Universal Healthcare in the US

So this fat guy has almost 4 million subscribers on youtube. He got popular with his whole "fat gamer" persona. He is a pretty big advocate of Obamacare because without it, he would not be able to afford to have his wife as a 24/7 "caretaker" in his own words.

This makes you wonder just how fucking expensive his medical treatment is. You can live a pretty damn comfortable life with just 400k subscribers and this guy has close to 10 times that amount. By looking at his house and how much be buys, he definitely isn't short on cash, yet without Obamacare his economic situation would be fucked?

Now I like the US, but you can't deny that there are a lot of fat fucks living there. How much would it cost the tax payers to pay for the treatment of all those millions of fat fucks if universal healthcare got implemented?

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Muslims bringing down your country and this

is what you're worried about?

SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER

WHEN YOU SEE THE WHITE WHALE

>wanting to help this lard instead of our homeless, mamed veterans

Our veterans deserve universal healthcare. This guy chose his own fate...

BREAK YOUR BACKS AND CRACK YOUR OARS MEN

>American freedom
>government healthcare

It just doesn't work. You cannot be free to eat whatever you want and smoke cigars while shooting apples of your friends head while drunk and expect government healthcare.

Government healthcare or "free" healthcare brings with it a nanny state that looks to control the costs of healthcare through controlling the behaviors of its people; you cannot ride a bike without wearing a helmet, cigarettes cost $30 for a pack of 20 and the company is forced to not even have their logo on it the packaging here. This is what you end up with when you allow government to control your healthcare, spiraling costs and high taxes that eventually cannot get any higher without revolt so they begin fiddling in your private life.

America is in a shit spot where it wants muh freedums but then fat fuckers like this expect the government to take care of them, it's why their system is so bad. You can have one foot in the "free" healthcare door and the other in the "free market" door and expect to somehow come out ok.

America is great because the people are free, they may tease you for being fat fucks but the beauty of it is that you are feee to be a fat fuck because in the end it costs no one but you. When an American eats his way to diabetes and needs their meds they must pay their insurance/cost. When they lose a leg due to their eating and the need a wheelchair they must pay the cost. The people are free to do as they please but must bear the consequences of their actions. The difference here being our obesity rates in nearly all other western nations isn't far behind the United States except I'm forced to pay for bills 3rd heart transplant.

Western society has reached a point where the ills it faces are more lifestyle than randomly caused and to expect people to continue to pay for this shit is suicide

Well then it sounds like his current lifestyle to income ratio is unsustainable and he needs to adjust his priorties. Or he can fuck off and die from his poor choices like he would in any sane society where we don't prop up folks not suited for survival.

Can someone redpill me on the whole Obamacare thing? As I understand, you guys already have Medicare and Medicaid, so I don't see what the big deal is.

This was always my mentality. I'm a smoker. I know the risks and by god I hope I don't get screwed. But if I do, the only thing I could ask for is charity. I have no right to put a gun to someone who takes care of himself and tell him to pay up, for my bad decisions. It's simple logic.

Universal healthcare is good. But only if you can punish unhealthy life choices. Which America doesn't do.

"Affordable" healthcare plan.
The only people who can afford it are the people who dont need it. It costs as much as a decent healthcare plan, but gives shitty coverage.

>giving Healthcare to cuckforcr vets

or you could just stop being fat as fuck.

he broke his chair by sitting on it and has a big bruise on his ass. hilarious.

I find smokers gross and the habit disgusting, the only thing I find worse is the way people treat smokers as children who cannot make decisions on their own. You lot are treated as people too stupid to know the consequences of your actions, too dumb to know what you are doing and therefore must have it done for you via taxes and control of your product.

The problem with healthcare is that people become bleeding hearts too quickly. You're a sane man who knows what he is doing and should he get lung cancer he cannot afford tomorrow will not be surprised. The issue comes when bleeding hearts will see you and say this is why society must all be taxed to pay for your ailment despite it being self inflicted.

