ITT, post real ideologues who aren't corporate shills. i will start: Bernie Sanders
Hillary "Kek it's normal to be apologetic to wall street XD" Clinton is not allowed
Donald "Kek goldman sachs at treasury XD" trump is not allowed
ITT: Real ideologues
Sebastian Perez
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Jaxson Martin
>immediately sold out to hillary
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Dylan Murphy
>ideologue
Do you mean demagogue?
Gavin Davis
President Donald J. Trump
Bernie sold out to Hillary for a few shekels, his greatest weakness.
Leo Ramirez
He did not sell out to hillary, she just was close to his values than trump. he made hillary completely re-write her policy proposals and then he wanted to hold her to her words.
Try harder, trump shill. trump did not just support shills who ruin your country, he is a corporate shill himself
Nolan Jones
I will take corporate shill over an oblivious cocksucker like Sanders any day.
Jace Butler
t. Israel
Thomas Kelly
I will repeat myself.
He did not sell out to hillary, she just was close to his values than trump. he made hillary completely re-write her policy proposals and then he wanted to hold her to her words.
Try harder, trump shill. trump did not just support shills who ruin your country, he is a corporate shill himself. i bet you think paying 25 million dollars over a fraud scandal is "normal"
Nathaniel Mitchell
You should try harder Seth.
Bernie sold his silence as everything to Jews has a price.
Brayden Butler
fucking this
Joseph Martinez
What part of his proposals are you against?
Are you against free education?
Are you against free healthcare?
Are you against higher minimum wage?
The majority of americans actually support Bernie's policies
Julian Clark
if you consider ruining a nation a real "ideologue",
then I guess Bernie embodies what your looking for.
Logan Ortiz
repeat yourself all you please.
it won't make you right
Blake Collins
R O N
P A U L
>implying he wasn't threatened like Warren was
Grayson Cox
No refunds
David Richardson
Bernie never sold out and it's evident in his voting record and his honesty.
Preferring hillary over trump is not "selling out", they were both corporate shills but one of them was less monstrous than the other one
Jordan Roberts
he had some intresting ideas but sadly he isn't savvy enough to be a leader
Kevin Ramirez
>He did not sell out to hillary
He literally gave her all of his campaign money and campaigned FOR HER.
>he made hillary completely re-write her policy proposals and then he wanted to hold her to her words.
How hot is your crack pipe to the touch?
>I will repeat myself.
Repeating something doesn't make it a fact.
>i bet you think paying 25 million dollars over a fraud scandal is "normal"
Bernie is laughing at you from his 3rd vacation home
Nathan Reed
Your hypocrisy is disgusting.
Easton Murphy
Yes he did. Evidence proving his nomination was stolen was released and showed Hillary colluded against him, and he still backed her. That's called selling out Seth.
He was never a corporate shill. He was a communist shill who grew up in a Kibbutz that taught him to be a leech to society.
Adrian Ward
>Are you against free education?
yes
>Are you against free healthcare?
yes
>Are you against higher minimum wage?
mostly yes, but somewhat agnostic
Julian Morgan
Nothing in life is free.
A greedy jew like you should know this well.
David Bennett
That's not selling out.
He already said he prefers Hillary over trump
Also,
>a trump supporter complaining about bernie having a vaction home
KEK
Joshua Garcia
>Preferring hillary over trump is not "selling out",
Preferring? No.
Endorsing, funding, and campaigning for? Yes.
>they were both corporate shills but one of them was less monstrous than the other one
Agreed, considering the one that got elected wasn't simultaneously endorsed by the mainstream pantheon of wealthy celebrities and Fortune 100/500 CEOs
Aaron Gonzalez
Here's a true hero you fucking kike
Jonathan Myers
You Americans don't know what is good for you
Nathan Stewart
Ideology is cancer.
ARCHETYPES are the new hotness.
You have to find the golden ball.
