BEIJING: China's official media today warned of a "large-scale war" if the US blocks it from accessing the artificial islands China has built in the contested South China Sea, a day after secretary of state nominee said Washington should deny Beijing access to the new islands.
In a scathing editorial titled "Is (Rex) Tillerson's bluster just a bluff for Senate?" state-run Global Times said his comments were aimed to "curry favour from senators and increase his chances of being confirmed by intentionally showing a tough stance toward China".
In testimony before the Senate, Tillerson who is nominated by President-elect Donald Trump for the post of Secretary of State, likened China's island-building in the South China Sea to "Russia's taking of Crimea".
The new US government would send China a clear signal that "first the island building stops, and second your access to those islands is also not going to be allowed," he was reported to have said.
"It is not clear which point, among the many he made, he will prioritise. But it is worth looking at his remarks that China should not be allowed access to the islands, since this is the most radical statement from the US side so far" the editorial said.
"China has enough determination and strength to make sure that his rabble rousing will not succeed. Unless Washington plans to wage a large-scale war in the South China Sea, any other approaches to prevent Chinese access to the islands will be foolish," it said.
Another official newspaper, the China Daily said: "It remains a question whether Tillerson, former Exxon Mobil Corp chairman and chief executive, as secretary of state will get through Senate scrutiny."
"If he is appointed, it remains to be seen to what extent his views against China will translate into US foreign policies. After all, what we heard at Wednesday's confirmation hearing before the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee was essentially his personal policy inclinations," it said.
"Not only were his views divergent from, even contrary to, those of Trump on some critical issues. He openly conceded he is yet to have a serious, in-depth discussion with Trump on foreign policy imperatives," it said.
"Such remarks are not worth taking seriously because they are a mish-mash of naivety, shortsightedness, worn-out prejudices, and unrealistic political fantasies. Should he act on them in the real world, it would be disastrous," it said. However, the Chinese Foreign Ministry in a sedate reaction said that China and the US share a lot of common interests and have a great potential for cooperation.
Luke White
>south china sea >south >china >sea
Gavin Gutierrez
The Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang reacted guardedly to Tillerson comments as his government awaited Trump to take over the Presidency to have a diplomatic engagement.
Lu said China and the US share a lot of common interests and shoulder important responsibilities for the maintenance of international peace, security and development as permanent members of the UN Security Council.
"China and the US cooperation has brought tremendous benefits to the two countries and the two peoples and Beijing hopes to maintain that momentum," he said.
White people are so stupid to think other races would be content with being our "equals"
Cooper Long
>China threatening war over man made islands is a big deal and a breach of peace >The worlds largest nuclear power threatening war over plans being shot down should be ignored and any attempt at negotiation is treason Fuck our current foreign policy
I was wondering in which direction they would go. A few days ago China published their opinion in the Global Times and another English-speaking newspaper. That's for the "not so official publications".
China can't afford to go into a "large-scale" war about these islands but when they get shut down on these their plans to dominate SEA is null and void for the next decade. Why hasn't China decided to expand their influence in Indochina first? Or in central Asia? To monopolize the important trade routes through the Malakka strait is maybe too big of a bite for your first action on the world stage.
why do the dumb chinks want to go to war over some salt water? Are they afraid we are going to seize their food by taking all the fish and removing all the cats and dogs? silly gooks
wait until we release the black plague into their countries and have the cats eat all the rats up thus poisoning the slopes
Rev up Unit 731 Japan, you can tag along for this one.
Kayden Hughes
So China will attack the country that buys all it's shit? Okay, interesting point in time we dwell in.
Henry Bailey
Oil in the seabed. War? Not unless they think they can win, and they don't. They will maneuver their neighbors will trade deals the best they can and that's about all.
Josiah Scott
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Jordan Robinson
wow its literally fucking nothing
Owen Kelly
>likened China's island-building in the South China Sea to "Russia's taking of Crimea".
good, then why all this hysteria?
Daniel Hill
China's navy is baby-tier and would get annihilated by the largest navy in the world which happens to carry the second largest air force in the world.
>Why hasn't China decided to expand their influence in Indochina first? Or in central Asia? They don't want to compete directly with Russia.
