Booze: Sex with whatever moves, beat wife, hungover work performance is shit, potential alcohol poisoning...

Booze: Sex with whatever moves, beat wife, hungover work performance is shit, potential alcohol poisoning, loss of motor skills, poor judgement, destroys physical appearance.

Pot: Thinks deeply, avoids large social groups, questions authority, better concentration, longer attention span, treats cancer, treats glaucoma, used for pain management, conspiracy theories, spacetime, reserved.

yea after years of regular use pot fucked with my emotions and mind. redpiled amirite?? :^)

spoiler alert, you were always a pussy, digits and kys

Everyone i know who drinks (in moderation) at 40 is successful
Everyone i know who smokes pot at 40 lives with their parents.

Brewing your own is redpilled.

I smoke pot then watch Finding Bigfoot.

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hey same here, glad (I guess) to hear that I'm not the only one. It changes the way you think permanently.

>pot
anxiety, communism, accepting of nigger culture, degenerate culture
>alcohol
sociable, sophisticated, relaxing, essential part of high society

All I'm going to say is that without weed, I wouldn't have gone down some of the rabbit holes I have - the ones that lead to redpills. It also pisses off the Jews in the pharmaceutical industry while raising tax revenue. My girl likes it because I can fuck forever while stoned too.

k bud

Let me move in with you ;_;

I know too many people that smoke pot, it's nearly everyone I associate with, it makes them lazy pieces of shit.

It makes them stupid, they get into car accidents, they sit around all day doing nothing, often not even talking, they just sit, being high, throwing away enough money to be renting an apartment, all for this mental state they can't go without.

It doesn't matter if it's addictive or not when you're trading work out supplements and belongings for the sought after mental state.

If you need it you're weak, if you don't need it don't touch it, it's just a shit crutch.

You can think deeply and more intelligently and meaningfully if you wish it, sober.

You can question authority when you're a spoiled cunt teenager, don't need pot for that.

My friends and their relatives that are seasoned smokers are the shortest attention spanned motherfuckers you've ever met, and their concentration isn't very impressive either.

Makes for indecisive retards.

I think it should be legal, to own and to grow, it's not right the way things are set up right now, however it is still degenerate as fuck and should be met with great stigma in any respectable society.

I need to quit the booze.

I've gotten better at drinking less, but the enamel on my teeth is fucked and I have constant indigestion.

>better concentration
>longer attention span
I literally have a mate who smokes regularly who can't be arsed to watch a movie, let alone TV shows, because he loses focus or gets bored.
Fuck outta here with that shit.

the true redpill

DMT: transcend reality, travel inbetween dimensions

this

man u should see my enamel, its the best i swear, i stopped drinking about a month ago along with ciggies and weed and my enamel, amazing, id say its some of the best enamel

both degenerate imo,
but its your body do with it w/e you want.

You don't know what it's like to have to avoid all sugar because it makes your teeth hurt uncontrollably.

your right i dont know what thats like, but i dont eat sugar either

>I literally have a mate who smokes regularly who can't be arsed to watch a movie, let alone TV shows, because he loses focus or gets bored.
To each his own I guess. I like indulging in it before watching an old classic like Ben-Hur or Lawrence of Arabia, it makes me hang off every line of dialogue and the ~3 hour run times feel like they go by too fast.

Finding Bigfoot did an episode where they went to the Harwood Forest. They made them wear kilts and they got attacked by Midges. I watched that real high and couldn't stop laughing.

>legal pot in my state
>most of them drop outs
>they love to hang out with buds and smoke, piss on people's homes and act like assholes in front of kids
>most of them in therapy and groups by court order
>can't carry a conversation, if they try they just talk about how great it is getting high
>impatient and hot tempered, especially without more weed
>used for satisfying addiction

Doesn't treat cancer, probably carcinogenic. All are degenerate, but at least drinkers aren't smug about their vices and act like they're doing good by getting trashed.

>they sit around all day doing nothing, often not even talking, they just sit

to be honest this is what I do anyways. Wintertime is fun

Pot smokers are annoying as fuck and are usually high 24/7.
>DUDE this weed is SO DANK, smell it bro
>BRO lets get some fucking pizza, I am so fucking hungry BRO
>YO MAN did you know that weed cures cancer?
>HAHAHAHA-cough-HAHAHAH, check out this video man, it's so fucking funny

>pizza
When I'm high I watch Gordon Ramsey videos and make gourmet food.

That looks expensive but unfilling as fuck.

>Drug users
>Deep thinkers

Really made me think

I can sympathize
The problem is that these recreational drugs should be used for celebrating only the rarest of occasions if they are suited for you, today we have degenerates celebrating every second of their lives, knowing nothing about self control or discipline.

