North Korea is an ethno-nationalist state, that forbids race mixing. They are not commies.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
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Kayden Cruz
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Christopher Gomez
It prevents the concentration of wealth in the hands of people who just spend money and receive more money.
Aiden Rodriguez
if i see ideology that triggers my bitch feelings i wont post them either
its just 4k senpai barely anything
Alexander Howard
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Kevin Gomez
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Jose Rivera
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Mason Flores
>Bohm-Bawerk didn't understand what the fuck he was reading, because Marx was a sloppy, disjointed writer. Bawerk's been btfo by Kliman and many others.
But he wasn't at all lmao
Kliman just repeating the same idiotic marxist theories without addressing any of bawerks criticisms.
Why do socialists think they will gain anything from taking over the means of production?
Why are they stupid enough to think their personal material wealth will somehow increase when in reality it won't?
This is probably the biggest hole in socialist theories yet hardly anyone here talks about it.
>communist revolution >take every last penny from capitalists >divided up amongst everyone it works out to about $500 per person(yes that little) >go to spend that money >prices increase because no new consumer goods are produced in this situation >workers are in the same exact situation they were the revolution but now the economy is completely destroyed
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>communist revolution >every consumer good the capitalists own is split up and given to the workers >it's such an extremely small amount of goods that not even 1% of workers will be able to get any of this
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>communist revolution >money is abolished >workers take over the means of production completely >the same exact quantity of consumer goods that was being produced under capitalism are again produced >the working class has to work JUST AS HARD and JUST AS LONG as they did under capitalism to produce the same amount of shit they were previously consuming and this scenario is forgetting about the economic calculation problem and the fact economies like this never work.
Either way you go about this there's no getting "MUH SURPLUS VALUE" back. 99.5% of the consumer goods the working class was producing was already being consumed and owned by the working class, not the capitalists. The capitalists own only extremely small amounts of consumer goods(houses, cars boats, tvs, food, porn, medicine) compared to what the whole working class owns.
YET WE HEAR NOTHING OF THE JEWS OR BANKS BEING THE SOURCE OF THE ISSUE
get fucking real retard
Brandon Harris
Because capitalism doesn't work once automation advances so far that people are now un-employable. The system incentivizes automation of labor, which is good in the short-term, it makes everyone better off. But what happens longer-term when no one can work anymore? That is, in short why I support socialism, because if we reach a point in the future (and we will) where production is 100% automated, then no one can buy the things that are produced anymore.
Communism is anarchist-socialism, I think that at a certain point, a government shouldn't be involved anymore, because once people can just print anything they want, the government serves no purpose. Especially when technology will be advanced enough to stop crimes like murder.
Joseph Russell
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Parker Gonzalez
What happens if Maldraw didn't com and ruin our fun >you gain an amazing artist to make you memes >you stop getting triggered and gain a comrade >i become your best friend 4 thousand dollars a month to some hardcore autist immune to the commie manifesto is all it takes so we can stop this Sup Forums nazishit madness
We ought to make one of those infographs for fascism >Under fascism, the means of production are controlled by the nation >Under fascism, technology is used to empower the people and nation. Citizens still go to work, but the amount of work they are capable of getting done is vastly improved with new technology. >Under fascism, the working day is optimized to be as natural to the human psyche as possible. Laziness and lack of purpose is avoided through a fair amount of work, but excessive amounts of work is done away with, allowing time for other activities exercising, child-raising, religious activities, and becoming mentally and culturally enriched. >Under fascism workers are paid according to what is most beneficial to the nation as a whole. Since increased wages stop increasing happiness past a certain point, that money can instead be spent improving the nation for the benefit of the people. >Under fascism, the government has the role of improving the nation, with different solutions appropriate to the unique situation of the nation. No two governments will look the same, because no two cultures and nations are the same. >Fascism- Economic system in which the means of production is owned privately by individuals, but subject to the needs of the state through regulation and oversight.