Nolan Russell
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Charles Robinson
>+ russia will help us :D
Zachary Moore
Not even oil on the sea bed. Its about oil in tankers flowing from the middle east. China's problems lie in the need to keep it flowing. They are afraid that the US will use its forces based in Guam, the Philippines, and other Asian island to blockade oil shipments to China to strangle them, like they did to Japan prior to WWII. Ask Pearl Harbour and Midway all about what happened after that. The Chinese would prefer go to war before they are cut off, rather than try and play silly diplomatic games while you cut them off anyway. Nobody likes or wants a large war, but for the Chinese it would be a war of necessity, as they would be fighting an existential threat to the stability of their nation.
Joshua Russell
>laughing-meme-wallpaper-21 go back into your hole
Zachary Flores
South Korea Rejects Joint Drills With US, Japan Aimed at Countering North Korean Submarine
>Unless Washington plans to wage a large-scale war in the South China Sea, [...] approaches to prevent Chinese access to the islands will be foolish, [and this unsophisticated saber rattling probably wouldn't even pass the senate.] >POO! CHINA WARNS OF LARGE SCALE WAR WITH U.S.! POO!
Aaaand its just POO IN THE LOO FAKE NEWS again.
Jack Mitchell
>burgers rename all pics from internets
Are you a neet?
Nolan Lopez
I hope China realizes that their children and families that reside in the United States will become suspect and jeopardized by this.
Adrian Lee
Am i a bad guy because trump and putin r bffs? Does that make me a bad person?
Michael Sanchez
I question the effectiveness of the Chinese air force. Have they ever flown combat sorties? I've only seen Chinese aircraft fly for media/propaganda.
Thomas Morris
Why can't the US just put ashore whatever they want there?
The US puts a bunch of marines on the island. They start playing football.
It's in international waters. What could the Chinese do?
Logan Myers
Hahahahahahah As if the US would crash its own economy over some artificial islands
Jose Torres
Primarily, they want control over the international trade that flows through the South China Sea, which is valued at $5-6 trillion/yr.
Secondarily, they want control over the oil and natural gas reserves and the fish.
A tertiary reason is power projection. The territory they claim extends to a few miles off the coast of brunei, malaysia, the philippines, etc.
China's end-game is being the regional superpower of SEA and forcing the US out.
Daniel Gonzalez
Let's fucking fight china already and put them in their place
Hudson Wood
indeed fuck off, cunt, get out of the >GULF >OF >MEXICO hurrrr mexico should annex TX, FL, AL, LA durrrrrrrr
Matthew Russell
We memed ourselves into the Fallout timeline
Luke Williams
And we went cut off the oil this time either lel
Hunter Stewart
>They don't want to compete directly with Russia. I get that. I think that's also the reason why they don't engage in Mandschuria which they will definitely want to get back from Russia. But they certainly wouldn't interfere with them in Indochina.
Joseph Stewart
>tfw you will see giant bipedal Japanese war robots take to the battlefield and march on Bejing in your lifetime
William Myers
we have to set a precedent, you know. we can't just let countries militarize international waters and claim them as sovereign territory. china was originally skimming a gray area then the international community said china doesn't own the nine dash line. china seems to think it's above international law.
and Sup Forumss hero duterte the fucking cuck is selling out to china thereby opening a hole in our containment of china and giving china a greenlight of sorts to continue militarizing. what duterte doesn't realize is china will annex the philippines just like it did hong kong, then force chinese representatives into positions of power like in hong kong right now and in tibet for the dalai lama
china is playing the long game. the solution is not cold war-era escalation, but confrontation. if china continues to refuse to respect international law and sovereignty, then it should be punished through a means like sanctions, followed by war.
Ian Bell
This would probably end badly unless we got Russia on our side beforehand. Theoretically this should be possible because Russia would love to claim Harbin and surrounding areas again.
The truth is we wouldn't have much to gain, and would have all of our cities nuked. China would be in an even worse state. The only one to gain would be Russia in 100 years after the radiation wears off and they take over northern China.
Luis Wright
Tanks are being reported on the streets of NYC!
Ethan Thomas
What if the United States just doesn't send the chinks any more food?
