Reminder that (((christianity))) is an alien, desert religion, that should fuck off from Evropa.
Reminder
t. Varg
Not an argument
How can you deny the positive impact Christianity has had on Economic and Societal development? Would you rather have been born a slave on a wealthy Patrician's plantation?
This.
>Jews are God chosen people
Are you reading the fucking Torah?
The Bible clearly say that all Christians are the Chosen people, not Jews since they are infidel who reject Jesus Christ.
Also Christianity is not a Jewish religion.
Judaism came after Christianity but you're probably reading Jewish history
Wow, christianity sure is making some economic and societal progress in Latin america and Africa. Thanks for opening my eyes, shlomo.
Where's your god now, pagan?
Judaism didn't come after christianity, you fucking retard
Varg thinks Romans weren't white. After all, Caesar had brown eyes and the Valeria were predisposed to dark hair and eyes the same as a number of other patrician and older plebeian families.
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It actually is though. The few good Africans you will meet are those who went through the Catholic education system they put in place. One of the most reactionary and traditionalist Catholic cardinals is an African.
Yes it did... Stop reading pro-Judaism historians....
You must be new here if you think Judaism is really that old like they tell you they are.
Jews don't descend from the Ancient people of Judah, you fucking idiot
Europe was making economic and societal development because Europe was european. Period. No jewish, bullshit doctrine changed that. Europe is not making societal and economic development by worshipping a dead kike on a stick, by turning the other cheeks, showing great commandment (which includes all people, because we are all god's children; you basically has to show great commandment to a nigger, as you are both christians. Good luck sharing heaven with Bwambales and Juans) etc.
wow so european
Alright, so do I hail Jupiter now?
Christianity is the truest, most tastiest red pill.
Second temple judaism=535 BC
Abraham=1600-1800 BC
Don't talk shit about Christianity or i'll come there and beat you into a pulp myself
t. muslim
>le rome fell because of christianity meme
Worse than, "the Christian Dark Ages" tbqh
Protestant asceticism was crucial to the development of modern capitalism which is why Catholic nations are usually less wealthy and developed. As for Africa...well it's Africa.
Then how do you explain the fact that Germanic/Nordic societies were less advanced than those in Southern Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East until fairly recently in history?
>Ahmed
Kill yourself nigger
>He think Jews are related to the ancient temple and Abraham
Cute.
Keep being that bluepill.
Also, you say you were developed just because being European and Christianity didn't have a rol on that? AHAHAH Yes, Vikings were sooo developed living in little huts like Africans
yes beleiving in something with no evidence and a history of corruption and violence is the ultimate red pill. seriously, kys
You're right. Those Africans are not European. That same cardinal I was talking about agrees with you.
>m-muh violent christians
KYS
you pagan larpers disgust me
>positive impact Christianity has had on Economic and Societal development
Like...?
Why are you shills always so vague on this?
Daily reminder that Christianity is the true redpill and the foundation that western civilization was built on.
this
You are thinking of Greece and Rome m8
Right Wing politics are concerned with the long-term survival of Civilization
Christianity is only concerned with personal salvation to become part of a nebulous afterlife for which no evidence exists, and for which this world needs to be sacrificed, which is best expressed in the way early christians like Martin of Tours refused to fight enemies of their nations, insofar killing in this world could cost them heaven
When Jesus says "if they take your coat, let them have your shirt as well", "do not resist evil", "I have come to turn a man against his own household", "if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't follow me", "love your enemies, pray for your persecutors", "the meek will inherit the Earth", "those that wanna die will live", "blessed are those the persecuted, for they will be my Kingdom", "do not save treasures for tomorrow", "carry your cross so that you can receive eternal reward", "Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you'll have treasure in heaven", "it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for the rich to enter Heaven", "Woe to you who are well fed, Woe to you who laugh, for you will mourn and weep"...
... he is not kidding, or meaning the opposite, but actually setting down a morality where the world is a lie and only the afterlife is the real deal, so destroying your life in this world, "carrying your cross" as he says, is completely logical
Sup Forums "christians" seem to believe Jesus actually meant the OPPOSITE of all that, and that Jesus wants you to defend your family, that Jesus wants you to kill your enemies, to become prosperous, well-fed and rich in this world, and to avoid persecution and death!