Angel Garcia
What jobs will be left when robots can do all the work humans can? brain labor is completely automate-able, and physical labor is also completely automate-able.
All that's left is human personality, but this is based around sponsorships. Who is sponsoring the now 7 billion vloggers that exist?
Jose Nelson
Sources showing that antigun is anti logic reason and evidence >Harvard study detailing how gun control is counter productive and a waste of valuable police resources
usnews.com/news/articles/2013/06/25/study-using-guns-for-defense-leads-to-fewer-injuries >Citing four separate studies between 1988-2004, the assessment from the Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council says crime victims who use guns in self-defense have consistently lower injury rates than victims who use other strategies to protect themselves (other strategies include stalling, calling the police or using weapons such as knives or baseball bats).
businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-27/how-often-do-we-use-guns-in-self-defense >Hemenway finds more reliable an annual federal government research project, called the National Crime Victimization Survey, which yields estimates in the neighborhood of 100,000 defensive gun uses per year. Making various reasonable-sounding adjustments, other social scientists have suggested that perhaps a figure somewhere between 250,000 and 370,000 might be more accurate.
>then no one can buy the things that are produced anymore. Yes they can lol.
The cost of these resources would be EXTREMELY fucking cheap that ANYONE could start their own firm cheaply.
Marx was fucking retarded.
Colton Perry
pissing off salty inbred autists is pretty fun actually. i wish i can do this all year long
Connor Nguyen
do you really think I care to debate you? You're at the intellectual level of a middle schooler.
Jonathan Edwards
>trusting mercenaries Do I look like a crapitalist to you?
Joseph Rogers
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Grayson Young
>What jobs will be left when robots can do all the work humans can? brain labor is completely automate-able, and physical labor is also completely automate-able. If we ever reach 100% automation then prices would be ZERO anyway and nobody would have to work.
socialism is not necessary
Alexander Perez
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Nicholas Sanchez
Most systems are capable of dealing with automation. Capitalism has UBI, fascism has retraining programs and conscription, and socialism has nationalized production. Socialism and communism are not unique in their ability to adapt to the future.
Julian Parker
Are you the same Canadian I was arguing with in the last thread?
I already explained multiple times why that is a foolish argument.
Bentley Cooper
why dont you google search him and post some of his art here you little bitchboy?
Carson Perez
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Leo Gutierrez
>theory
Ryder Hill
That is socialism. You are literally arguing for socialism right now. You are saying "socialism is not necessary, because once 100% automation happens we'll have socialism. God socialists are so stupid."
Benjamin Thompson
>I already explained multiple times why that is a foolish argument. No you didn't I destroyed your childish theories and you kept repeating them over and over.
Embarrassing.
Refute what I JUST said. You can't.
Henry Hill
>robots literally take people's jobs no they don't. Capital just produces a greater and greater share of wealth as automation advances
Nolan Wood
>crapitalist AT LAST I TRULY SEE THE LIGHT OF COMMUNISM! YOUR BOLD AND BRILLIANT REBUTTAL OF CAPITALISM HAS ENLIGHTENED MY CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS!
Robert Flores
post link to patreon please
Caleb Bennett
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Bentley Brooks
>once 100% automation happens how do any of you Sup Forums retards take this poster seriously?
Josiah Cruz
>That is socialism. No, that's NOT fucking socialism. It has nothing to do with socialism. Socialism has no role in the creation of such a thing.
When capitalism inevitably creates 100% automation it's neither socialism or capitalism. It's just the end of economics.
Shoot yourself in the fucking head you child.
Liam Green
At this point you really should have just paid him to fuck off desu
Jose Perry
Fuck need, I want.
Anthony Nguyen
>inevitably oh, so this thread is more of a retard containment thread, for all the retards to debate. got it
Elijah Nelson
Can you believe these marxists still fucking exist.
Their entire theories are based off science denial.
They ACTUALLY BELIEVE all human behavior is the result of economic and social forces. They are actually that fucking retarded.
