Ancap is the biggest red pill, and statism is a lie perpetrated by the jews who want to keep you in line

Ancap is the biggest red pill, and statism is a lie perpetrated by the jews who want to keep you in line.

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what about the ((((ROADS)))?

Where we're going, we don't need (((roads)))

>thinly veiled memeball thread

I'll bite.

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>that horrible PS
Albania, what the fuck did you do?

i like ancap but I realise its an absolutely horrible idea and should never be implemented feelsbad.
Any other political ideology that puts freedom similar to the wild west whilst still retaining capitalist values?

medeival iceland

Take this rare one

what you saying to me amerifat?

>libertarians won the presidency!

youtube.com/watch?v=CsRUOQG92Bw

>(((ancap)))

you win

Ancap is the *second* biggest redpill.

One you realize that every scrap of real property on the planet suffers from "clouded title" (ie has been violently stolen through conquest), the ethical underpinnings of capitalism crumble away. What remains is the final redpill: all that can be justified are either communism (just more statism), or true anarchy where owning even the simplest form of property is a brutish matter of might makes right. "Property is theft."

> t. I've been here for a year now. It fucking sucks.

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Ancap doesn't recognize "intellectual property". It's an oxymoron.

Try again.

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> I AM FREEEEEE :DDDDD LEEL

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ansoc is the biggest red pill actually

You better not steal if you don't want a tactical nuke tossed at your house for breaking the NAP

Somalia is down and to the right my friend

>A failed socialist state
hmm...
thank you for your insight, italy.

This guy gets it.

Once upon a time;
Now there's no government, no roads, only you with your AK47 and everything you can claim as your property, niggers and passing-by ships included

Fucking google is making me identify street signs. Death to roads.

Who would build the damn roads?

>Once upon a time
Enough to wreck a nation
People and communities who would profit from them.

Road workers? Who else?

I don't see you making an argument. Now let's sing along

WEEEEEE
DRINK AND PILLAGE AND WE DO WHAT WE PLEASE
WE GET ALL THAT WE WANT FOR FREE
WE'LL KICK YOUR ASS AND RAPE YOUR LASS
SOMALIAN PIRATES WE!!!
SO WITH A YO OH OH

Little known fact: Roads in Ancient Rome were privately funded and maintained. Olive trees planted along side them were used to pay for it's maintenance, anything left over was taken as profit by the owner.

tu quouque

this is the stupidest thing i've ever heard. The legionaries were maintaing them.
Of course, also, you've never even seen an olive tree in your whole life probably.
I'm curious, on what meme forum did you read that?

pffft goddammit people

>WITH A YO OH OH!

Legionnaires build SOME of the roads which were then sold/leased to private interests who were expected to maintain them. Weather or not I've seen an olive tree is irrelevant.

Provide source.

*whether

Well known fact: as part of earning citizenship and land grants from the state, ancient Romans engaged in military service. One common task given to these soldiers was road construction and maintenance.

As a result of this policy trade flourished, with the single biggest negative result of the Roman being the cessation of road maintenance and therefore of trade.

*of the Roman collapse

>tu quouque

Benito really made a toll on these people

Of course, the practice of citizenship for service was replaced with salaried soldiers long before the collapse of Rome, since the practice was predicated on constant expansion.

I happen to live right by the Via Appia (where Spartacus was crucified), and my family owns more or less 300 olive trees.
You can barely cover the expenses, with the oil, for sure you can not pay for making the craftmanship work that is a Roman road. Which btw is a hell to built, was made by the public (legionaries), but defies the millennia.

There were three main types of roads.

1. Viae publicae, consulares, praetoriae and militares (these were publicly funded)
2. Viae privatae, rusticae, glareae or agrariae (private roads)
3. Viae vicinales (roads within cities that were maintained by the land owners at their expense)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_roads

this confuses and alarms the statist

How about less materialistic capitalism?
I mean, the system alone won't do it, it's just a base. But we can work from that
>this is what religions were actually used for

>i don't wanna be a plantation slave to the gub'mint! I wanna be a plantation slave to corporations!
Ancap in practice, not theory.