Samuel Flores
the majority of americans also believe things can be free
Gavin Smith
Kek
Trump sold his daughter to the Jews
Logan Lopez
Except he sold out to Hillary.
Noah Rivera
That's not selling out you idiot. of course he will campaign for hillary over trump
He wanted Hillary to get elected and then hold her for her words just like what he is doing right now with trump
Kevin Howard
>That's not selling out.
Yes it is.
>He already said he prefers Hillary over trump
Because he's a sell out.
>a trump supporter complaining about bernie having a vaction home
>complaining
His supporters put themselves into bankruptcy to support him as a viable Hillary alternative and he sold them like cattle.
Besides that, you really think Trump supporters have an issue with Bernie taking his retarded socialist supporters to the bank, and then selling them out for a few rides on Clinton's private jet?
KEK
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Lincoln Morales
Universal healthcare exists in almost every single western country except for america
Republicans are like the radical-islam of the west when it comes to policy
Owen Morales
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Dominic Collins
He bent over and took it when he knew she was cheating him.
Adam Morris
>That's not selling out you idiot.
You can repeat yourself all you like.
He sold out
>He wanted Hillary to get elected
And failed.
>and then hold her for her words just like what he is doing right now with trump
Except Bernie is now irrelevant and has the clout of a dead mackerel.
He's one of the biggest "nobody" politicians this country has ever spawned, his most notable achievement was renaming a local baseball team "the reds".
Thomas Ortiz
Did Hillary ever pay 25 million dollars over a massive fraud lawsuit like what trump did?
Did Hillary have a shit ton of lawsuits in regards to not paying workers?
Did Hillary put goldman sachs shill in your treasury department?
Stop being retarded. in elections you need to pick between two options. if both options are bad but one is significantly better than the other, you should campaign the lesser evil
Nolan Hughes
None of those things would benefit me. Or my offspring.
They benefit the lowest common denominator who is too stupid to get a scholarship to college and/or too lazy to get a job that pays more than the minimum wage.
Landon Wood
Again, Stop being retarded. in elections you need to pick between two options. if both options are bad but one is significantly better than the other, you should campaign the lesser evil
You are an intellectually dishonest trump shill
Caleb Green
muh nigguh
Ryder Baker
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Leo Parker
I'm a fucking history teacher I know how much government money is wasted in schools. Niggers that dont want to be in class ruin it for everyone else with their constant antics.
Forced public education was a mistake
William Gomez
>Universal healthcare exists in almost every single western country except for america
Popularity=/= effectiveness.
James Gutierrez
>implying Hillary wasn't Goldman sachs puppet too
>Implying Bernie didnt go easy on
Hillary and immediately sell out
>Implying Goldman sachs didnt send out a company wide memo that employees are not allowed to donate to Trumps campaign or else they are fired
If Trump wants to be a successful president and get anything done, he has to kiss the ring. Bankers can crash the economy any time they like, it even makes them money because they can buy up all the cheap companies and land after the crash.
Dominic Murphy
The corruption reveal in the DNC emails are not even close to the corruption of Trump, and that's even though we did not get to see trump's internal campaign emails or his tax returns.
If trump revealed his internal emails and his tax returns, maybe you wouldn't be so enthusiastic supporting him anymore
Easton Flores
He did not sell out.
He just campaigned for the lesser evil you idiot.
Adrian Young
>'free' education (such as gendlosangeles.backpage.com
>'free' healthcare (such as laquanda the 390lb giganigress getting a hreat transplant) paid for by my taxes
>higher minimum wage (so sequuneisha the high school dropout with 3 kids get paid the same amout I started at after a college degree, to give me sass at the mcdonalds counter and fuck up my order.
Please fuck off chaim.
James Roberts
>The corruption reveal in the DNC emails are not even close to the corruption of Trump
Wrong.gif
I don't know why you're shilling here without a proxy. Foolish.
Charles Edwards
>Did Hillary ever pay 25 million dollars over a massive fraud lawsuit like what trump did?
