Well, Sup Forums? This one always leaves you grasping at straws

Well, Sup Forums? This one always leaves you grasping at straws.

Two wrongs don't make a Right.

Grasp at THIS *unzips dick*

nope, Indians came from Asia

/thread

Wait, the fact that previous immigration to America caused the mass genocide of the inhabitants means I should be in favour of immigration now?

My almond is not activated.

not really.
you will have to prove they were here first and same for them as well as it's widely disputed who arrived on the clay before them
many pieces of land weren't even occupied by them or signed over by treaty

we claimed it officially by making the USA
just stay in Canada where sucking dog dick is a national sport

No it doesn't

America didn't exist before white people created it as a nation state.

Check Mate atheists.

Christians 1
Atheism 0

Like Australia, it wasn't immigration. White people took the land, native niggers put up a fight but get demolished, white people are generous enough not to wipe the entire population out. Native niggers just cry today whilst getting government handouts because their biologically limited IQ doesn't allow them to compete in today's world.

Settlers and pilgrims were not immigrants
They built civilisation from wilderness

Conquest and subjugation =/= immigration

Look at what immigration did to the native americans, we don't want that to happen to us too

Or do you not care about the plight of natives you bigot?

We fought a war of conquest, annihilated them, and took their land. It's ours now. We didn't "immigrate" we conquered.

Muzzies are welcome to try their luck.

>what is the cheyenne genocide

ya na bruv

Vikings were here first leaf.

they even look japanese

>indians migrated from siberia
>multiple waves of migration mean native populations consistently displaced by later siberian refugees
>undocumented siberian refugees were at constant barbaric war with one another
>Columbus sailed in 1492, the year after the Mudslimes were finally expelled from Europe
>if you are against displacing residents you are against white genocide

This ''argument'' only works with civic nationalists.
Good job exposing phony politically correct jew apologists.

When you press civic nationalists what you'll actually find out is that they do want less non-whites and more whites, just like any sane person.
They're not against immigration. They're against shitskins invading their countries.

They didn't build a wall and look what happened to them. Literally the worst argument

Or maybe we should learn the lessons of history, from what occurred. A native populace being overly tolerant of foreigners will lead to the foreigners overpowering the native culture and government. Unlike German cucks I don't feel the need to repent for shit I never did, but we should take lessons.

>pol btfo
>the same damn thing reposted every day
>one-post
>addressing a separate and monolithic pol

immigration and annexation are different

if anyone wants to try and take the land, they're free to try

THIS DOES NOT MAKE A CASE FOR MORE IMMIGRATION

I mean fucking hell are they incapable of rational thought

you can start by going back to your sand shithole amhed

I'm not an immigrant, I'm a conqueror

Make me, tanto

Have you ever lived around these people? I'm cherokee and these people are either violent alcoholics or greedy rich casino owners, not to mention the shitty neighborhoods filled with trashy houses and tweakers.

After old world diseases killed 90% to 95% of the the American natives you had an extremely small population laying claim to two continents worth of resources without the technological, industrial, or economic prowess to defend it.

Are you really surprised that they were conquered?

If Europe hadn't done it, then it would have been the Muslims or the Chinese or any of the other old world powers. The American natives got fucked by a quirk of geographic isolation, their fate was inevitable.

>settlers = immigrants

shiggy

We didn't immigrate; we conquered.

the natives were literally savages that didnt even have the wheel and barely could start fires.........theyre welcome

Aah, the left. In America, it supports the native people. In Europe, you are a racist for doing the same thing. Love this

The Indians did not sprout from the ground like the spring grasses nore did they coalesce from the eether, they immigrated from Siberia and each tribe has been looking eachother for thousands of years before the white man even set foot here.

They should have fought harder.

>grasping at straws

Nope. The natives were busy killing each other before we showed up. They did not have a nation. No government and no cultural cohesion. So....they did not have nation to steal. Merely land, and by that logic, every nation in history was built the same way.

But we are refugees from Europe, we have been persecuted for our religious beliefs and we seek asylum in your great lands
Now point us to the ficki ficki with your squaw daughter

>be a degenerate dirt nigger
>having a grand old time overpowering weaker tribes and being a cannibal
>whitey arrives
>overpowers muh tribe

I'm an immigrant? Pretty sure I was born here.

There was no nation to immigrate to. The original Europeans on this continent were COLONIZERS. Not immigrants. And before that there were Viking settlements all over the coast and inland that predate the Mongolian invasion by 5k years.

If Mexico can manage to invade and conquer the US and isolate the survivors in restricted zones, then fair play. AFAIC they've earned the right to live here.

Until then, go fuck yourself Paco (and Squatting Eagle Water Buffalo Dung).

>1 post by this ID
saged and reported

The man in that picture and his ancestors immigrated to this continent.

>grasping at straws.