They try to spend as much time celebrating as they can when there's nothing valid to celebrate, this applies to overeating, drunks, etc.

But the thing about pot, is they can actually celebrate 24/7 as you said, without harsh consequences like binge drinking or not realize the consequence, or not care, because they just keep getting high.

>A bunch of garnishes with pepper and olive oil on top

That's not a meal.

Where's the meat?

I think I might be in the same situation desu. After 2 years of smoking 3-4 nights a week, life just feels dull and lackluster. Quit for 3 months and nothing changed. I am a flat, emotionless robot now.

weed got me off antidepressants

yeah but if you smoke weed with tobacco you are lower than an animal or a nigger.

>Where's the meat?

While I agree that most if not all self identified stoners are lazy pieces of shit, it has its uses especially in recovering from brain damage due to past alcoholism or ptsd shutdowns.

It also removes the pain experienced by mammals from lack of social contact, great for those of us making a living on computers.

animals are great

The problem is that these political imageboards should be visited for monitoring only the rarest of happenings if they are suited for you, today we have autists shitposting every second of their lives, knowing nothing about self control or discipline.

They try to spend as much time shitposting as they can when there's nothing happening, this applies to kek worshipping, memes, etc.

But the thing about Sup Forums, is they can actually shitpost 24/7 as you said, without harsh consequences like binge drinking or not realize the consequence, or not care, because they just keep getting (you)'s..

T. Man in basement who has never seen someone high

Same. I've read that it can take up to 1½ years for dopamine receptors to gain their former sensitivity, both after recovering from alcoholism & heavy pot usage. This is why it feels worthless to go see a mental health professional yet, if the root of my problem is just temporary desensitization.

Is your life situation now different than it was before you were smoking? I'm mostly isolated now, whereas back then I was studying and had a lot of friends. Definitely not helping the situation.

me too. Feels good man.

Also, this, got me off the literal blue pill and my bitch titties have long gone

Enjoy it while it lasts. Because it won't.

Very well done, almost sound.

Agreed, there is no 5'o-clock stigma for weed, unlike alcohol
I have been around plenty of potheads and they always end up like this after a few months
>ad hominem

I got alcohol poisoning after drinking some alcohol on an emptyish stomach on December 31, spent the entire first day of 2017 vomiting that shit and getting some horrible sweating / chills

Can confirm that alcohol is a shit tier drug that only edgelord traditionalist fags and worthless normies care about

Same with the isolation, went from a fraternity dudebro that liked parties to an isolated sperg that is annoyed by all of my old friends. I've been ignoring their calls/texts for so long they've pretty much given up trying to hang out with me. Grades have stayed good though, I always used marijuana (((responsibly))) as a reward when all of my schoolwork was completed

Sobriety is the ultimate redpill.

Weed is 100x better then alcohol and if u disagree u probably beat children

Beer is pretty okay.

>Substance abuse of any kind
>redpilled
Pick one

Now that I'm older I have to admit that beer tastes pretty good, there's lots of flavor variety as well. Hard liquor does suck though

>ad hom
I wouldn't start bringing up fallacies, since you are currently employing more than a few in your "argument".

Don't use either to excess - but both can be fun in moderation. Unfortunately moderation can be difficult.

Currently quitting pot after smoking most days for a little over two years straight.

First week is hard because I'm not used to dreaming and I get nightmares (>tfw dreams where brother is still alive), now I'm past that part but notice myself getting agitated pretty easily.

Alcohol is tougher to drop because pretty much all social interactions for 20 somethings revolve around it but I'm cutting back on that too. Much better for my budget (I live in LA so blowing 200+ on booze at bars in a weekend isn't that tough) - trying to get to the point where when I'm drinking I never have more than 5 drinks. Never have had an issue drinking on non-weekends though.

Cleaning up my act is easier now that I'm further removed from college when I was total fuckhead, further removed from brother's death, and in a relationship which removes some of that existential angst that can drive the need to smoke/drink.

Isolation is the worst, especially when unemployed. Days just fly by without me doing much or feeling much. 3-4 nights a week for a couple of years doesn't sound that bad though, I positively believe you will feel much better by summer or by the end of the year.

I foolishly spent a couple of years smoking multiple times every day. It was fun, but now it's not.

They have different ways of destroying your life when abused. It's often said that weed causes much more subtle destruction than alcohol, and I definitely agree with that.

Weed makes you retarded. You think your being really deep but your just contemplating the sober obvious half the time. Same with psychedelics I feel.

i smoke weed everyday.