>That same cardinal I was talking about agrees with you.
What's his name and where does he live?
Only a person that does not actually believe in the Heaven for the persecuted, the meek, and the martyred would actually re-interpret Christianity as a cult of earthly power which declares "the strong shall inherit the Earth", "my kingdom is of this world" and "you must destroy the enemies of your nation"
Only some one that just wanna use Christianity as an empty shell devoid of any true religious promises would claim that Paul and Peter misinterpreted Jesus when they submitted to their enemies and died to them while praying for them, instead of fighting the romans back and establishing a crusader kingdom, thing that one would expect them to do if Jesus meant "be a fighter and impose your will on your enemies" when he said "love your enemies and lend all they need to them without expecting anything in return"
But using Christianity as a shell devoid of any religious promises simply allows its poisonous morality to survive into the next generation.
You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "I didn't come to bring peace", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing what Jesus wanted is for them to put christian morality above the good-being of their own families.
You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "Buy a sword", but you can't stop them from reading the next chapter and realizing that Jesus stopped Peter from using the sword to fight and defeat the romans, and reprimanded him for misunderstanding, all while asking him to carry his own cross (Peter, fully realizing that Jesus meant all the stuff about embracing death and his kingdom was not of this world, that angelic chariots were not going to slay his enemies and bring him victory, realized he was doomed, and would then deny Jesus 3 times)
daily reminder that America was built on slavery.
things change for the better. just because western founders were christian doesn't mean we still should be
1. Why was it crucial
2. a) Because they settled hundreds of years before Nordics settled, thus having an advantage in development. They settled 1000 years before nordics, but was only 500 years ahead. Hmmmm really activates the neurotical cells. Rome and Greece was developed and build great empires BEFORE they were christians. How do you explain that, Juan?
You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because ""Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing that Jesus was asking them, not to destroy their enemies, but to not put in risk their own moral position by criticizing others. You may want them to believe that Jesus, in the middle of a speech about not judging other people and sharing, suddenly decided that speak against the muslims that didn't even exist back then!
That is not going to fly.
Sooner or later, your "strict catholic crusader" state will be reformed into liberalism, because the Gospel will still exist, because your children, like Peter, will realize that Jesus meant it when he said "you are to be persecuted and martyred for me", that Jesus didn't say "you will live in a stable and powerful civilization, free of oppresion and death, thanks to me".
Not being White doesn't mean anything is automatically trash, see the Japanese.
Okay, Ahmed
Christianity can't cure a disease it caused
Pagan Romans were fundamentally free of the chains of jewish power, so much that they almost exterminated them all in their own homeland after the rebellion of Bar Kocheba
It would be Christian Europe that would fall under permanent jewish influence, with the jewish-controlled churches banning europeans from financing and loaning, giving them as a monopoly to jews
By the modern era, Christians were so throughly judaized, that they started to actively wish for the restoration of Israel so that the end of the world would finally come around and their civilization would die!
And why would it be otherwise?
A religion which such obsession with death, with promise is the end of the world, is fundamentally a time-bomb in the basement of a civilization
Do you really believe that the early christians that embraced their martyrhood to the lions said to themselves "I am dying to this lion so that the white race can survive, fuck jews!" or any such anachronistic reinterpretation that you have decided to give to their death cult?
Christian universalism is the foundation of liberalism, humanism and left-wing thought in general.
Europe became great because Europe was white and European. The renaissance occurred after people began to abandon Christian philosophy and thought in favor for older pagan teachings (chiefly lost texts from Greece that byzantine refugees brought with them after the fall of Constantinople, an event that Christians helped along.
Christian Teutons ignored the conquest of their supposed brothers in the faith by Mongols.
Christian Crusaders weakened the Eastern Roman Empire, leaving it vulnerable to Ottoman conquest.
Please stop with the LARPing. Religion is secondary to politics and race.
>Like
Modern economies, modern governments, fair systems of laws, development of the sciences...I could go on but you get the point that many modern institutions and ideas you take for granted are based in the teachings of Christianity.
