I'm muslim and arab

>I'm muslim and arab
>I don't hate other religions and I think ISIS does not represent Islam

explain this Sup Forums

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raymondibrahim.com/2014/04/12/taqiyya-about-taqiyya/
youtube.com/watch?v=abyBT0-_nyA
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_blasphemy#Punishment_by_different_Islamic_schools_of_jurisprudence
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Qurayza#Siege_and_surrender
islamqa.info/en/20894
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Taqiyya. You and your brethren become a very different people once you're the majority.

You should be tortured

ISIS represents SOME of Islam. He was pretty clear about what to with the kafir if they attack

This.

Can't fool me.

Gulf Arabs, from personal experience, are the most disgusting, evil, wicked monsters on earth. As you have a smiilar culture to them, you are therefore performing taqiyya / kitman.

ISIS does represent Islam, they are merely practicing Islam as it was by the salaf-as-saleh or the first 3 generations of the pious predecessors, and unlike teh "moderates" they are taking the Sunnah and Qur'an literally.

What is your opinion of Gulf Arabs? This answer will form my opinion of you. Any friend of a khaleeji is an enemy of mine.

>Germany flag
>muslim and arab
ARGHHHG

yet you don't live in your ancestral homeland in order to defend the christians being persecuted there.

Taqiyya is only used if you think your life is in danger in the country you live in. Why should I feel endangered in Germany?

Explain these:
youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU
youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg

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brown subhuman AND a religious retard

boy you can be proud of yourself

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>I'm muslim and arab
>German flag
I actually believe you

You arent doing your religion right then.

raymondibrahim.com/2014/04/12/taqiyya-about-taqiyya/

If you're right and I'm wrong, nothing happens.
If I'm right and you're lying about using taquiya, my future grandchildren get beheaded or turned into sex slaves once muslims become majority.
I think I'm gonna play it on the safe side and say "fuck all muslims".

oh look, more taqiyya

Woah you just found that the world isnt black and white
WOOHOO

So you're telling me ISIS does not represent Islam. Yet, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi studied Islam half his life. You maybe just don't know your own fucked up religion.

That's what you say. It's primarily used as a weapon against unbelievers, to gain their trust and further your religion's agenda.

fuck your "religion"
its not compatible with western values

your last video is literally someone subtlety forcing his own opinion on the viewer. I don't care about your first video because I don't listen to retarded imams who are obviously backed by the Wahabist in Saudi-arabia

>Germany
>Muslim

Checks out, now kill yourself ahmed.

I don't hate all of you arabs but you have no place in Europe

careful to mistake it with religion
it's a full political and social system

The studies don't lie. The majority of muslims around the world are radicalized. I know many muslims myself who live in Germany and most of them are good folks but we can't just accept so many radicals from these 3rd world countries.

What exactly have I to explain?

this, really
assuming op is telling the truth he's actually an apostate

thats why I used " " around that word

name me five unislamic things about isis

You are an apostate.

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>Killing innocents
>killing fellow muslims
>declaring war on fellow muslim countries
>gay sex (yes really)
>burning and destroying ancient sites

ISIS could only emerge within this particular religion though.

>implying all muslims are not defacto bitches to Saudi Arabia according to the quran
You're not baiting or fooling anybody.

Anecdotal evidence, global statistic trends are not effected.

>all these
>not islamic

No its not. Its used as self-defense when you're afraid of your life in a certain part of the world

This. Taqiya.

If er go by this definition, nearly no "true" muslims exist.

I didn't know Iran and Syria are Saudi-arabias bitch.

Can someone explain to me what western values are? Is it about women running naked in the streets like filthy animals,sodomy,cuckoldry?

youtube.com/watch?v=abyBT0-_nyA

Its an unislamic thing to do, but it doesn't mean it makes you a non-muslim. We all sin and make mistakes.

Stop lying.

Once again, Wahabists slowly taking over most of the muslim countries.

Just because Vlad and glorious Baschar al-Assad defeated the Sunni scum.

I'm not lying, I'm literally stating you the purpose of taqiyya. Its not used to deceive your enemies, its used to make sure you survive

I remember when a bunch of Lebanese kicked off in Australia and started attacking women on the beaches. It was righteous watching your lot get their shit kicked in by based roos.

examples which are in all western countries which are not allowed in islamic ruled countrys and islam:
freedome of speech
freedome of expression
equality
ancestors of europe fought and died for this. islams ideology is against all of this. It cannot seperate religion and politics.

fuck this thread

fpbp /thread

Unless you are a Shia which an extreme minority you basically pray towards Saudi cities and are obliged to visit them. And we all know how Saudis preach. Europe has almost no Shia muslims. It's mainly Sunni scum, which is driven by Wahabism.

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Your anchestors didn't die for
>freedom of speech
>freedom of expression
>equality

they died for christiandom

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Literally this.

When you Jew so hard your culture literally has a name for it, you don't seem very trustworthy.

There are Sunnis which are not driven by Wahabism you know. Most turks and some arabs for example despise Saudi-arabia from what I know

it all lead to this. and I am also talking about things like the french revolution.
look at the french now.

wow really made me think...

How the fuck are we supposed to know if you're telling the truth?

Again, your culture literally has a word for deceiving unbelievers, that's a major red flag.

haha, so basically mohammed himself wasnt muslim?

>killing "fellow" muslims
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_blasphemy#Punishment_by_different_Islamic_schools_of_jurisprudence

>killing innocents
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Qurayza#Siege_and_surrender

>destroying idols
islamqa.info/en/20894

Because I am literally not fearing for my life right now? I can say whatever the fuck I want on this board, why should I lie?

