/mlg/ - Marxism Leninism General

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

fuck off commie

What did you mean by this comrade?

kys

No thanks. If anyone wants to give an argument that would be great.

you have to go back

Nice argument.

Okay here's my argument. What is stopping you from killing yourself? And also you should kill yourself.

How will I fight in the revolution If I'm dead?

>>/leftypol/
faggot scum

>it's a suicide by cop episode

Anyone else a Maoist here

>that pic
Marxism Leninism is a transition state of state capitalism where the country has a state run economy so it can industrialize and prepare for socialism. The USSR wasn't socialist it was Marxist-leninist.

It doesn't work, hasn't worked, will never work. Give it up. Life is pretty cushy under capitalism. Why would you want to give up a relatively luxurious life for a system that regularly lets it's people starve because 'whoops, didn't produce enough food again!'

Cool thread bro, let me bump it a couple times and report your ass.

How does Maoism even differ from Marxism Leninism?

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>implying mods care at all

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Okay kid.

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Proletarier aller Länder, vereinigt euch!

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So every time it's been tried it's failed?

>stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

but who enforces it?

> literally disproving marxist nonsense by quoting the sticky

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stop bumping the thread lad

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The ideology that won't give up until literally everyone is either poor or dead.

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Socialism has been achieved but the USSR and satellite country's were state capitalism thus you cannot blame there failure on socialism.

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No. Until the workers own the means of production.

>implying that the smug globalist fucks you end up giving more power to will bother to give you a position of power instead of killing your pathetic, painfully oblivious ass

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dis baiting must stop

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fuck you ML
Anarchist reporting in.

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>what is Rojava?

Anarchists are even more retarded than communists

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>what is Stalin's Russia

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Explain please.

State capitalism. Not socialism.

Fucking cripplechan

> unironically thinking that if you just keep shilling eventually people will believe you

leftists are this stupid and brainwashed

How do you allocate recourses effectively if there are no prices for goods?

lol they really are like a shittier srs aren't they?

Jokes on you, I'm ancom

Who said anything about that? What I mean is that they had a completely state controlled economy. Not worker control over the means of production or federated coops.

REALLY ACTIVATES THOSE ALMONDS

I'm having a hard time believing that a human being can be this fucking stupid. I'm kind of fascinated right now tbqh

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At least communism approaches what one might on the surface think is a feasible idea. Even the most shallow analysis of anarchism reveals it to be prone to exploitation and generally resulting in a shittier time for everyone involved.

What by your definition is socialism?

Holy fuck you guys have shitty memes, is that picture actually supposed to be funny, its fucking reddit teir cancer

XDXDXD JEB IS COMMIE ITS FUNNY BECAUSE HES COMPLETELY THE OPPOSITE IN REAL LIFE XDXDXD EBIN :D:D:D

it's pitiable

not only are they getting cucked by a global return to nationalism, but the corporate neoliberal "left" has cucked them out of having a platform because they won't fall for idpol

What about Catalonia and makhonovist Ukraine?

>Starting discussions with them
Yes please! This is exactly why Sup Forums has grown so fast - because we're right, which naturally leads to blowing the fuck out of anyone who tries to argue with us. There's only so many times your ideology gets a new asshole ripped into it before you start to think that maybe you were wrong.
How do you think most of us ended up on the right anyway?

>Jews fighting capitalist Jews
tink me really maed

Hey at least were winning the revolution in Rojava.

Hello fellow comrades I am here for free stuff

What about them?

>Not being anarcho-jeb
This is why you fail

Anarchist societies that worked until they got crushed by fascists.

>lasted less than a generation
>worked

>killed by fascist's
>failed because of an inherent flaw in anarchism

Here's an idea. Why doesn't 4/pol/ raid leftypol on cripplechan? They wouldn't see a counterattack coming. There's way more of us and also communists in general are retarded so it would easy to sway them to the right. It wouldn't take long, however their mods would probably delete our threads. Funny how they think 4/pol/ is an echo chamber

They have been. Lots of anarcho-feminists and nazi's on /leftypol/

>susceptibility to destruction
You really are autistic teens

Even if it was a camp of capitalist freedom fighters they still couldn't have fought off Franco's army.

/leftypol/ is just a continuous Sup Forums raid.
It would be just another day in the neighborhood.

>a capitalist country has never been destroyed by an invading army
Whoops, looks like Capitalism can not sustain itself. Too weak. Time to give up.

But there is undeniable proof on leftypol that their users make threads here. Just look at over half the picture ITT.

Jeb Bush and Alt Right, dont think so.

probably, but Sup Forums has been making threads there since the beginning.
I'd say it's to be expected.

You have no idea what he's capable of.

and yet you won't find one raid thread on Sup Forums but about 3 on leftypol, interesting

Hello comrades

Your comments are bullshit.
Ive seen this exact thread 3 weeks now, every day.
I get every time the same faggotory explanation that real communism never existed.
The spainfag literally discussed with me, why it was right (fuck his whore mother for that statement) to kill 5 mil. Russian for a Communist Revolution.

Fuck you spineless degenerates.
Nobody likes you here.

Oh, it happens, but you don't really need to have raid threads when raiding leftypol is almost a hobby to a dedicated group of shitposter.
Cross board shitposting has been a thing since forever. 8 Sup Forums tried to crush /leftypol/ in its infancy.

Hi.

Fuck off, scum, you commies destroyed my country!

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