The day technology is developed that can help determine the origin of a disease, whether it be pure stochastic cancer or because you enjoyed smelling paint for 8hrs a day, that is the day we can leave people to die in the gutter for bad choices and help those for whom this was not a choice. Until then the people will be forced to pay and we've all seen where diseases are heading these days, less and less random and more and more self inflicted

He should be fucking killed

>Being fat as fuck
>complaining about medical bill
Maybe stop being a fat fucking fuck and get your life together?

Kill yourself

>punish unhealthy lifestyle choices

This is the problem. Where do you draw the line. Heroin? Smoking? Fast food? Snowboarding? All these are choices people make that can incur a cost the health system. Who decides what is ok and what isn't Ivan? Will you deny treatment to that man because he smoked as a youth but allow treatment to this man who broke half his bones because he chose to go skydiving? Do you begin mandatory government cardio?

There is no line Ivan

>How much would it cost the tax payers to pay for the treatment of all those millions of fat fucks if universal healthcare got implemented?

Too much.

>The veterans who voluntarily go to war, come back with mental issues and lost limbs dont deserve any compensation, but the illegal immigrants, niggers, fat fucks and spics who all comit crime and contribute nothing to society or the economy do.

This

I was a typical work & traveller in australia four years ago. I was a smoker at that time. I've never experienced so much harassment for just being out in the open in the middle of nowhere enjoying a cigarette. Not saying its bad if you are concerned about public health, but yes it underlines your statement.

>How much would it cost the tax payers
Bernie Sanders wanted to implement universal healthcare, and he estimated it would cost $18 trillion dollars in the next 10 years.

Not only is that an estimate from a politician but a socialist one, so be sure to add the requisite amount onto that figure.

He also planned to pay for it by 'closing tax loopholes' and some other vague plans, read; taxing the fuck out of the middle class.

I don't understand people voting for him while knowing this.

Should have thought about it before becoming a fat fuck.

well said

Fuck this fat disgusting fuck. He apparently has this yearly cycle of "i'm gonna get healthier now, i swear", "thanks for the pads on the back" and "guess it's time to get even fatter". Hope his fat heart explodes for that alone and doesn't cost the tax payer money.

youtube.com/watch?v=I-CaC_43cZI

That's the sound of your healthcare premium increasing

We really need to vamp up the va hospital.

I'd support universal health care if smokers, drinkers, drug users and obese people were excluded from it.

he has maybe 5-10 years to live on account of the fact he can't stop stuffing his face and sitting around

it is a mess than cleans itself

he will be a burden until that day comes, but that day is coming soon

Boogie has had tons of help from trainers and such, but he never sticks with a program. I don't know if it's simply because all his friends are obese as well (and thus no one is there to keep them honest), or if he's worried that he'll lose subscribers if he loses weight and is no longer the "fat gamer guy".

Right now he's too heavy for lap band surgery despite wanting to get it done for years now. I love Boogie but at some point he needs to own up to his own lack of willpower and self control with regard to his medical problems. It shouldn't be incumbent on the tax payers to help him out.

I completely agree. I think our veterans should get all the advantages of universal healthcare. Not Raul and Jaquan.

Smokers already are.

It is strange the way smokers are vilified here in Australia. Not only are they hit with taxes so high that they pay for the healthcare costs they bring and THEN some more, they are also unable to smoke when at a bar outdoors. Smoking has all but been banned from bars and clubs and you will see at almost all events people leaving in droves at regular intervals to smoke them return to bars that are situated out fucking doors. It's bizarre. Like I said earlier I'm not a smoker but it really is absurd the way they have pushed it, no sense of personal choice, smokers are hopelessly addicted people we must marginalize until they come to their senses.

The freedums argument against healthcare is one that many neglect when discussing it yet I find it to be the worst aspect of the whole thing. You may be able to walk into a hospital, get treated and then walk out (with wait times etc) here but the fact that I cannot ride my bike down to the local store to pick up milk with a helmet is insane

>despite wanting to get it done for years now. I love Boogie but at so

People like you will kill him early. He gets so much pads on the back every time he cries about being fat that he eventually stops being fat and stuffs his face with more cake.

I draw it when a person disregards prescription.

If you don't want it you're on your own.

Next, the national programs. Awareness, taxes, restrictions on sales, advertisement, product placement, that sort of thing.

There are a lot of fit and healthier and wealthier nations than the US because they do that.

