Why did Europe just let Constantinople get taken...

Why did Europe just let Constantinople get taken? I think we can trace back the history of Europe getting cucked by Islam to this one event. It was what let the mudslimes get their foot in the door.

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Destruction of eastern orthodoxy.

Because it was a war between Greeks and Turks.

Would fight somebody's else war? (You won't because you're a NEET).

They let it happen because they didn't consider the Byzantine empire as European/Western. The West stopped in Austria for them. Later, with the contact with Islam, the European peoples felt more as a group than before and only there, the idea that the Eastern part of Europe was Western too started to rise.
This is also why Western and Eastern Europe are so different. It considers itself as a bloc only because of the opposition between christianism and Islam.

isnt
that
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song???????????????

>Europe

At that period the nord niggers were busy to pilladge the central europe

>visogoths consolidations of conqured land
took a whilw until europeans put their hate aside and united.

Because the English and French allied with kebab during the
Russian imperial - Ottoman wars.
Had that not happened the Muslims borders in Europe today would be Sweden and Egypt

how long did it look like that, because it looks so fucking beautiful

Thanks veneto for destroying Byzantine trade you were the Jews of Europe for centuries

(((Disraeli)))

>Byzantine
Multiracial state without anti-miscegenation laws tolerant to jews? Good riddance

about 400 A.D I estimate Plz Google it

In answer to your post OP it was the Catholic Church. They were butthurt that an Eastern Orthodox city was grander and more sophisticated than the hovels they called cities.

because european history is not some great epic eternal war against muslims

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>because european history is not some great epic eternal war against muslims
>that flag
>tfw

Because it was europeans that rekt Byzantine in the first place
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Crusade
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Empire

>john meme sobieski

but Constantinople was roman clay my greek friend

1-muh yuropean brothers are a modern invention, just like romanticism.
2-They were busy fighting their own wars.
3-The pic related, it was surrounded.

your ancestors were far more pragmatic and less romantic than you imagine, le famous remove kabob poles for example, allied with ottomans for centuries after the battle of vienna, against the christian russia

>Byzantine was homogenous Hellenic supremacist state
Good joke, Ömgur

This is what is funny in this story. All the peoples who compromised with Ottomans got fucked, to start with the Ottomans themselves.
Karma is a bitch.

almost every major nation compromised with ottomans, french, brits, even russians. People bitch about how Russia would destroy ottocucks if not for the Crimean War, but they forget how ottomans sided with Russia when Britain supported Egyptian rebellion.

Ottomans literally extended their lifespan by a century by playing both sides.

If only they manned up and solved the issue there and then we'd never have to deal with these stone age fucks infesting our countries

>italian education

The fall of Constantinople took place centuries after even Scandinavia had become Christian. Also you do realise that Venice played a huge part in killing the Byzantine Empire, right?

>your ancestors were far more pragmatic and less romantic than you imagine

my ancestors walked to the Holy Land, facing infinite hordes of murdering heathens with only a true miracle from God being their only hope for survival....
But return they did

Now go watch netflix Americunt.

>All the peoples who compromised with Ottomans got fucked
nearly every country in history got fucked once or more

>Italians
Result of the civic """""nationalism""""". Just fuck my genetics up. Look at the fun math I did. Italy is a pure example of need for one drop rule eugenic enforcement.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CRQPn1KdgaiLxdxqxuJeiqLFUH5jnaaoqlDeQTuuVlU/htmlview

The data for Northern Italy confirm that Piemonte, the region which received massive immigration from southern Italy, has the lowest scores (although not low) among the northern regions.
[The average score for northern Italy (minus Piemonte): Lombardia, Emilia Romagna, Valle D'Aosta, Veneto, Friuli Venezia Giulia, Trentino, Bolzano (Sud Tirol) is 512, which compared to a British score of 494, is equivalent to a Greenwhich IQ of 102.93.
Piemonte= 499
Northern Italy-Piemonte= 512-499=13.
13= 2.2 IQ points.

So about 30% southern admixture in Piemonte lowered the IQ by 2.2 points. Thus the genotypic difference between Northern and Southern Italy is 2.2/0.3= 7.33 IQ points.

