Trump Wants To Lift Russian Sanctions

This can't be real.

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IT IS REAL, YOU FUCKING CRY BABY FAGGOT!

so when can i buy a cheap russian AK?

Soon

legitimately what's bad about lifting Russian sanctions?

Of course he's gonna lift them. Obama only put them in place out of a hissy fit because trump won.

Just read through the list of Russian/Ukraine related sanctions. Lifting some of those would be terrifying.

treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/pages/ukraine.aspx

But why should we sanction them in the first place?

The US has zero legitimate national interest in protecting the sovereignty of former Soviet states in Eastern Europe, or in protecting Muslim civilians in Syria. These sanctions were motivated purely by progressive/liberal ideology and represent a gross misuse of government power.

>Legitimately. What's wrong with [insert bad thing here]

"The Reasonable Request": The speaker asks a "reasonable" question about the topic that ignores the long recursive history of the narrative in an attempt to "reset" the argument.


Russian invaded Ukraine and annexed the Crimea. They have bombed civilian hospitals committing war crimes. The have used the pretext of a fight against ISIS, which has no air force, to justify a missile defense over Syria to stop Israeli airstrikes.

Read a fucking paper sometime, duchebag.

Dumb headline. Obama was also open to lifting sanctions. They're not put in place to remain forever but to tell Russia to fuck off from Ukraine.

We bomb hospitals and commit war crimes all the fucking time, big deal

You are right, countries should keep crippling Russia's development
fuck them

Obama is childish person who tries to poison the well. Why not? Russia's foreign politics are like math, there's nothing personal. More likely you're just gonna hurt your own economy with those sanctions. Same thing is happening in EU.

Keep stealing organs, kidnapping people and dealing cocaine. That's where your country is famous.

>We bomb hospitals and commit war crimes all the fucking time, big deal
Did you honestly read what you just typed out?

Oh yeah? After you, CIA.

and people in Crimea dying is our problem how...?

That means I'll be able to get a real Kalashnikov

No. We don't. As a percentage of our bombing missions, the US has the lowest civilian casualty rate in history. The only Hospital we bombed in Afghanistan was an accident, but all of those involved were repremanded and procedures reinforced. Russia has a plan not bomb civilians and civilian aid groups and only uses airstrikes to prop up Assad, not to fight terrorism.
And yes, it is a big deal. We are always only one generation away from the stone age.

>Russian invaded Ukraine
Proofs?

>If Russia is a good boy, we will lift the sanctions
How is this bad ?

>We
No, that's Obama's government. Fuck knows how that ape got a nobel peace prize.

i got a strong feeling that some madmen will shoot this guy

lmfao not only does Trump cuck to jews he does to Slavs as well LMFAO HOW PATHETIC IS THIS GUY

For being the first nigger president, basically

Nobels are Good Goy awards.

No one is dying in Crimea, by the way. People are dying in Donbass, where Ukraine's "legitimate government" tries to force these territories back under its control. Had we occupied Donbass in the first place, no one would have to die there, and if we occupied Ukraine it would've been a much better place overall.

This thank the gods. I'd be surprised if the NRA let's him do it though.

you do mate,media just doesnt have a boner for 24/7 reporting us crimes because you are the """"good"""" goys

I wish I could actually believe this

>Mosins become cheap again
Wait, do they even still have spare Mosins in crates? Its an irrational weird feeling to think that the posterboy poorfag rifle managed to run out.

I hope it is real. I love mother russia.

And people dying of opiod addiction is our problem how? And people who don't have jobs is our problem how?

You suffer from dialectic myopia. The universe can't be divided into cause and action: it is a recursion that always comes back to haunt you.

The peace in Europe over the last 70 years is one of the longest stretches of peace in Europe's history, and is maintained by a set of rules put in place and sponsored by the USA. Europe is a major trading partner, and partner in promoting civil life on this planet.

Even if you are just a selfish cunt, You don't think that affects you?

amnesty international corroborates this, assad has killed something like 16x more civs than the U.S. has

It isn't, only a cuck thinks passive-aggressive, "Don't trade with me or with my wife's son ever again" permanently works. You put sanctions on them to show what they stand to lose, and then let them know they can get the good things back if they do the things we want.

Hello rebbit

Russia didn't invade anybody, shill. It was a coup funded by Soros/US.

dialectic myopia is simply a symptom of memes, low intelligence and apathy towards intellectual wellness, you're going to find it all over Sup Forums to be quite honest

This was the only reason Obuma implemented them, so that Trump would lift these stupid sanctions.