THen you will be okay if these people are not forced to pay into the system then surely

>it is a mess than cleans itself
im pretty sure he has to have somebody else wash him, even the traditional american rag on a stick can't reach everywhere.

Did you not read my post? I'm not giving him any pats on the back or coddling him. As I said, the only person to blame for Boogie's health problems is Boogie himself. He has money, access, and support from millions of people but still doesn't change.

>be forced to pay into healthcare system for all citizens
>love mountain biking
>doctor says don't go mountain biking
>now excluded from healthcare system that I am still forced to pay into

>taxes
>restrictions
Why are you such a statist?

Spain was a young lass, she contracted early free healthcare, one day Spain decided to enter the EU, while she was distracted Africa inserted her penis in her butt and she started also gobbling south american planes while birthing dishonest politicians.
Because of this nobody at her home wants to talk about what happened to gold reserves or social security money.
This is what happens to silly girls that give the whole universe free healthcare.

Cut welfare and healthcare for the obese and tax them like in Japan.
Problem solved.

simple. hes lying

>He is a pretty big advocate of Obamacare because without it, he would not be able to afford to have his wife as a 24/7 "caretaker" in his own words.

Boogie's marriage is dependant on Obamacare!?!?!?! So this is why I'm paying double on the premium's for my wife and I? Lol, makes sense.

And that's why I'm against it. This cuck is surely going to get out more than he's paying in and not attain any sense of agency in the process.

I doubt he's had to work a day in his life where he wasn't sedintary. I cannot afford a week off of work due to me gaining too much weight in a short amount of time.

That's what I don't get in the US, they are willing to throw away many regulations in that regard in the name of a free economy despite any potential economic advantages that area might give, it all ends up costing the economy a shit ton in the end because of healthcare etc.

Just look at drinking: cdc.gov/features/costsofdrinking/

The cost of excessive drinking is 2$ per drink in the US, just think about that

Kill, you are self

>I love Boogie

You're the fucking problem you asshole.

>Freedom ain't free: Straya cunt edition
I basically agree though. Fat fucks want muh freedums but don't want to be held accountable for their choices. You can't have it both ways.

This fat useless piece of human garbage will die in your lifetime

That's exactly right, it may still end up costing money in the end, but why should I be punished for the irresponsibility of other drinkers? Why should all the hard working stiffs have to pay more for a drink because a segment of the population binge drinks? The market decided my healthcare costs and before Obamacare, they were very reasonable. In any case, I do not see the price of alcohol in my state of NY changing any time soon.

what treatment does he need?
daily hypertension meds, weekly diabeetus shot and?

That CDC study is a crock of shit. It puts 77% of costs on "loss of work productivity" (which is retarded) and advocates lessening the societal cost of drinking by preventing privatization of liquor sales (only state run stores) and increasing the price/taxes on all alcohol. Gee whiz, I wonder who benefits from that?

This is the first time I've seen this situation so concisely summarized. Congrats.

Healthcare is a basic right goy.

Remember, if you don't want to enable these people, you are the real problem.

You know who else was anti-fat? Hitler!

I agree with what it says but like you every time I see "loss of productivity" stats in a report and it somehow always makes up 80% of the amount I roll my eyes. There is no doubt alcohol causes issues but the healthcare issues it brings should be shouldered by those that drink and the cost of healthcare they must pay. It only becomes an issue when these costs are spread around but personal responsibility isn't and people continue their behavior

>prevent privatize sales
>increases taxes
Prohibition 2 electric whiskyloo

>genetics
>chose

pick one retard

This. If it was all or mostly healthcare costs I'd understand but "loss of workplace productivity" is bullshit that's been qualified to the point where it doesn't mean anything.

Boogie is redpilled.

Willingness to change, e.g. fat fuck is given weight loss targets, they fail to meet this target they are dropped.

If they didn't voluntarily join your ass would be drafted

+1 and sage

Anytime someone brags about muh free healthcare remember the freedoms they gave up or will give up. The train can keep going for now as we are wealthy first world nations but eventually the train will stop or it will continue but is fed our freedoms as fuel. You'll see increasing government control over hobbies and lifestyles in these places until eventually we're doing government mandated cardio to stay eligible for our 3 day wait visit to the doctor. Euros and the like have long forgotten what it means to be free.

