Is free health care too Christian a concept for a godless society like America?

Is free health care too Christian a concept for a godless society like America?

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My mistake. I'll delete that shit I posted.

On the contrary, when you get a disease it's God telling you it's time to go. Medicine is the work of the Devil as it interferes in God's plan.

Nothing in this world is free. My Canadian bro has been on a waiting list to see a psychiatrist for nearly 2 years now.

>free

Wow I love it when people spam threads over and over again. It really makes me think.

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When you receive something without having to pay for it, it's free.

The U.S. military receives planes, aircraft carriers and housing for free. Why not citizens too?

OH fuck, I had a feeling there was something odd about this thread

>free health care

Damn, Jewmany. How do you keep losing wars with such a brilliant mind?

this is just hilarious :D

it's not free tard

Germany might be onto something. We should all get free everything! We should all get free money, and food, too. That means nobody would ever have to work, and we would be living in a utopia! We wouldn't even need electricity, because we could give ourselves free light.

Can someone explain to me how to delete a post

fake news

Jesus was not a socialist. He favored voluntary charity, and even said "Who am I to take?". The religious Christians in the U.S provide more charity and run hospitals on their own based on charity and community giving. The left does not believe in that and thinks that government is God, and therefore they have the right to take anything they want from you to pay for the expenses of others.

Are you fucking retarded?

How do you think governmental services are funded? By the citizens of the state; if the state then gives the citizens services funded via funds that were forcibly taken from them then it isn't free.

The scenario you gave is disanalogous because citizens don't receive planes and aircraft carriers. Housing is not free because citizens pay for it.

He should just get a free psychiatrist then.

>majority soon will be niggers
>country can supply "free" shit
Yeah no

Oh, so it's ok to throw billions on the military for free toys, but not on citizens to receive health care?

Got it.

suuuuure

>Oh, so it's ok to throw billions on the military for free toys, but not on citizens to receive health care?

When did I make such a statement?

After all this time, objectively autistic people still refuse to understand that by free healthcare, we mean free at the point of use. Do you subhuman mouthtbreathing cunts actually think we don't understand how taxation pays for our healthcare? No wonder you shit eaters actually pay a fortune in tax for health on top of your insurance and still get fucked over.

Remember that book where Jesus rounded up a bunch of soldiers and tax collectors and forcibly redistributed wealth to cover Rome's medical bills?

I would submit to you that socialized healthcare is actually contrary to the notion of charity. Charity is the act of willingly giving your wealth to help those less fortunate. There is no willing act with socialized medicine, your wealth is being taken with the force of the state and you make no choice to help others.

You literally responded to the post where I pointed out that the military is overfunded while the general populace can't afford health insurance.

Remember how Jesus himself provided free healthcare to anyone who asked?

>“A woman who had been bleeding for twelve years came up behind Jesus and barely touched his clothes. She had said to herself, ‘If I can just touch his clothes, I will get well.’ Jesus turned. He saw the woman and said, ‘Don’t worry! You are now well because of your faith.’ At that moment, she was healed.” Matthew 9:20-22

>“Jesus went to every town and village. He taught in their meeting places and preached the good news about God’s kingdom. Jesus also healed every kind of disease and sickness.” Matthew 9:35

>“Is it easier for me to tell this crippled man that his sins are forgiven or tell him to get up and pick up his mat and go on home? I will show you that the Son of Man has the right to forgive sins here on earth. So Jesus said to the man, ‘Get up! Pick up your mat and go on home.’ The man got right up. He picked up his mat and went out while everyone watched in amazement.” Mark 2:9-12

>“As he was going into a village, ten men with leprosy came toward him. They stood at a distance and shouted, ‘Jesus, Master, have pity on us!’ Jesus looked at them and said, ‘Go show yourselves to the priests.’ On their way, they were healed. When one of them discovered he was healed, he came back, shouting praises to God. He bowed down at the feet of Jesus and thanked him.” Luke 17:12-16

>“After Jesus said this, he spit on the ground. He made some mud and smeared it on the man’s eyes. Then he said, ‘Go and wash off the mud in Siloam Pool.’ The man went and washed in Siloam, which means ‘One Who Is Sent.’ When he had washed off the mud, he could see.” John 9:6-7

But maybe that was just very unchristian on his part. Got it.