The county is culturally european (and hispanic, to an extent) now. Natives have assimikated, theres no point.

indeed. They're siberian eskimo type people, which are asian. Just japanese and native americans refined their own thing from then on but they are still mongoloid.

From what I understand N. America was migrated on from 3 to 5 times. Asians were the last of the race mixing. The migrants would fight for land while moving south in to what is now the United States. Tribes would rape and pillage each other to make the shit stain that is "Native Americans". It's great how prairie niggers get upset over colonization when that's all they did in the past

Damn your stupid

We're against our nonwhite enemies entering our own countries, not against destroying our nonwhite enemies and replacing their primitive societies with a great nation. It's called the primal instinct to advance our own gene pool.

Men intuitively understand this, beta cucks don't. Now leaf, get back to manning the glory hole down in the Indian area of your city.

>Didn't believe in land ownership before whites

>Shiny beads

You can't blame whites and tarnish our name by association with Muslim/minority migration. Back then the explorers didn't know any better, they were traversing for fame or glory, or to outdo an opposing European country that would of began the migration anyways. Nowadays, its mass uncontrolled, and unnecessary, throngs of vermin fucks deliberately throwing the delicate demographic matrices of white western nations into whack.

So what you're saying is, if you can take something through force then it's rightfully yours ?

Would that be fair summation of your viewpoint ?

obligatory

>also saged for obvious "well Sup Forums?" bait

Im sorry but these people lived in fucking wigwams. Then people came and build towns, cities, schools, prisons, hospitals, bars.

If illegals came to my country and started building a society than the equation might hold up. This is just fucking pathetic bait and i hate you fo...

Wait -- OFCOURSE ITS A FUCKING LEAF!

>This one always leaves you grasping at straws.

You mean like how the Native Americans were completely fucked because they had absolutely no immigration policy and no borders?

Are you really this retarded?

Oehhh this is a good one. I know its uncharacteristic of this site but good job man!

The conquest of America was not immigration. Fuck off OP.

>Would that be fair summation of your viewpoint ?

Not the guy you're replying to but that's a fair summation of reality if not exactly an ethically solid viewpoint on how humans should behave. Evolutionary process dictates that the most fit destroy and take things from everyone else. Social Darwinism is somewhat different but largely the same but individual strength is abstracted into state authority so the process of natural selection is slightly modified.

This entire discussion hinges very heavily on an individual's personal value of life versus value of laws, personal success, and long term safety. The Native American comparison is heavily anachronistic on top of that rendering this entire discussion a clusterfuck that boils down to everyone thinking anyone with a different opinion is an amoral monster.

Let me tell you a little secret: The Native Americans lost what they had because they could not modernize. Japan went through something similar except their response was to expel foreigners from their lands and heavily regulate trade with them. Native Americans could not adapt, so Native American populations sharply declined.

It's not immigration if the land is taken by conquest. The Europeans fought the natives and won, therefore the land is theirs. Might makes right.

Natives didn't believe in ownership of the land for fucksake.

Top tier shitpost though.

>1 shitpost by this leaf

Compost the botanic jew

we took this land, we didn't just leech off of it

debate the ethics of it all day, but thank god it happened. Imagine this land covered in drunk redskins!

That's not fair user, their rate of alcoholism is not any higher than any other race.

It's just that the alcoholics they have are much worse.

I'm already trying and succeeding.

When you stop drinking.

They didn't build a wall. Look where it got them.

really? if whites were immigrants and killed te natives than we should learn from their death and don't let immigrants in.
if whites weren't immigrants they were conquerors, and the if the natives were worth existing they would have defeated the conquerors

Hungary didn't exist before Magyars settled it, England didn't exist until Anglo-Saxons settled it, France didn't exist until Franks settled it, America didn't exist before Americans settled it.

How is that hard to figure out?

We're just trying to learn from the mistakes of others.

>implying natives had borders or a concept of nation

Guess they shouldn't have been so ass backwards.

One thing that NEVER stops throughout time as long as mankind has existed; the conquering of the world one strip of land at a time. Either take it back or fuck off. We came, we saw, we conquered.

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oh fuck a sni-

My favorite is when migrants in Canada point to me as being guilty for "stealing" land from aboriginals.
I had no choice but to be born here, someone else made the concious decision to come here from a foreign country, yet this person doesn't see how by coming here, she's ought to have a guiltier conscience than me for making Canada less Innuit.

If you actually paid attention you'd know this one is easily debunked

You were killing each other for hundreds of moons before the first white stepped foot on this continent. The quantitative body counts, such as the proportion of prehistoric skeletons with ax marks and embedded arrowheads or the proportion of men in a contemporary foraging tribe who die at the hands of other men- suggest that pre-state societies were far more violent than our own.

Indigenous factions annexed land from each other all the time. Say you give the land back to the Blackfoot: Are they in turn going to give back the land they stole from the Sioux ? And then are the Sioux going to give back the land they stole from the Cheyenne?