You can't laugh though, you're in the United States, your system has been absolutely raped as well

Doctor should be able to recommend they get cut off from non emergency health care if they refuse to follow professional medical advice.

>spends all his online money on junk
>I CANT AFFORD HEALTH CARE REEEE

He could get insurance if he would just slow it down on buy Call of Halo Wars XIII and every specialized autistic gamer shit that comes out.

This rich asshole is using Obamacare to fix his owie he got for being a fat fuck who can't control his food intake or do an ounce of physical activity.

It's almost never all genetics and even if it was in his case this is a guy who has enough money for that to not be a valid excuse.

>How much would it cost the tax payers to pay for the treatment of all those millions of fat fucks if universal healthcare got implemented?

America already spends twice as much per person as Australia dose. Where the fuck all that money going?

So is this person then still required to pay into the system? Surely they would be allowed to save their money privately? To force this fat fuck to pay into the system that he cannot access is beyond cruel.

Also the point I tried to make is that there is no line. You both have said the line is the doctor sets a random weight loss target. The point I tried to get across is the constant governmental creep,the changing of classifications to help meet budgets, today his BMI to be eligible has to be 30, tomorrow he is excluded because it's not under 28, the day after he is excluded because he doesn't have 1/2/3/4 stats in the gym. What I'm trying to say is that the arbitrary line you draw in the sand will be as pointless as the one Obama did as government will march right over it

I'd start with denying subsidised treatment for preventable illnesses or illnesses directly resulting from lifestyle choices. You get wake up one day with a cancerous lump, you get treatment. You get lung cancer after 50 packs a day, your problem. You get hit by a car one day, you get treatment. You need special medication and equipment because you ate so much for so long you can't even get out of an armchair by yourself, your problem fatty.

Something along those lines.

And tell me vlad, what medical technology have you discovered that can tell the origin of diseases? I've posted before in this thread that should tech reach the point where a random mutation caused by background radiation leading to cancer is discernable from poor diet/habits then medicine will be revolutionized and the industry be better off.

We are no where near that point so telling them apart is impossible, you either treat them all including fat fucks like OP or you don't. Therein lies the issue

So is this person then still required to pay into the system?

Yes

There is zero excuses to living an unhealthy lifestyle in modern society. No one is able to claim ignorance of the dangers of fatty food, smoking, drug use and alcoholism.

I'm tired of this FAT FUCK popping up on all my fucking search index when I'm looking for a fucking work-out video. I don't give a fuck about that aftermath from any of you boogie fans that feel sorry for this greesy fuck You fat fucking disgusting Ass Smelling, Blob, Cheese Drinking, Crisco Bathing, Lard Gargling, Calorie Thieving, Cabbage Patch Face-having, Dr. Robotnik Looking, Wingstop Eating, McDonald's Gorging, T-Rex Arm Having, Non-Vegetable Eating, Cook on a George Foreman grill just to drink out the drip tray, Wide Load, Hungry Hungry Hippo, Planet, Pretending to have a fucking Thyroid problem, Whale / Free Willy, Parked Bus, Yokozuna, Flubber, *PWAHH* Kirby, Salad Dodger, Chair Crusher, Butter Ball, Go to Subway, but put everything on it, Michelin Man, Happy because Hostess is back in business mother fucker I know there's gonna be a lot of people out there calling me a bully. Well guess what. I'M NOT. I just don't feel sorry for FAT FUCKING people, especially FAT FUCKS who sit there all day, gorging eat and make money for doing absolutely nothing What a bunch of sorry fucks like yourself played into it You don't like what the fuck I'm saying? Then FUCK YOU!

Yeah well, I wasn't suggesting it was a perfect system. That's what I'd aim for in principle. If an obese fucker walking in with breathing problems and wants free diabetes meds they can get fucked.

There shouldn't be obese fucks in the first place.

And the only way to stop it is to make people responsible for their own health.

Socialist health care systems where you're guaranteed health care with no effort just breeds fat diabetes cunts.

Reading comprehension fail, user.

100% agree mate.