Jews are a very successful group that has become successful by monopolising finances through ethnic networking and promoting ideologies that demonize their own actions so that the goyim won't copy their success
so they promote anti-nationalistic Communism among the goyim while endorsing Zionism for themselves
is there any wonder that they promoted universalist Christianity among the goyim while endorsing Judaism for themselves?
then christians wonder why Jews dominate them!
>posting the edit
Ashkenazi jews origin in ancient israel. All semite scum must fucking die.
Robert Sarah, he has worked in Rome since he was appointed there, but his permanent residence is in Africa.
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>I could go on
Go on by explaining how Christianity is responsible for that. You're still vague as fuck and I think it's deliberate.
I mean, "modern governments"? Both democracy and the republic are older than Christianity. "Fair system of laws" - what defines "fair"?
>many modern institutions and ideas you take for granted are based in the teachings of Christianity.
Name the institutions and ideas and connect them with the teachings, shouldn't be too hard.
Christianity and it's weak pussy "turn the other cheek" bullshit, is the foundation of the problems we face now. They made europeans weak, and sooner or later it had to come crashing down.
thanks for coming by and dropping those red pills m8
to believe that Christianity is about making and defending empires strong is absurd
Why did Saint Augustine write that it was not a christian concern the existence or not of wordly kingdoms?
Why were Christians unable to save even their fucking holy land from the Muslims, if they are the religion of earthly power that you believe they are?
Why is the North Africa now muslim, if it was once christian and roman?
That they didn't manage to screw things completely over was an accident of history, not for lack of trying
and most importantly of all questions, why has Christianity become an enabler of the muslim invasion of Europe, if it is such religion of earthly power and "the strong will inherit the Earth" as you seem to believe?
why are all the christian mainstream churches pro-refugee, if christian doctrine says "hate your enemy, and do not lend to them all they want" instead of the opposite as you claim?
The strange thing is that "christians" like you are a minority within Christianity itself that they claim to represent, with everyone from the Pope to the Anglican Churches to the Protestant Churches to the Greek Orthodoxs actively cucking for the destruction of the West
The Pope literally points to the same verses that I do to justify his doctrine, yet you come here to tell me that he is wrong, and I am wrong, and even damn Jesus and paul were wrong tho, because some medieval crusader decided to recreate christianity as a earthly cult of power in order to sack Constantinople!
good OP
Romans were Mediterraneans, not something as vague as "white".
>Huurrrrr burrd uuurrr durrrr jews killed christ, jews are anti-christianity
1. Christianity roots in second temple judaism
2. Even if jews were fucking faggot cunts, you still have to follow the words of the almighty lord (((christ))): Love your enemy and forgive those who wish to bring evil upon you, goyim!
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>ITT heathens
1. The Protestant Ethnic encourages individuals to make money, not for the purpose of greed, but because success was a sign of eternal salvation in a religion that believes in determinism.
2. I would like you to explain this point more since there is evidence of prehistoric settlement in Nordic nations so I"m not entirely sure what you're talking about.
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>made the Europeans weak
Ya. All that warfare in Christian Europe never happened. The entire world wasn't colonized by these Christian nations that are only now in decline.
Dont be retarded. The initial period of weakness in Europe was caused by the collapse of Rome in the face of corruption and mass immigration. Christianity had nothing to do with. Also what would I go back to? Roman Paganism was dead to mystery cults and foreign gods long before Christianity took hold.
This.
Yeah.
Christianity is foreign
That was in spite of christianity. If they went to war, they weren't true christians, and definitely weren't following the word of christ.
>literally cosmopolitan rhetoric
Good goy
nah. they are "mestizo" or directly European
>look at how much I don't fall for Jewish tricks like you stupid christians did
>now look at this Jewish depiction of your lord
loving every laugh
Looks pretty Jewish to me.
>America was built on cotton
>I, a man who openly claims Christianity is bad, will tell you if you are Christian or not
I'm sure you're an excellent theologian, but War is perfectly fine if fought for the right reasons.
>Go on by explaining how Christianity is responsible for that. You're still vague as fuck and I think it's deliberate.
No, you're just pretending not to understand basic concepts because you have no real argument and want me to explain simple things until you find a fault to point out.
>I mean, "modern governments"? Both democracy and the republic are older than Christianity.