Did Trump allow an embassy under his watch to get attacked by ISIS, after using it as an illegal distribution point for arming and funding moderate rebels in Lybia and Syria? Did he then blame that attack on a youtube video?
>Did Hillary have a shit ton of lawsuits in regards to not paying workers?
Did Hillary leak a shit ton of classified and confidential information because she violated the law and stored them on a private server who's passwords were shit like "password" and "user"?
>Did Hillary put goldman sachs shill in your treasury department?
Who did Goldman Sachs endorse during the election again?
Also, who did they specifically forbid their employees from supporting under their name?
>Stop being retarded
Stop shilling for a failed candidate.
>if both options are bad but one is significantly better than the other, you should campaign the lesser evil
He choose poorly, and yet the lesser evil still won. Cry more.
Evan Wright
Of course a Sup Forumstard will be against health and education for everyone, as i said earlier, you guys are literally the radical islam of policies
Adam Campbell
You must be functionally retarded if you think this guy wasn't just in it for the money
>lives entire life on gov paycheck
>net worth recieves tens of millions of dollars in donations practically overnight
>owns three houses and a porsche
>will be forgotten in five years and die a failure
>will always be remembered as the guy who lost to hillary
Let's talk about the One Freed Man instead
>spent entire life doing what he loved
>lifted chile from poverty with the power of his mind
>never took handouts
>lived in quaint forest cabin with qt housewife
>did original research with the love of his life for half a century
>did not retire until a week before he died at 90+
>immortalized forever through the power of monetarism
Xavier Cruz
>muh educated city folk urban retard meme
Kek
Alexander Watson
>you guys are literally the radical islam of policies
You're the one asking us to suicide our civilization to make way for your paradise.
Austin Morales
>Did Trump allow an embassy under his watch to get attacked by ISIS
Could trump do it? did he have an opportunity to do it? the answer is no. how do you know he wouldn't do it? you don't. and btw, the attack on the embassy was not hillary's fault it was the fault of the terrorists who attacked it. it might be shocking to you but more than ten different embassies were attacked when bush was president
>Who did Goldman Sachs endorse during the election again
Considering trump put FOUR people from goldman sachs in his cabinet, including the prestigious position of secretary treasury, i would say you are deflecting instead of looking at what a shill trump is
Hillary supported a higher minimum wage and her policy proposals were completely changed to get the endorsement from bernie. Bernie actually made Hillary a better candidate
Christopher Morales
>post real ideologues who aren't corporate shills.
>i will start: Bernie Sanders
I literally spat water all over my screen.
Good joke bub
Angel Lewis
>Free education and healthcare is suiciding a civilization guys XD
Keep being a trump shill
Blake Price
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Eli Reyes
Calvin Coolidge
True traditionalist conservative who operated the country on the goal of shrinking government spending and economic interventionism in every way possible. He believed that the American worker is the backbone of the entire country, that taxes are a necessary evil and that evil must be as restricted as possible. He desired for families, business owners, Entrepreneurs, and the like to work less for the government and more for themselves. He believed that true success is achieved through perseverance, claiming that many men have genius and talent, but too often fall short in their struggles of life because they simply lack the will to persevere through times of discomforting doubt and pain.
He was a patriot, caring not for the interests of other countries but only his own. He was a man who believed as the founding fathers did, isolationist as diplomacy, but globalist as economy. The deregulation of the American economy during his time prospered in a boom in the stock market, GDP, and wealth for all american peoples. The steady plan of free market growth would be planted in the redeeming years of the start of the great roaring twenties.
Lastly, he was a man that understood equality as well as racial pride. He advocated for women's rights as well as frowning upon discrimination of Africans in his country. He valued the homogeneity of his great nation and passed acts to prohibit the immigration of corrupt and different peoples from dark corners of the world.