Obuma is doing a lot of things like this for future PR.

Now count USA-supported dictators and their kill counts. Start with Indonesia for example.

There are Russian troops there. They kicked out the Ukrainian Military. The Duma recongnized Crimea as not part of Ukraine.


Sup Forums is not a fact free zone like you Brietbart News, retard.
You are too stupid for /pol. Go back to Sup Forums

I believe (((you))) fellow Sup Forums user!

How about the kill counts of Russian dictators, start with Russia for example

You're wrong. Media has an insane boner for reporting US war crimes, you weren't here for the Iraq invasion because every little bad thing the soldiers did was on the media 24/7.

Shit, even during the Gulf War, a relatively bloodless war, the one time airstrikes killed some 30 civilians accidentally it was on the news for pretty much an entire week, and people were reconsidering our role in that war.

This trend happened after Vietnam. You think the media thinks the US are good guys? Our massacres in My Lai pretty much made the media think the US military are all baby murderers and thieves.

No, that user is true. Relatively speaking we fight very neat wars. Russia just bombs an entire population center hoping to kill a few terrorists. It's been their policy since WWII.

It's a bit sacrilegious when it's coming from the mouth of America.

For once, you should try a country which can actually fight back with you, instead liberating countries which fight back with stick and stones. You're genius at what you're doing because in most cases, you'll get just bad looks from developed countries when you invade country after country, but nothing more because you guys are very serious and look like you know what you're doing.

This. Who gives a flying fuck about older Soviet states or mudslimes. We got ppl to take care of here, in THIS country.

Yeah, I figured that much. It's kinda funny how only libtards put any value to those ''prizes''. It's really just a gigantic circle jerk.
I like how they nominated Hitler for one, solely because he was a socialist

Putin cucked amurica while Sup Forums cheered.

go fucking kill yourself you heartless lizard

Good.

Thanks to Obama, we've been reaching a boiling point with Russia. Our country doesn't need to go to war with them. The majority of Americans are sick of policing the world. Let them handle their hemisphere how they want. We need to focus on our own nation building.

>This can't be real.

>The US has zero legitimate national interest in protecting the sovereignty of former Soviet states in Eastern Europe

Lol, oh wow. Sup Forums is a fucking gutter.

>There are Russian troops there.
Proofs?

>The Duma recongnized Crimea as not part of Ukraine.
The Crimean people also held a referendum and voted to join Russia, probably because it's mostly ethnic Russians living there. Convenient you left that out.

Also conveniently left out was that Crimea has been Russian clay for centuries and was only recently "gifted" to Ukraine.

You're fucking new as fuck if you don't even get that reference.

Just like the dossier promised.

What's the betting this means Putin has some sort of dirt on Trump to give him leverage?

>1v1 knife only me faggot

Underage plz

>a foreign country's problems
vs
>your own country's problems
We are not the world police. Fuck off to Crimea if you care so much.

Well fucking said

Former armed forces here. We fight as clean as possible and hold back so much

Eventually the population turns to outside and fights with us. Russia is constantly fighting insurgencies IN RUSSIA because they keep killing everyone including innocents and guess what Russia innocents have families and friends who are going to keep coming for you

>russia invaded ukrain

Russian """"((((Invaded))))"""" Ukraine because it's government was a tyrannical neo-nazi government that refused to accept the people vote to be part of Ukraine. The people of Kiev voted to be annexed by Russian, and the government refused. People peacefully protested and where gunned down by the army. yet you are surprised why russia took action?

For once in their shitty history, Russia was trying to preserve a democracy. meanwhile America ((("""Land of the freee"""))) and ((("""NATO"""))) voted against the will of democracy and voted to put sanctions on russia.

yet people still defend these retarded actions taken by NATO and America

I don't even think about it, there is much more going on in the world. MAGA

he basically gave it to himself along with the freedom award or wateverthehell

And if we nuke you off the planet, we won't have to deal with your shit anymore....

It's genetics really. Russians are just Gypsies and niggers who cannot understand civilization. They have to have an enemy to define themselves. They have to have an "other".

What do you expect? They purged all the ones who could actually do civilization 100 years ago. Now all they are left with are retards...

Best to just eliminate them...

>Ukraine

Who? Oh, I assume you're talking about west Russia, like Palestine is west Israel. Ukraine isn't a country.