Note that this calculation assumes that there was zero southern admixture in the rest of North Italy. This is false, as other northern regions received their share of southern migrants, about 10%. Thus the real N-S difference would be even larger.
Of course this is based only on Pisa Math. More accurate results would be given by using other scores as well. Not only these southern subhumans are stupid, they are inbred too. Arguably a levantine-arabic trait they do have in common with their even more subhuman ancestors
Italy IQ 102/99 (95/92) Basilicata (-/89) Bozen/South Tyrol (-/100) Campania (-/87) Emilia Romagna (-/97) Friuli-Venezia Giulia (-/100) Liguria (-/93) Lombardy (103/96) Piedmont (99/96)Puglia (-/88) Sardinia (-/87) Sicily (-/86) Trient (-/99) Tuscany (99/-) Veneto (102/99)

And in 1920, they all agreed to apply the Sèvres treaty to dismantle them, I am not sure that the Ottoman game was flawless.

You kind of left out the informal alliance of the early Netherlands with the Ottomans against the Spanish.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liever_Turks_dan_Paaps

LMAO they asked for the sack, venetians were even too good

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Latins

your crusader ancestors were christians who butchered fought and raped other christians, where do you think the average christian soldier got his experience before holy wars? mostly against other christians with few being against pagans in mid and east europe and muslims in spain

Read ecclesiastical letters during the era, I wish I could cite directly but one of them literally says 'many towns are being burned, many priests are being killed and many church property is being seized let these savages rape and butcher the pagans there rather than staying here"

again you are looking at past in a very romantic and post french nationalism sense. Same with muslims

they hold saladin to be some chivalrous pious man while he was basically a sociopath who butchered his way into power, and I would say he killed same if not more amount of muslims as he killed Christians.

Another chivalrous character, El Cid was basically a warlord for pay who fought for whomever, he sided with muslims to kill christians, he sided with christians to kill other christians, he even sided with muslims to kill other muslims.
well you can trace it back down to mohammad or the origin of semitic religion, What If scenarios are broad
I would say lasting until 1920 is an achivement in it itself. They should have been dismantled in 18th century.

It reminds me of the aristocrats/nobles, who hold very miniscule power compared to bourgeois and industrialists but still managed to kept themselves alive throughout 19th century

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All that's already been said. But also because Orthodox literally said they'd rather be under muslims than Catholics, giving a big fuck you to Roman church which would've organized their rescue.

>haha it's okay when we do it xD

nigger

They held off the Ottomans for years and eventually lost backing and 1/3-1/2 of their population due to the plague.

It was a worst case scenario

>soon

Daily reminder that the leftist cucks that have invited hordes of foreigners into Europe have strengthened the bands between actual Europeans more then ever before in history.

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>Osman Bayezid Osmanoglu, the 44th and last >head of the Ottoman family, died Friday at the >age of 92 in New York, The Daily Sabah >reported.
>With the passing of Osman, there now >remains no heir to the family that once ruled >the vast Ottoman Empire, as he never married >and had no children.

This dude on Friday 6th, last week.
Way to let the empire down, not having any kids.

>he never married >and had no children
AHAHAHAHAHA

WHAT
A
KEK

Holy shit.
How much does he have to hate himself to do this?

W E W
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Hast la vista, we outlived your empire! Fuck you

>it's okay, we massacre thousands of venetians civilians because fuck commerce
>SHIEEET they come back to rape us, bastards venetians, we did nothing wrong

>All this beautiful architecture and no power grid. >Literally living like cavemen.

I'm so thankful to live in the time we live now. No matter how far technology advances, nobody thousands of years from now will ever say, "2017 they were literally cavemen"

The Merchant of Venice

Daily Reminder that OP is wrong, The Crusade of Varna my friend

sillly user

there are no rules

because the catolic church considered the ortodox church a greater enemy than the islamic turks

also venetian shenanigans

> Implying you ever read one Medieval document yourself.

nice try communist

Crusade of Varna was a disgrace
>attack ottomans breaking a peace treaty
>lose

from little tribe to one of the biggest empires in world history

nobody could stop ottomans in their prime time

>this factually incorrect map again

wasn't it because a Greek guard accidentally left a gate open?

>Looks like a bacterial infection spreading out across the earth
Makes you think

Turks were a more valuable ally than the byzacucks.

