacity for friendship that US-China has, by virtue of economic rivalry alone.
Levi Brown
The more it triggers faggots like you the more I love Russia. Thank you Putin!
Ayden Peterson
>He probably has no idea how to change a file name
WOW
You need to neck yourself immediately you fucking blue pilled fool.
>Half the countries in the world are `not your friend` Thanks for pointing this out.
>Obomber has killed little brown kids in 8 different muslim countries in the last 8 years, but those lives don`t matter. They are the enemies of the US, so as you say, "they don't matter". I'm not sure how that is relevant. >CIA are literally paid liars You know the CIA is comprised of thousands of talented young men and women from American universities right? Are they all "paid liars"? You realize their friends and families live here right? >Media revealed as in collusion with DNC There is an inb4 specifically for this.
You are a troll or retard. Which is it?
Alexander Johnson
Can you believe some people on this site doubt the allegations because they somehow think they came from here
Yikes.
Michael Jones
HATE RUSSIA
Landon Cruz
They will not thaw. The best we can hope for is a cool down on proxy wars, which basically means somehow curbing Russia's expansionist desires. But considering that those desires are driven by want of economic and strategic power, I actually doubt that will happen.
We'll be friends when one of us decides they don't mind not being an economic superpower.
Carter Cooper
>The intelligence agencies that said Iraq had WMD's says Russia hacked the election better believe them!
Hudson Rivera
You are friends with my dick you little faggot.
Zachary Moore
Network engineer here. Never saw even one remotely good piece of evidence that Russia was involved. It boiled down to "phishing attacks are so complex, and the security was so good, that only Russia could do it."
Well did you see how the server was setup? Did you see how the DNC emailed new passwords to each other after thinking or finding they were compromised? Did you read the articles about "Trump's Russian server" or the recent "intelligence report"?
If you know IT you are in for a laugh, but it sounds like you don't so you just post things that make zero sense.
Lincoln King
The biggest tell is that the intelligence agencies are in unison agreement.
Intel agencies never 100% agree on everything. It's bullshit.
Leo Wilson
All-Source Analyst. Did some, but very little HUMINTing. And nah I just can read and keep it objective when it matters.
Also as far as what we should do, we would ideally have to be honest as possible with each other. Cooperating with less false pretenses. Maybe some concessions from NATO or in the middle east as far as allies go but not enough to slight the U.S. but that would likely not solve many major issues.
I personally think that the power struggle is just part of the world stage and will continue like this for some time, but it doesn't mean that Intel folks should do thier job or that we go to war.
>why do so many people like them.
Mostly memes, partly legit grievances, partly Bearshills, and partly because it's cool to have a "rage against the machine" mindset here.
But definitely mostly a lack of understanding. Like I said before, it's healthy for the country to question and Hold its institutions accountable but the people that just shut out any possibility of foul play are no better than the SJWs they crusade against.
Jeremiah Hall
Shouldn't*
the scrutiny just comes with the territory.
Jace Clark
Maybe if you faggots would stop putting your name on fake news you wouldn't get such blowback. How fucking stupid are you people, apparently 7 degrees from mit doesn't mean shit when it comes to common sense.
Tyler Turner
Serves you right, you picked the fight now take your lumps like a man.
Lincoln Perry
>DNC emailed new passwords to each other after thinking or finding they were compromised
kek fucking what that cant be real
Charles Scott
Calm down. You're online.
Didn't say the IC was perfect. Alot of moving pieces and alot that can go wrong. Alot of smart people and some not so great. If I had the choice I wouldn't have released shit yet. But 20/20 I guess.
It's a huge ass telephone game with the media and IC as well. This combined with the fact that intelligence successes are never reported while failures make for the best headlines have helped craft our public climate that we have. But like I mentioned it comes with the territory.
Just saying.
Adrian Wilson
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Sage'd and reported
Slava Rossii
Henry Thomas
>yes, good goy, don't question the CIA methods, it's part of the (((national secret))) :^)
Liam Turner
Don't start, Pierre. Don't wanna have to roast you. I love french wimminz
Benjamin Hall
Here's one example I found real quick. On mobile atm and don't have the better ones.