Josiah Lopez
While the video does mention the more likely scenario at the end, that we would have many allies, it doesn't mention that china would starve (imports 20-30 % of it's food) and be in unrest in maybe 3-9 months.
Jack Baker
they turn to cannibalism
Kayden Stewart
Good. Chinese Navy would be wiped out in 48 hrs by US Navy.
Xavier Lopez
The Chinese have absolutely no regard for life. Do you really think they wouldn't be forcing their troops, airforce and navy to fight against each other in live fire, real war scenarios?
Jeremiah Campbell
They did in the great leap forward era. Plus boiled tree bark.
Well ah'll tell ya, ain't a dog-eatin' chinee men kin trade licks with ol' Dulce McGraha down here Tulsa way. That'd be me.
Jacob Roberts
Jesus Christ shut the fuck up cretin. Neither China or the US can give two shits about those islands or "international law". They both see them as strategic positions. For China, controling the SCS means controling their own lifeblood, as 80% of China's trade goes through that area (China's shipping makes the majority of the SCS shipping as well). For the US, having the Chinese controling their SLOC means that China feels safer, which is bad for the US, who tries to contain China and deny them the rise to become a peer power that would threaten the US' unipolar hegemony.
Ryder Young
No matter how many generations we live here, how much we are part of our communities, we will always be looked on with suspicion. We could have never set foot in the country of our ancestors and the still be viewed as the enemy.
We know this well.
China as a nation doesn't care about us. We chose to leave our own accord. Americans will murder us all just to prove a point that China. That's how Americans are and we are well aware of this.
T: shitty chink.... since the only good chink is a dead chink here.
Sebastian Jones
then why you still there faggot? waiting for your chance to take over?
Logan Powell
Dunno if you read SF, but the rise of China and the decay of the western world as we know it has been a common scenario for decades. Right now we're at a point where all those prophecies are becoming true at rapid speed, that's pretty exciting.
Sebastian Barnes
The Chinese air force in its entirety is the size of the US navy's naval aviation assets last I checked lol. And its mostly inferior planes. I wouldn't be too concerned about it.
As much as Russia has turned its economy to China since the EU/US sanctions began, the Russians and Chinese will turn on each other in an instant once the US declares war on one of them.
China undoubtedly would like the growing space and natural resources in eastern Russia. Likewise, Russia undoubtedly wants parts of Manchuria.
Jack Kelly
China has BIG plans
China will grow LARGER
Easton Jones
This . They should not be allowed to take our control of shipping lanes. All we have to do is block Chinese ships leaving that isthmus and their export economy explodes
Jayden Collins
Central Asia is mostly empty and then there is Russia with a sphere of influence. I think the Chinese know their claims in the South Chinese Sea are not that realstic and they try to bluff.
Jaxson Young
Lol, China, ohhhh so scared. Little 5 foot Chinese guys with ak47s can easily be mowed down my hogs.
Ethan Adams
The deep state wants to go to war with humanity.
Time we increase our cohesion and focus. Time for operation: redpill the military.
If we can get at least 60% of the military on our side we win.
We will indirectly control the world's most powerful military.
Gabriel Morales
so what you guys think it will happen?
Nathaniel Miller
>ohhhh so scared
yes, you better be scared.
They will raise rent on the military bases in Japan and south Korea.
and you will pay, white devil
Aaron Moore
Chinese military is a joke. There entire naval force would be wipped out pretty quickly. After that there only options would be nukes. Which they wouldn't use because once agian our nuclear subs surrounding chins wold blow the back to the qin dynasty.
Unless they find away to serg rush us across the Pacific Ocean they have zero hope.
Ryder Nguyen
you cannot in good faith and good understanding of the situation say that china would not abuse its power. when you look at the great firewall, the harvesting of organs from dissidents, the undermining of democracy in hong kong, the backdoor deals with duterte, the claims to a huge swath of international waters, legitimizing their claims through forceful posturing, their continual claim to taiwan, their military's aggression towards civilian fishermen, their stealing of drones, their destruction of churches, and in summary, their childishness and inability to act like a first world country, then say that china is "the victim" and usa is "the bully". you just can't, and if you do, you're probably retarded.