You can't deny the influence of Enlightenment Philosophers on defining what rights a subject has and how a sovereign can justify its right to rule.
>Name the institutions and ideas and connect them with the teachings, shouldn't be too hard.
I did in that post, work on your reading comprehension.
1. Capitalism started in renaissance Italy
2. Obviously, when people settled in the south and the rest had to move thousands of kilometres further and establish themselves in much harsher climates, obviously they'd be at a disadvantage
>1. Capitalism started in renaissance Italy
>A jew
>Looks like a european
Yeah i call bullshit on that
>Capitalism started in renaissance Italy
Modern Capitalism didn't which is heavily tied into the Industrial Revolution.
Your theory of resettlement still doesn't explain why the natives of Germanic and Nordic lands didn't develop advanced civilizations.
>Enlightenment Philosophers
People wanting to stop basing society on Christianity are your pro-Christianity argument, really?
>I did in that post
Stop bearing false witness, user.
Because it's easier to build an empire in fertile lands and not on ice and rocks.
Does it look to anyone else like the nigger is reading a newspaper in the thumbnail and then it turns out to be that muddies hijab? Every time I see this I can't unsee it.
>that
>European
Wew lad.
He is clearly Semitic. Like the native non-Arab population of Israel and Lebanon used to be. Remember that they're descendant of the Phonencian people.
>People wanting to stop basing society on Christianity are your pro-Christianity argument, really?
There's an obvious difference between being against the Catholic Church's absolute teachings (which the Enlightenment was really a reaction against) and being against Christianity as a whole.
It was also against monarchies. I'm not saying it was right, you're a heretic harry, but they're definitely not anti-Christian like Sven here thinks.
Yes, but that difference still doesn't make it pro-Christian.
You still haven't answered my question by the way.
>Yes, but that difference still doesn't make it pro-Christian.
In what way? Their ideas were still indebted to Protestant teachings.
>You still haven't answered my question by the way.
Like what? I'd be happy to clarify.
>In what way? Their ideas were still indebted to Protestant teachings.
What ideas, what teachings?
>Like what? I'd be happy to clarify.
You weren't so happy in this post But since you're happy to clarify now, go for it.
Fuck off (((Varg)))!
Go eat your own shit in praise to your inferior Odin!
Jews are not the Chosen people since they rejected the Oath by rejecting Jesus Christ!
>What ideas, what teachings?
Individualism, Empiricism, Liberalism (not the contemporary definition), Modern Capitalism just off the top of my head.
Also, what specifically in my post do you need clarified?
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>Also, what specifically in my post do you need clarified?
The part where Christian teachings (and which ones) are responsible for it.
It's funny how suddenly these degenerate things become a positive when talking to a Christian on Sup Forums by the way.
Look, im christian, but you are a retard or just baiting. Jesus was a jew, Joseph was a jew, Maria was a jew too.
The thing is that Jesus gave relevance to the poor and the humble, regardless their race
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Northern Europe was like white niggerdome before Christianity put it on the path of God fearing greatness.
Bottom line is:
without the light of Christ Europe is a spread ass-hole for any old nomadic cunts (kikes included)...
This.
see
You can post incomplete quotes from the Gospel, but you can't prevent people from reading the rest
>The part where Christian teachings (and which ones) are responsible for it.
Specifically, the Protestant reformation which led to Philosophers questioning many aspects of society.
Philosophers have been questioning many aspects of society long before Joseph got cucked by god, user.
My problem with Christianity is that God comes across as an asshole.
One of the first stories is him creating a giant flood to kill humankind.
Really? An all-loving god would do something like that?
Fuck his faggot ass. He tried to kill us but we were too resourceful.
He sent down his son and we killed that faggot.
If anything this god guy seems like our enemy.
>Europe was at its peak when Christianity was at its peak here
>America was at its peak when Christianity was at its peak there
>China will soon be the most Christian nation on earth. They too, will soon be at their peak.
Sage this Pagan thread.
t. CDU voter
And? Do you think that blasphemy can sway my faith?
Follow the way of Jesus and certainly I am following the Jesus I read.
Bold, Assertive and certainly someone not afraid to voice his opinion.
You will post your bias post
And I will too.
Nice argument.
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