Do you whinge like a bitch about all the infrastructure you use for "free" that your taxes also cover, you intellectually disabled moron?

Go on, cry about all the sewer lines you've paid for by force.

Then don't call it free. It isn't free.

FUCK why did I come back to this thread? See my other post and stop responding to this bait you fucks.

>It isn't free.

When you don't have to pay for goods or services received, that is, by definition, free.

Healthcare is not a right.

Protecting your rights from foreign adversaries (having a military capable of defending the freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution) is an obligation.

Jesus was not a socialist. He favored voluntary charity, and even said "Who am I to take?". The religious Christians in the U.S provide more charity and run hospitals on their own based on charity and community giving. The left does not believe in that and thinks that government is God, and therefore they have the right to take anything they want from you to pay for the expenses of others!

>There is no willing act with socialized medicine, your wealth is being taken with the force of the state and you make no choice to help others.

Also, if that is the case then I think the U.S. military should have to rely on charity too.

it depends if its a better system m8

if we get government healthcare and it sucks and causes people to die

then its not a good thing

if we have free market healthcare with good service and lots of competition

you might actually have a better result and outcome with poor people getting taken care of too

we just want whats best

It's free to access. It costs nothing when we use it. Sorry this upsets you so much. Maybe you should try to move to a first world country

The concept of free health care is dependent on the vast majority of the population living healthy lifestyles and not being overweight diabetes whales

>having a military capable of defending the freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution)

The very freedoms you don't get to enjoy because you're sick at home with cancer?

Got it.

We would have free health care by the one true church is the reformation never took place

And that's why you pay more than the rest of us for the privilege of being turned down by your insurance company and presented with a six figure bill while still paying for Tyrone when he turns up to the hospital with no insurance, right?

Anyone has a right to pay for healthcare, and doctors & hospitals will provide healthcare for you if you require it regardless of your immediate ability to pay, because doctors have sworn the Hippocratic Oath. That will however require that you pay them for your services.

Stealing is wrong and is the anti-thesis of Jesus' message.

>selling snake oil is advocating free healthcare

If you work you have insurance for yourself, your spouse, and your children. You only end up uninsured if you are trying to do the most menial labor possible. Tasks that are reserved for highschool students that are already covered by their parents. Those unwilling or unable to work should die.

no thats because government regulation stopping the free market with like thousands of layers of bureaucracy in the healthcare system

in america we only have like 2-3 different insurance companies if were lucky to shop from there should be like hundreds

they have secret deals and they charge whatever they want

>godless
They're actually jewish.

I love how Germany tried to defend communist doctrines but got BTFO by Sup Forums. Another day another conversion away from commienism.

Yes, he gave those things himself.
Socialized medicine is taking from your neighbor using the force of the state. Jesus never took anything from anyone.

>When you don't have to pay for goods
>It's free to access.

I'll let you two figure out where you fucked up from the snippets of text I provided.

It isn't free.

We're the most Christian white country in existence

Not believing in evolution doesn't make you Christian.

Capitalism is a Judeo-Luciferian concept, amigo.

>Jesus never took anything from anyone.

Jesus was a tax proponent.

>Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's

Sorry Chaim, Jesus was not a communist. Communists outlawed religion in their perverted society. Not gonna happen!

There's no logical connection between that statement and socialized medicine. He was just saying that you shouldn't ignore your obligations to your country and you should pay taxes. The sentence is in no way advocating socialized medicine, just that you should pay your taxes.

You are the one advocating that Jesus was a commie, and the best evidence you have to offer is that he said you should pay your taxes?

>Jesus was not a communist

" Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven." -- Jesus

Why haven't you sold your possessions yet?

You said: Jesus never took anything from anyone
Taxing literally means taking something from someone.
Jesus supported taxation.

Jesus provided free healthcare. Taxes should be used to provide free healthcare.