Samuel Ramirez
The American Military? That's already done senpai
Zachary Howard
Literally nothing. China will huff and puff and nothing will come of it. They're going to get checked hard over the next 8 years and lose bigly, but they'll accept it because its better than losing a war.
They'll probably indirectly start funding the democrats in the hopes that a future dem candidate can do for China what Trump is about to do for Russia.
Gavin Cox
Wrong. As soon as tigers go extinct China will not have access to any more tiger penis powder.
Bentley Flores
Did you see the massive voluntary turnout at Obama's farewell speech(not his farewell speech to the nation) to the military? It was almost empty save the color guard and political invites and a few interracial couples.
Carter Price
These fucking gooks have been awfully mouthy for these last few years. They need to be put in their place.
Xavier Rivera
relax, he's probably fucked up on krokadil
Thomas Bailey
I saw in another article about Tillerson's comment that a Trump transition member confirmed that his comment about blocking access was definitely on the table. So you never know
Dominic Jackson
Hillary was already a Chinese agent, they're way ahead of you on that one.
Robert Clark
It's mind/ thought control. It's propaganda for both home and abroad.
Hudson Kelly
They already fund the democrats. TPP was partly crafted by the Chinks with the help of King Nigger and Shillary.
Henry Reed
I can't wait for a war over the South China Sea and for the Chinese to get rekt
Brayden Baker
Probably, I just really fucking hate chinks is all since I work with a lot of them.
Jeremiah Hall
China and the US going to war would be a stupid idea for both countries.
It would be stupid for the US because the economy would nose dive at first. Everything we buy is made there. But there would be a boom in domestic manufacturing and create lots of blue collar jobs. Unless those jobs are instead moved to some other country where workers get paid dirt for maximum profit. Which I suspect would be the case. Like Africa or India or something.
It would be dumb for China because unless they get lots of help from Russia, they would loose. Russia helping China would happen due to alliance. In that case a pacific war would break out, it would be a cluster fuck of just about every pacific country picking a side and fighting it out.
A war like this would destabilize the world economy and cause lots of political instability in the region. The more economicly powerful countries would eat up the small ones.
It would be a mess. America has way more to gain from a war like this than China would, and China has more to loose.
Jaxson Gutierrez
China will lose, America will install Taiwan as the rightful democratic government. What's not to like?
Liam Roberts
War between China and the US would be fucking glorious. We will join arms with Russia and China and finally retaliate for WWII.
Henry Adams
>chink economy is completely dependent on exports to the US >start war with the US >economy goes to shit Dumb chink faggots
ME EITHER STOP THREATENING THE ANGLO-SPHERE YOU SHITS
Grayson Rivera
>joining arms with Russia >Implying Russians wouldn't start Rape of Berlin 2: Electric Vodkaloo
John Young
>Rex Tillerson >Russian Order of Friendship >President of the Boy Scouts of America >CEO of ExxonMobil >Friends with President Putin >Support for the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)
In 2013, Tillerson was awarded the Order of Friendship by President Putin for contribution to developing cooperation in the energy sector
""One of the most promising developments on this front is the ongoing effort for the Trans-Pacific Partnership"
Tillerson wrote an op-ed piece in The Wall Street Journal defending Common Core
Kayden Cooper
How much 'large scale conflict' would be needed for the next inevitable peasant revolt?
Kevin Murphy
Chinese try to fight >shit navy sunk >shit AF crippled >1 child policy bites their ass as family futures are wiped out at sea >Tibet revolts >Uyghurs revolt >Taiwan starts shooting >Vietnam engages the Chinese >Japan starts salivating at the thought of Manchuria >Chinese nukes shot down by THAAD
They can suck a dick
Joseph Sanders
Wouldn't be 3 now. Russia, refugees, Russia again.
Gavin Parker
It would be extremely painful
Blake Long
Jesus imagine what the offspring would look like.
Brody Nguyen
Would rather fight chinks than ruski bros
Dominic Foster
>Media
Theyre puffing smoke to make people stall trump.
Joseph Williams
no one cares about what a jew has to say idiot, go turn into ashes then we may consider having a use for you
Thomas Nelson
You're right, our relationship to Russia has been a little tense for ages. However, China is our most important business partner. If Germany/Europe will be forced to decide between US and China at some point, it's not unlikely that we will prefer China.