In short, a great man who's ideology will be framed and put upon the wall of patriotism as a shining tribute to freedom, prosperity, and pride that will stand out among the many others that have been so honored to hold the most supreme power of this great nation.
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Joshua Lewis
>Belief in magic free stuff from nowhere
>Criticizes religion
Jaxon Peterson
I only came here to laugh at you.
Nothing else
Ayden Perry
>the attack on the embassy was not hillary's fault it was the fault of the terrorists who attacked it.
Terrorists she gave weapons and money.
>it might be shocking to you but more than ten different embassies were attacked when bush was president
How many times was it blamed on a youtube video to cover up a arms/money pipeline to terrorists?
>i would say you are deflecting
Wrong.
Answer the question.
Who did Goldman Sachs endorse and support- spiritually and financially- during the election?
Answer: Not Trump
>Hillary supported a higher minimum wage and her policy proposals were completely changed to get the endorsement from bernie. Bernie actually made Hillary a better candidate
I agreed, it revealed her complete and total economic ignorance and her shameless hypocrisy in literally trying to say anything to get elected.
I correct myself from earlier, his most notable accomplishment was helping to tank Hillary's campaign with his Venezeulan economic fantasies.
Benjamin Davis
Free education already exists in the form of elementary schools and high schools.
The question is how far do you want free education to be. bernie want it to go further
Joshua Richardson
No a lot of Sup Forumsacks like that shit, they just think it should be given to the homo-genetic white populous of Europe under a form of National Socialism
It's really only because kikes push it for migrants is why people oppose it
Jordan Taylor
>Coolidge loved niggers
Landon Perez
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David Jackson
Didn't love them, just thought that they shouldn't be lynched in the street because they were still americans
Dylan Martin
She did not give weapons to the people who attacked the embassy. about giving weaponry to terrorists, well, the obama administration tried to pick sides during a rebel instead of being completely uninvolved in the hope of spreading democracy. i agree it was controversial, but it was not "funding terror". let me remind you Obama bombed terrorists in average 3 times an hour this past year in seven different countries (not making this shit up btw)
Aniway, if you deny Hillary's actual policy proposals were closer to bernie than trump's proposals, you are being intellectually dishonest. of course Bernie would campaign for the lesser evil, what did you expect him to do to be politically uninvolved which would help the greater evil win?
Ayden King
>Free education already exists in the form of elementary schools and high schools.
These are disasters, by the way.
Bernie (and you) wants to make a bigger disaster.
People should have to either earn their way through scholarship and merit, or pay for college. As it is, colleges are summer camps for adults. It shouldn't be free.
Jason Adams
Bernie "Cuck My Shit Up" Sanders
William Scott
>having free elementary schools for children is a disaster guys XD
You should shut your mouth and never spread your retarded ideologies ever again. get out of my face, you are embarassing
Owen Flores
Trump sold out to Putin, and is a pee shill
Jason Adams
Holy kek
Colton Taylor
>Free education
No, that would be a fucking problem.
Our workforce is over saturated in work like lawyers & doctors, so spending lots of money for a degrees of half-assed people aiming at those positions (since they make alot of money) would be a heinous misuse of money. Alot of these hypothetical students would not be able to make a return on any of the investments spent on them. If your smart enough or see college as an investment you will have no problems with students loans. Especially with community colleges and scholarships available.
>free healthcare
Obamacare proved that socialized healthcare is not very well received. Bernie wanted to expand it and make it even more socialized. Our healthcare may be shit in some cases, but raping peoples wallets for lower quality care is way worse.
>against higher minimum wage
In quite a few states the minimum wage is high enough as it is. The price of living depending on state is very different. A national minimum wage in poor states would be very counter-productive.
The funny part is that the money of these projects would not fall on the rich. The richer a person is, the more options he has for hiding his money. You are going to have more incentives than ever to use overseas workers and factories, move your base of operations so you don't have to pay ridiculous taxes,& avoid paying any taxes on your personal earnings. This plethora of shitty ideas would fall onto the middle class and upper middle class to cover, it would end in massive taxes or massive debts.
