Anyone else starting to think communism isn't that bad?

Anyone else starting to think communism isn't that bad?

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No. no one else but you, Boy-o

Nope

No. Under our current system I could have a commie-tier lifestyle on four hours a week.

I'm starting to think more neckbeards follow trump than they do marxism.

Sounds like shit to me, stop reading their ideals and read what they actually do in practice.

>total control be Jews
>slave labor camps
>community housing where up to 6 families share facilities.
>lack of enjoyable consumer goods, including things like blue jeans
>lack of food, every communist society has had starvation problems
>bread ques
What about that life sounds like something you would want? People are so reliant on capitalism without realizing it. But if it truly changed you be miserable assuming they don't just kill you for being a bad communist first.

Labor camps and mass starvation are sounding like a good idea, now that you mention it...

i honestly dont see the problem with any of this.

Communism:
>has never existed, despite multiple attempts
>every attempt leads to mass starvation of their own people
>is easily subverted through other ideologies
>solves no problems that other ideologies don't already solve better
>no clear solution to fix constant failures
>claims human nature either doesn't exist, or is easy to change
>fixes none of the cultural issues that would derive from total automation of industry

Fascism:
>no two fascist nations have ever gone to war with each other
>fascism has never had a mass starvation problem
>fascism has actually existed, and it fixes all the problems communism seeks to solve
>early fascist failures are easily solved by reducing aggression and warmongering, as shown by other successful fascist nations
>utilizes human nature by designing a system meant to take advantage of it
>fixes all of the cultural issues that would derive from total automation of industry

But what if actual decent human beans (whites) implemented the system instead of shit tier half breed and full breed mongols. A system is only as good as the people who compromise it. National socialism would have done shut in places like China but thrived germany.

Do you repeat this dreck in every commie thread like it's your job?

666 confirms that facism is bad and you're an anime watching weeb,

seriously why are facist supporters weeaboo degenerates? is it because you got bullied by all american football players in high school when you tried to talk to Stacey about anime you fucking soft serve bitch?

It would still fail. It only works in very small tribes where everyone personally knows each other.

I'll stop repeating myself when communism stops repeating itself

>goes to an anime image board
>complains about anime images
You guys are the cancer of Sup Forums

Fascism tends to have a mass starvation problem when their eneviable war thirst back fires and all there neighboring countries tell them to sit the funk down.

go live in a communist society for a year then come back and answer that question yourself.

you're both wrong ancap is best
after bitcoin passed 100 dollars it was pretty clear

The more I learn and read about Communism, the more I know it's pure evil born of a Jewish mind. The communists say one thing then do another, they don't wish to help anyone but themselves by convincing fools to aid them in replacing one set of elites for another.

>Russians aren't white

Also, you do realize Asians are smarter than whites?

It's not internally consistent.

It's about each man getting the product of his work right? So why in the fuck are you seizing the means of production Mr. MoneyBag's dad or grandad, or great grandad etc. worked hard to buy?

I have never seen a communist in these threads refute this shit. You guys just hate rich people. You have destructive envy. Communism is destructive envy on a societal scale. It's only good at dismantling.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1221064/Oppressive-grey-No-growing-communism-happiest-time-life.html

way to read all the post...

Communism is the ideal system, but it can only work if your leader is literally Jesus Christ or the whole X-men roster to keep dishonest people in check.

You have to go back

How many total defections to western states versus into communist states?

Chopper rides for commies.

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Stalin communism (1927-1953) wasn't half bad.

Absolutely fucking not, you disgusting faggot.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Soviet_and_Eastern_Bloc_defectors

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Western_Bloc_defectors

According to these, 123 defectors to NATO, 346 defectors to COMINTERN.

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>le commie joo meme
None of the main Soviet leaders were Jewish. Neither were those of the rest of the Eastern Bloc, with the exception of Hungary's Matyas Rakosi.
>slave labor camps
The GULAG system shrank enormously in the mid 1950s and was abolished in 1960. The remaining correctional labor facilities were largely for actual criminals.
>communal housing
From what I've read, housing space in the USSR and Eastern Bloc was on average notably smaller than the average in the West. However, single or dual family housing was much more common after the early 50s.
>starvation
The USSR had two serious famines. The last one was in 1947. Issues related to malnutrition after that famine largely were restricted to penal institutions in remote areas. The Eastern Bloc had some issues with hunger though, largely in the 40s and early 50s because of serious damage incurred in the war.