I'll trust her any day over any muslim who says he comes from the religion of peace.
There are two kinds of muslims.
The extremist and the moderate who silently agrees with or does not oppose the moderate.

Given a muslim majority in a nation I don't believe for a second any muslim would defend me against other more extreme muslims.

You are trying to lie your way inside to the 1st world, and you put your shitty koran book over our laws. Sooner or later you will be pissed because people in the 1st world are not behaving among the lines of your shitty book. In the end, you are all the same kind.

*boom*

Why of thinking in general. The mohammedans religion is an atrocity to the average european, since the Religion lacks the metapysical dimension. Yes christanty is a power tool to some extent, islam is not much beside a power tool. It is bound in the material and slave to the profane.

>oppose the extremist

ftfm

These all sound pretty islamic to me.

>christiandom

at least we were able to separate church and state, now go back in North Africa cunt

Oh you mean like the Ottomans?

>I can say whatever the fuck I want on this board
you answered your own question.

ISIS is a perfectly legitimate expression of islam and their founder has a phd in islamic studies from baghdad university, ISIS couldn't be anymore islamic if they tried.

Equlity isn't christian, you are falling for the memes. Christianity means being forgiving with those, who are your lesser or subordinated.

>The Quran does not explicitly mention any worldly punishment for blasphemy (sabb allah or sabb al-rasul), as it does for apostasy (riddah)

Your second link never shows how mohammed killed any innocents

>islamqa

again, another site owned by Wahabis.

>islamic ruled countries

Except we vote and we have freedom of experssion here in lebanon. Most arab countries that prohebits freedom of expression are secular not islamic. Iran and turkey two islamic nations have been freedom of speech than most secular arabic countries.

I want to note that there is a reason why I used the words "western values" and not christianity. Western values are not the same as christianity.

>I'm a national socialist
>I don't hate the jews and Hitler does not represent me

explain this lefitsts

I don't really have much against islam praticed in arab, north african and far eastern countries were it belongs, but it don't want any of it in europe, it dosen't belong here. However I think most mohammedanes are extrem hypocrites.

>ISIS doesnt represent islam
>still bitching about the crusades

Your prophet was a child abusing mass murderer. Until you don't accept this fact I am not even close to consider your cult as a religion.

>Your second link never shows how mohammed killed any innocents

>"Then they surrendered, and the apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the apostle they asked Ka`b what he thought would be done with them. He replied, "Will you never understand? Don't you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!" This went on until the apostle made an end of them. Huyayy was brought out wearing a flowered robe in which he had made holes about the size of the finger-tips in every part so that it should not be taken from him as spoil, with his hands bound to his neck by a rope. When he saw the apostle he said, "By God, I do not blame myself for opposing you, but he who forsakes God will be forsaken." Then he went to the men and said, "God's command is right. A book and a decree, and massacre have been written against the Sons of Israel." Then he sat down and his head was struck off.[47][48][60]"

sound pretty isis style to me

hmmm, i wish you could read... ordering your followers to excute people is not the same as killing them?

>why should I lie?

I don't know. Why do you stone women to death? There's literally no reason for that either but it happens all over the Western world.

Again: your culture has a word for deceiving outsiders. It's clearly common enough practice to merit its own terminology. You don't see tactics for deception in the Bible.

You probably aren't lying, but only an idiot would believe anything you say. As user above stated, if you're telling the truth, nothing happens. If you're lying, the end result is widespread beheading, sectarian religious conflict and the downfall of Western society.

Yes they are.

I agree with you. Islam has no place in Europe, because europeans don't want to be muslim. Your people have been different from ours for most of our existence, and I respect that. It just upsets me that people tell me to "go back to arabia" because they put me in the same spot as those crazy wahabis. If Europe ever wants to be muslim, the european people should decide this for themselves

I don't bitch about the crusades?
very nice argument my friend you sure convinced me

>I think ISIS does not represent Islam

So like every other blame-dodging Muslim apologist...

They are similar and they developed it, but state and church have to be seperated. Christianity had a big deal in shaping those values though.

I am glad ancestors fought back than against islam. If they did not we would probably be another islamic shithole by now.

what the fuck do you want me to do? call up my friends at ISIS and tell them to stop it?

>The Quran does not explicitly mention any worldly punishment for blasphemy (sabb allah or sabb al-rasul), as it does for apostasy (riddah

yeeea, right... the hadith doesnt matter if it doesnt fit your agenda right? aisha was not 9 when mohammed had sex with her right? yee, yee... cool beans

>I think ISIS does not represent Islam
I aint been representing for 5 years, but Ballas won't give a shit.

You should see Israel, makes your country look like a shit-hole by comparison. Also a good example of almost-Western values if you're seriously wondering and not just trolling.

Sorry I wanted to respond to the post you responded to.

>the european people should decide this for themselves
how great it is that now foreigners from islamic countires are seen as "europeans" too.

>what the fuck do you want me to do?

Leave Islam, go back to your country and teach the people there about the evils of Islam.

> my future grandchildren
> Sup Forums losers having children

The Hadiths are Umayyad propaganda to justify their conquests. They were written some hundred years after Mohammeds death

I think you responded to the right post, I just wanted to note for the arab german user why I used the words and not christianity.

Own up to the fact that ISIS does in fact represent Islam and work to change that instead of being "Oh no, we dindu nuffin, we totally not the same" and do nothing about changing Islam for the better.
Each time Islam hit a reformation phase it always turns even more Violent.

ISIS, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram etc. are all different interpretations of Islam but they have all one thing in common and that is extreme violence.

Change that instead of saying "Islam is religion of peace" despite you know full well it isn't.

/rant

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