There was no EU back then

>that flag
>that post

from inner anatolia to the gates of vienna TWICE

conquered and controlled all land between modern day turkey and vienna

Except you painted the whole Croatia, even the half you never got. And guess what? We're more western that Vienna.

>1566
>ukraine
bs

europe wasn't a thing back then retard, the byzantine empire was shit and people outside of the balkans didn't care

and if you're trying to make fun of europeans, remember that back then all your ancestors were still in europe, unless you're some sort of abo mutt

this is not our painting. this gif is from english wikimedia based on common accepted (western) historians.

also, look carefully modern day croatian adriatic sea coasts are not painted. some parts of crotia is painted including ottoman vassal states.

The people of Constantinople were literally heretics.

crimean khanate you moron.

apperantly they only teach you the time of ottomans decline in schools. they don't teach you ottoman rising age.

even ottomans raided and pillaged modern day poland many times during 1500s including warsaw province.

The Pope wanted the destruction of eastern orthodoxy and was busy getting rich from Venice.
For the same reason the 1204 sack happened.

yeah, they got raped by us

Constantinople was a dying dog

They were lucky to last so long

Thanks for the input Ahmed

"Europe" isn't a real poltical entity you moron

venetia and ottomans were constantly allied and traded during 1500's this is why you partly survived. croatians were nothing compared to ottoman power during ottoman rising time.

Traitor cucktholic crusaders.

>crimean khanate ever extending that far into ukraine
bs

>For the same reason the 1204 sack happened.
You should really read how much of a clusterfuck that crusade was. In fact, the crusading army was excommunicated multiple times for attacking Christian states because Venice wanted its money by any means necessary. Also, the Massacre of the Latins didn't help.

You conquered Slavonia, but were stopped some 50 kilometers from our capital, which is in central Croatia, far away from coast. You were forced to go north thru Hungary towards Vienna.

>(((western historians)))
Of fucking course.
So the map is still wrong. Consider the record corrected.

Get the idea that Constantinople was a bright, burning star that the Ottomans extinguished out of your head

Constantinople was a shell of its former self and had been a several hundred year decay when the Turks took it. Whole swathes of city weren't inhabited.

Protip: It was Crusaders who irreparably fucked Constantinople and sent it on a spiralling decline

Istanbul not Constantinople

Constantinople in 1453 was probably dirty and falling apart

A city can't survive as a rump micro state

The only reason all those Byzantine buildings still stand today is because Constantinople became the centre of a strong empire

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podolia_Eyalet

kys you asiatic crypto-mudslim

read history of PODOLIA ignorant

>1672–1699
also not crimean khanate

never forget Vladislav Varnenchik 1444

That's nobody's business but the Turks

This is true. In fact, all from the fall of Rome to the XVIIth, XVIIIth centuries is basically ignored in European schools.

not in the northwest roach, you could not conquer us
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Szigetvár
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sisak

>from the fall of Rome to the XVIIth, XVIIIth centuries is basically ignored
HA
Fat chance

We spend most of a year in both elementary and high schools learning about our fights with Huns and Ottomans from 11th to 17th century.

>us

maybe in belgium

Of course it's a fucking anglo.

We were all Christians then, and you as in Italians are way more to blame than anybody else for not helping defending Constantinople enough.

See:
And if you're implying we didn't fight under Austria at Vienna, you're dead wrong.

Go away non country.

Ok, I will keep in mind this is true only for cucked Western Europe.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Ottoman_Muslims#Croatia

>tfw the only Russian in the thread is cringy as fuck
Purge when.

Because happy (((merchants))) of Venice used the crusaders to take out their competition by bribing them to attack Byzantines instead of mudslimes.

Constantinopol didn't have enough time to recover from this Venetian attack to defend itself against the Turks.

So yeah once again a great christian civilization was destroyed by the (((merchants))).

They literally launched a crusade to take shit back you retard

>we dindu nuffin

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Latins

And ended up plundering Constantinople, great job.

Just a reminder that Pope forbid this and excommunicated the crusaders before they even went to Constantinople. Sacking happened because King they helped return to the throne didn't pay them as promised.

all lies. we fought bravely against superior forces and won every fight. we are warriors etc :) you were totally irrelevant except some trading business

Byzantines were the true Roman successors, not you canal niggers