Compare that to Trump who acknowledges that companies are strained enough as they are to keep work in America & you have a more sane set of suggestions.
Jackson Brooks
>Trump
>Sane suggestions
I wonder how much republican propaganda you consumed throughout the years to think trump's proposals are "sane"
Asher Wilson
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
Yea, it's a disaster. The quality of education is horrible. Sorry to burst your fantasy bubble with reality (again).
Aiden Jackson
OP IS THE MOST BASED JEW IN ISRAEL.
I wish you guys had Bernie Sanders as president
Asher Cooper
So propose to improve elementary schools instead of forcing poor people to get expelled you idiot
Jonathan Mitchell
That Image has been debunked, Princeton University did an entire study which shows that economic growth under democrats is nearly entirely circumstantial.
Conservatives also plan for a steady rate of growth that goes up slowly and is better for the long term.
Democrats are for quick term growth but unstable in the long term. However I do agree that """republicans""" today have awful economic initiatives
Princeton Study
>princeton.edu
Also I don't like reagan he was a neoliberal
Oliver James
Ron Paul and Bernie are the only real niggas you guys got
Luis Barnes
>this is the state of CIA memes
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Levi Robinson
>So propose to improve elementary schools
Government education has the same flaw as all government programs. There's no competition to pressure it into operating at a high level.
Competition is what creates good results. This is true in institutions and people and plants and bacteria.
Competition also requires that some schools will fail. Some people will fail.
Brandon Nguyen
Reagan wasn't president when the soviet union fell, or when the berlin wall was destroyed.
Daniel Brown
I hope every job created is for a Trump company, and every unemployed White American can labor for Trump
Let's Make America Great Again.
Brody Rodriguez
You realize they are literally opposites right?
Camden Mitchell
Based Friedman. Too bad the commies kicked the bucket and we got left to rot in socialist filth like the rest of this stupid continent
Benjamin Robinson
Jack Clark
> Avoid answering any responses on all the points the goyim mentions.
I see how you kikes operate. Trump may be wrong on a few issues that you did not point out, but how does that make Bernie a genius?
Gavin Thomas
He used his own tower to host his campagin office and he's legally required to pay its full rental value from the campaigns coffers.
Henry Harris
>kike
Fuck off, Ira
Ayden Harris
>thinks 600k house is hard to get with a 170k salary
Hope you enjoy school tomorrow.
Alexander Young
Maybe he'll use some of the money he got from Adelson.
Jaxon Gonzalez
I'd rather politicians fight over policy effectiveness than who is lying more.
Mason Wright
That shit is not free, you dirty jew fuck.
Connor Davis
Trump won. We got what we paid for.
Michael Anderson
The data has not been debunked, princeton university just blames it on "circumstances" instead of blaming it on republican policy
But Democrats are doing much better even if you look at it at the state level, which debunks the idea its just circumstances
Grayson Perez
You are but a baby
Isaac Carter
1. Trump advocating to send US troops into libya and killing gaddafi at 2011:
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2. Donald Trump advocating for open borders and globalism in 2013:
"We will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity when it comes to financial stability."
"We are now closer to having an economic community in the best sense of the term — we work with each other for the benefit of all," - That's literally trump supporting the same positions of the TPP
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3. Trump's true position on citizens united - literally embracing people from citizens united into his campaign.
Reminder that citizens united empowers the influence of corporations on the elections.
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Now anyone in this thread who is a trump supporter, kindly get the fuck . your hypocrisy is disgusting, you don't deserve to be in a bernie thread
Andrew Clark
*Now anyone in this thread who is a trump supporter, kindly get the fuck off
Colton Gonzalez
Ron Paul and Bernie. Maybe Rand, Amash, and Massie. Have to look into Gabbard.
Jackson Turner
Diossalvate chileno bro