A lot of older Russians prefer the old days.

Nah they've learned nothing

No, communism was created by an autist jew and only retards and evil people still support this shit

USSR had a housing crisis, what with getting shrekt by the war, and rapidly urbanizing.

Soviet leadership also called for housing to not cost more than 10% of income. You get what you pay for still applies under communism.

So USSR needed a lot of cheap and FAST housing. Enter Brutalism (exposed concrete), and abundance of limestone.

I found the apologist

Is National Socialism fascism? Hitler revolved all of his political ideas based on what he thought worked best for his race, but Mussolini didn't even consider race as having any real biological basis. They don't seem like they should be grouped together.

No, national socialists are Strasserists and they got purged. Hitler was a fascist, i.e. National Corporatist.

You ignored like 9/10ths of my post

Did you notice it mentioned "notable" defections? Now check out what was happening around the 1950s, when they had to crack down on emigration especially in East Germany because they were having a brain drain. I don't remember any western nation having problems like that. Of course it is hard to mobilize the workers when you have fewer and fewer of them. 226,000 fled eastern europe for the west within the first 6 months of 1953 alone.

no

This is because western has an open society and is easier to integrate versus the closed eastern bloc. Good luck

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>Brazilian
>not an autistic mongrel

>one-post
>lazy, lazy one-post

>communism is revolutionary in nature
>revolutionary movements create refugees
>eastern europe was fulled fascist sympathizers and collaborators
>they ran
>implying this is a bad thing, or not self-evident
Really activates my almonds.

>Anyone else starting to think communism isn't that bad?
Nope, only a autistic faggot like yourself would think that.

No you faggot gas yourself

Not a communist. Just a history buff.

>>It's about each man getting the product of his work right? So why in the fuck are you seizing the means of production Mr. MoneyBag's dad or grandad, or great grandad etc. worked hard to buy?
If I had to defend them, it would be within that same "workers get what they worked for" framework. Did the great-grandson that inherited a company gets ownership of all the tools, the computers, the machinery, etc yes. Did he work for it? No. At best now this person is a manager, his job now is to rent out labor and milk them like farm animals and give them a paycheck at the end of the day to keep them going while the owner gets to take home whatever they made that wasn't paid out to them.

>I have never seen a communist in these threads refute this shit.

I don't really expect a good discussion on this board, much less a refutation of a point that probably (most likely) been spouted long enough to warrant a refutation. Every one of these threads a pro-commie point is made, then another dude refutes it with something like "it never worked, slavery, etc", then starts a comment chain reaffirming the previous affirmation.

>ONLY MORAL RESPONSE TO COMMUNISM

>Moral
>Nazism
lel is this what they call the horseshoe?

>implying this is a bad thing
I wonder why they cracked down on emigration then if it was such a good thing? Could it be that the standard of living was so much better in the west? According to your logic it was because they were fascists and collaborators. If that is so then why the crackdown on emigration?

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The majority of the top 1% have made their success within one generation. In the Forbes listing of the richest people the majority have earned their place themselves. Many successful companies are started by former workers that gained experience, saved their capital, and used their knowledge to improve their field.

No, and you are a traitor to your country. I hope you do get to experience a socialist brown shithole, because that is the only path communism will lead you too pleb.

Oh fuck, so much bait. Where to even begin...

So it wasn't that bad then, and it sounds pretty good to you from your mums comfy basement...

Shit lets follow this guy. He knows his stuff.

No. I'm quite content with my first world standard of living.

this guy knows...OP Venezuela awaits

You pretty much going this route america.

>MFW america going to be commie country in my lifetime.
I never asked for this.

>mfw putin has a stroke and the communist party gets ellected

Source on this bullshit

All of them should be Rothschild.

It's true. Around 80% (IIRC) of American millionaires are self made, and most of those families will lose their wealth within two generations.