>what is advisory opinion on kosovo's declaration of independence
>what is self determination

this

Pretty sure America is only marginally better at avoiding civilian deaths with their air strikes than Russia.

Russia is sitting at 3-4k civilian deaths in Syria and US at +/-1K from air strikes.
Russia has done a lot more airstrikes than US, but I couldn't find exact numbers.

Obama is a classic narcissist. Really fucking disgusting.

We're the world police and our foreign policy promotes our self-interests more than anything Donald Trump has promised during his campaign (that aren't even going to come true anyway) but you're literally a myopic uneducated child, SAD!

Just more and more projecting. Just blame others in your own crimes and it will go away. Lie first, lie big.

That's the shit I'm after

I was referring to countries like Russia, China, Germany, France, India etc. That'd be very bad PR tho, don't you think?

Not an argument

HOLY FUCK YES PLEASE I WANT AN AN94 PLEASE GOD LET THIS HAPPEN

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>Ukraine's "legitimate government" tries to force these territories back under its control
Because they belong to Ukraine, duh.

>Palestine is west Israel
if anything, Palestine would be central or east Israel. Neither are legitimate countries though since they're squatting in the Kingdom of Jerusalem.

Putin cucked the deep state CIA criminals, not the US
Portugal isn't even a real fucking country

I don't see why not desu

and now he's staying in DC after leaving office like we can't function without him. We did just fine for 240 years before you came along thanks

No. It's not even close. We've killed around 45,000 Isis fighters in two years.

You compare that and the civilian deaths then compare Russians kills and civilian deaths it's not even close at all

Yes let me lay out a 50 page argument on Sup Forums to somebody who is clearly as intelligent as a 14 year old. There are better places to have these discussions really.

>and our foreign policy promotes our self-interests

Are you talking from the perspective of an Israeli or Saudi Arabian? Because, no, our foreign policy has very little to do with the interest of the American people.

Our soldiers get court martialed constantly for abuses against civilian population. Crimes exist, it's the nature of war, but the difference between us and you is that we keep our shit under control, you don't care about yours.

Don't go comparing us to yourselves. We fight different wars and have different mentalities about the civilian population.

I think Palestine was there before Jews got that land after WWII. Then they get terrorist classification after Israel decides to suffocate them with expansion. Muh 6 millions tho.

Delusional liberal faggots. The "American Century" has been an abject failure that has accomplished little abroad and wreaked potentially incurable moral damage to both the US and western Europe.

But you don't even want to take care of your people? Isn't Sup Forums against any sort of government help?

>Because they belong to Ukraine, duh.
oh you silly little jew

This Also don't forget Russia only operates in Syria. We operate in Syria and Iraq.

Crimea is GONE. Ukraine won't get it back. When will people realise that?

the russophobic memery is ridiculous, give russia a chance so the west can work together without letting china get too powerful, if russia fucks shit up we can put the sanctions back on again

and the golden showers stuff was obviously fake news that all credible news organizations rejected until cnn and buzzfeed released it

From what I can tell most Russian sanctions that are actually felt in Russia are imposed by Russia.

this, I wish we had elected Hillary the strong leader the Western people deserve

Go away JIDF, Ukraine is a shithole invented by Commies and was always part of Russia and Poland

And if you love Ukraine so much, go there and fight for it then you fucking cuck

Only stupid people think that the US getting along with Russia is a bad thing.

How is that supposed to be bad?
The sooner the relations between the west and the Ruskies normalizes, the better. We can finally get back to trading.

My homeland should have never imposed those sanctions as part of EU in the first place.
They have only harmed our economy.

LMFAO THIS MEME. We did it for the Jews! We did it for the Saudis!

No, actually we did do it for the U.S. the West and its allies, but tin foil hat is going to tin foil. P.S. Obama sold kike Israel out and Trump is ready to bend the knee to not only Israel, but Russia. He talks big about Saudi Arabia and what has he done to condemn them? You voted for a fucking subservient goy con man, and dumb people like you who I sincerely doubt makes more than 30K a year are going to suffer immeasurably, I can only hope.

Look at your penis real fast, are you circumcised? If so, literally gas yourself you sub-human rat.

The US isn't even a real country, just a collection of states with no ethnic homogeneity anymore.

>Europeans still obsessed with Pakestine

Why do you guy faggots care so much? Are you all just Arabs posting from European countries at this point or have the goyim gone full dhimmi by now?

Pls explain.

ad hom, deflection and still not an argument.