I drink sugary drinks and fatty foods on weekends with friends and smoke at social events. On the weekdays I lift and run and eat prepped foods. What is your great society to do with those who can balance personal responsibility with indulgence? We return again to the point of where do you draw your line?


I can't wait to live in your great society.

>mamed
memed*

how many subscribers/views do you need to make 1000 a month?

Assuming their choices got them there I agree. I think we are in agreement about the issue of treating those who have had their issues brought on by lifestyle seen as we both agree . The question then becomes what to do in the interim before our wonderous technology arrives. Do we treat all including the fat fucks who ate their way to the hospital or do we leave all to be and allow the man who got a random brain tumor to be swallowed whole by the cost?

youtube.com/watch?v=oXhqmRYoR3k

gets me everytime

>Search Results
Kay likely gets about $7.60 per 1,000 ad views, down from $9.35 in 2012, according to TubeMogul, which buys and sells video ads. Ads are only run on a minority of videos shown. Roughly, a video creator will earn $2,000 for every million views. "And then YouTube takes 45 percent," the Times notes.10 Feb 2014

>BMI over 30 with no factors outside of lifestyle= cut off
>smoke a pack a day=cut off
>drug addict unwilling to go to rehab= cut off
>alcoholic unwilling to quite=cut off

>fat fuck needs a care taker for a situation he himself created and continues to allow
>somehow tax payers are responsable for this

Yes Sven, he should be able to continue to waste his money on frivolities while American tax payers pay for the health issues his unhealthy lifestyle created.
Or maybe he could start spending some of that YouTube money on his own God same medical treatment instead of 4K TVs and 2kgs of Doritos weekly.
Perhaps once his actions start to affect him, you know consequences he will reflect on his unhealthy lifestyle and change it.

>Be an Atlas Srugged who lives in a hamlet and lives off youtube and pathreon
>motherfucking stat takes a cut and wastes it on roads that I don't even use!

Yes. Living in society means that some of the communal resources goes into stuff that doesn't benefit you directly.

LTG is actually pretty red-pilled on blacks and some other issues.

>smoke a 19 cigarettes a day
>qualify

Nice line

Go forth and campaign for restrictions comrade, inshallah the new prohibition will arrive

>muh libertardian roads
Kek

The entire industry from toxic easy cheap soft fast food which breaks down the human body overtime and makes people obese to the toxic pharma industry which profits from it to the entire fitness / fat acceptance culture is all one big scam to keep people dumb, lazy and fat.

All to control people by keeping them passive so they don't think or rise up when their government sends their children off to war, all of it to avoid a youth movement like the 60's experienced which ended the Vietnam war in essence.

>fatfuck
>qualifies
>600 dollars of oxygen a week
Same with smokers.
It is unfair.

I should not be paying for the unhealthy lifestyle choices of other of the government will selectively exclude me for practicing a sport.
I'm ok paying my own healthcare but don't charge me for theirs...

tax loopholes normally refer to ways that corporations avoid tax, which is how they end up paying an effective tax rate of like 1%, which is the shit apple among others pull in australia

tax exemptions used to facilitate investment you mean

>I don't understand people voting for him while knowing this

they're Bernie supporters. they have no brain. all they hear is "free" and automatically love him

How would somebody this fat even begin to lose weight?

You guys know that, healthy people who retire and live for decades off of medicare, medicaid, social security, etc, cost the tax payer dramatically more money than fatties and smokers

If anything, gym memberships should be taxed punitively and smokes, cola and sitting around shit posting should be encouraged

Well tax duh wun puhcent moah and tuh get free college tuition, we'll tax Wall Street speculation.

eat less, eat better, drink water, stand

not eating a tub of butter would be a start

>shoot people for jews
>should be horned
top kek

Don't get everything on the sandwich at subway. Don't drink out of the George Foreman grill drip tray.

What if we don't pay for anybody and everyone can fuck right off?

Why should I pay for some oldfuck who sold my future to the chinks so he could enjoy an easy life?
He can fuck right off. If you didn't manage to save enough money for your retirement in 50+ years of working, you should sudoku. I'll give u a free sword.

Someone should put a my 600 lb life overlay on some screenshots of him.