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>tfw im a billionaire ancap warlord but my bodyguards start hiring hundreds of assassins to attempt to kill me to force me to jack up their pay until i'm completely broke

isnt the other name of ancap, confederationalist neo-feudalism?

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AAAaaah so you call "road" the muletracks inside villages that can be maintained by the people who lived there... but from one village to another (4/5 km, in the sweet meditrranean weather) it was still made by the public power, you illiterate fuck.

Now take the thing to the scale of Canada and maintain a road from Leafville to Cucktown (100km of frozen tundra).

Really, Somalia would look like a paradise in comparison to Ancanada. You'd be eaten by wolves the first winter.

You sound like a massive commie.

>who else?

The local government.

>when done incorrectly destroys the rest of the road

Makes you think.

> family owns more or less 300 olive trees
That's pretty nifty. I'm sure the price of olive oil has fallen by quite allot over centuries though, things being mechanized and all. Plus, slaves were a thing so labor wouldn't have cost as much.

>statism is a lie perpetrated by the jews who want to keep you in line.

explain natsoc.

roads are only the surface problem of ancap, the larger problem is that there is no way of solving issues nonviolently within society any more

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Well they might pay for it but weather it's public or private, road workers are going to be the ones building the roads.

We have private highways in Canada (the 407 for instance) that are nicer than the public ones, so there goes that theory.

>Not bringing your own roads

you thought this long and hard, but
> 1 slaves still need to eat
> 2 without machines (i've done this) picking olives is a hell of work that takes 10 peoples x 10 h x 5 days (ONLY the picking, maintenance would be daily work for 1 person, not counting the biannual pruning which is a total pain)
> 3 we do it for self-consumption, for us and for 5-6 families of friends that buy directly our oil. That's how much production there is, and i'm talking modern agriculture.
Really, the self-production world is poverty. You eat healty stuff, of course, and with machinery you don't mind working, but that's not really self -sufficiency anymore, right?

Why do i do this on a olive-picking neapolitan website? Because i made a point of sharing my knowledge everytime I can. You welcome.

not a good fix

John Locke's ideas on property are pretty interesting. Basically you can only own property absolutely if there is other equivalent land that others could claim instead. If there isn't then you owe society a some of money in proportion to the utility and scarcity of the resources you have claim over. This would be precisely the rent you could charge to someone for the land. It's the basis of Georgism and pretty interesting imo.

So def not Aleppo.

One more point; The government spends billions "maintaining" the roads. Most of the money is wasted. The private roads are maintained for a fraction of the cost. There is no limit to the incompetence of the government. Private interest tend to spend their money far more efficiently as they can't just tax you if the spend too much. Plus, they are dependent on their customers to provide their revenue voluntarily so there is more incentive to provide quality.

here's a quick search that destroys your example, now fuck you, it's late here, and for you it's time to grow up from your ancap phase

Those are all good points. I recall that one of the reasons for the olive trees along roads was to maintain the soil integrity. So, perhaps the olives merely offset the cost of maintenance (I have no idea how much it cost to maintain accident roman roads, so, yeah) and the rest was made up in tolls on merchants. Some how they managed to maintain private roads.

How do I sound like a commie? Saying that people benefit from roads?

If there was no other option private interest would have been able to raise the capital to build the road in the first place and regardless it's still a private highway. I have no illusions about implementing ancap, in the world, as it is today. People are just not ready for it. I'm just saying it's not the craziest idea ever. I believe the less government the better. Have a good night.

>TFW I drove the entire length of the 407 when I visited ontario and never got billed

>he beat the system
good one.

only googles need state to build roads, intelligent people gather themselves to build roads

That's why we kill the kikes and shitskins, and then establish some form of libertarianism.

Think about it like this:

The west was once a beautiful forest, but now, it's being fucked up by invasive species. So we burn the forest, or establish NatSoc/Fascism in the west. After, we replant the trees and shit in the forest, or establish paleolibertarianism or some similar system.

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