Muslims are trying to convert convict christians to their violent cult on the internet. Sad!

Jesus deplored stealing, it's in the 10 commandments, you numbnut.

I am selling my possessions continually and give to charity because I run a business. You're a sad sack who knows nothing about Jesus or theology.

I don't see why people have such a problem with universal health care.

Health care and Capitalism are incompatible. If you read about the basic tenets of Capitalism it talks about things like "market competition". Is there market competition in the medical industry? Fuck no.

If you're against universal health care, then please explain how you envision health care and Capitalism being compatible. Who or what decides the prices of the services?

>Is there market competition in the medical industry? Fuck no.
cuz people are too afraid to let it be

they think every1 is going to die so they never allow free market competition in healthcare

plus theres way too many sick people nowadays

????
He didn't collect any taxes. Caesar did.

Oh, so Jesus COMMANDS you to sell ALL your possessions, yet you refuse to do so, and in an effort to alleviate your guilty conscience you give to charity so that you still may call yourself a Christian?

Jesus wept.

This would actually work if it weren't for you moronic fucks who think that once shit's free, everyone would throw their henads up in the air and do nothing but....

Excuse me, nothing but WHAT exactly?

If nobody would work, there wouldn't be "stuff" in the first place.

If that "stuff" is "free" or not isn't really an issue.

It is up to the people to make "stuff" exiastant, wether it's compensated in a monetary sense or fucking not.

So if nobody "works" there would be no "stuff" to have in the first place hence it would become meaningless if it's free or not.

People want stuff, people fucking need stuff. (Yes, NEED STUFF, like food ffs)

So why do you think that if stuff were "free", people wouldn't want it to exist in the first place and JUST FUCKING PARTICIPATE IN THE MAKING OF IT.

>godless

only god's chosen people are worthy of free healthcare

the rest of the animals can fuck off and die already.

Sorry Schlomo, no one is commanding anyone to sell all of their possessions, on to sell their possessions and to give to charity. Jesus' command! There is a reason he said SELL = capitalism.

Jesus deplored stealing and deplored communists. Oops, turns out your troll thread got BTFO.

Reminder that """free healthcare""" means higher cost for shittier quality.

This is some super high quality bait. Well done my friend. I was actually a bit shocked.

Doctor spends eight years of medical school, resedancy, specialisation and a shit tin of money to become a doctor.
Spends more time and effort to become the best in his specialty.
Government imposes free healthcare for all citizens for all conditions. The doctor is paid in acordance with a government pay scale.
The doctor has to deal with a continual stream of welfare drones wanting to live a few weeks longer to get another welfare check.
The doctor looks st his life and decided that his remuneration is not equal to the effort he puts in and moves to a country with a free market medical system.

This happens, Australia has a lot of very good doctors that are from places like the EU, Canada, India. They left because the pay scales where not equal to the effort. Administrators usually made more than the doctors that did all the life saving.
As a hospital administrator running a regional hospital, I make less than half of what the doctors are paid, work less hours and have longer holidays and as a bonus, I'm not on call for anything less than a mass casualty event.

Free market medical gives a better quality of healthcare

I waited a year then missed my appointment.

I was too embarassed to call back so I guess I'm just gonna work with whatever I got going on

>SELL = capitalism

lmao literally retarded

They have socialized healthcare for the elderly so the private sector can graft the profits.

Good ol crony capitalism. Socialize risk but privatize profits.

Its more difficult to implement in a country such as the US.

But taking care of people is necessary, after all, 99% of leftism is mental illness.

If you think about it, hitler was a genius in investing in healthcare

It would cripple their economy. There are 90 million obese Americans. 1in 10 have diabetes ffs

>free

Merkel gtfo.

Why do you don't they just get insurance?

GOP is trying to make sure millions of Americans go without health care insurance this year.

>Being this blind to how the world works

Forcing people to give away their stuff defeats the purpose of the act. There is no love or mercy involved when someone is angry their money is being taken when they themselves may be struggling to get by.

A soldier being drafted, and a soldier signing up to protect the country he loves are two very different things.