Anyone struggling with pot withdrawals: I warmly recommend L-tyrosine. It is a safe amino acid which is used by your body to replenish dopamine. Megadosing tyrosine does wonders for the initial withdrawal symptoms. They don't help much the post acute withdrawal symptoms though.

I hope it's lethal doses of THC.
lol!

I used to smoke weed all the time and rarely drank at all. But I found that as time went on, the weed high was less fun and far more anxious. At first I just wouldn't smoke at parties because I felt like an asshole since I couldn't really socialize because I'd be lost in my thoughts. Then I stopped smoking by myself because I'd start getting anxious about the state of the world and other shit. Beer is just more fun and relaxing. Maybe it's an age thing, I've noticed a lot of people seem to gravitate away from weed as they get older.

I did however notice that after I stopped my sleep cycle improved along with my general mindstate. I was a lot less apathetic or bored with life.

As for alcohol, the world of beer is amazing when you dive into it. Check out your local breweries and even start researching how to brew it yourself. I love beer, don't even really get drunk off it anymore, just appreciate a fine brew.

Moderation is key to both.

fact

indeed weed can make concentrating more difficult at times, but if you are conscientious of your highness and of your purpose you can get into a groove that is entirely beneficial

Beating your children is also very redpilled. Weed is a nigger drug.

Thanks Finbro I hope so. Researchers are just now beginning to study the longterm effects of marijuana use, but from everything i've read all signs point to no lasting damage from pot.

In the end I feel we'll both be fine with time, but from what i've read nootropics and b12 vitamins can help expedite the whole process. Don't give up buddy, we're not permafucked

both are proof that God loves us and wants us to be happys and know truth.
Use in moderation as a tool to feel the Love that God wants us to have, is well and good.

Abusing them, using them in excess, making it the focal point of your day, is degenerate.

this one time I took acid I started connecting all the dots

too bad it was a paranoia trip and by the end of it I was convinced every act of every person I had met in the week prior was part of a grand design to ridicule me

so I got suicidal for a couple of days

pro-tip: work on your insecurities before trying acid

One or two drinks per sitting is fine
Any more is degenerate.
Weed is only okay on the weekends.

not really
cannabis was used by doctors in the US before it was illegal
it's a white mans substance

I'm a smart guy so it doesn't make my attention span too much shorter, but the brain fog is just too bad of a trade off. Look at what is going on in the world, I need to be sober and clear headed for this shit. Stopping is not so bad, I just can't sleep for a couple of days.

I'm in the bathroom at work getting high right now watching porn.

[spoiler]I do both on occasion[/spoiler]
I think both are like most things in life; moderation is required.

Other way around. Only Commiefornians and assorted degenerates think otherwise..

I do pot like 3 times a week, acid twice/thrice a month.

It definitely redpills you. Being redpilled isn't happy, you turn into a misanthropic cynical person. It's a symptom of being redpilled, it's not that it makes you sad.

I admit I might be mildly addicted to ritalin though, can't work without it.

>>But the thing about pot, is they can actually celebrate 24/7 as you said, without harsh consequences like binge drinking or not realize the consequence, or not care, because they just keep getting high.

This corrects itself. When you are not tolerant at all and only use it occasionally, it is quite an experience. When you use it every day you become very tolerant and soon the effects are not nearly as percievable as before, it is almost like nicotine or coffee. It sucks so bad then, you use it, it's not that great and you get some energy, then you get tired and you got to waste more money by using even more.

It inhibits the part of the brain responsible for ambition too, which is horrible.

Meh, as long as its medium rare I'll take it

>You think your being really deep but your just contemplating the sober obvious half the time

You grow out of that but I think it is true.

Get back to the fryer, steven. Those happy meals don't make themselves happy

with a dildo?

Yeah, I'm under that same impression too. It's just a matter of brain getting used to certain kind of stimulus and having to give it time to recalibrate.

Meditation or any other kind of concentration exercise will probably help too. This is just my theory, but when you think about it, weed kind of makes it easier to focus and get enjoyment out of things. Could it be that over time the mind learns to give less effort in the form of forced attention, because weed makes everything interesting enough to guarantee attention anyways?

If this is true, then it makes sense that once you've stopped using weed, deliberately training attention will retrain the mind and willpower to give enough sustained attention for your normal daily activities. Much like running at moderate pace becames effortless once you've done it for a week or two.

you don't wake up, puke, and check your phone to make sure you didn't ruin your life when you've gone to bed high on weed.

alcohol is FAR more damaging. i've abused both at different points in my life. alcohol wrecks the body and mind. weed makes stuff you already enjoy a bit better for a brief time.

If I figured out I was paying someone x amount of money, expecting a return of ~2x amount of money, and I found out one of my employees was getting high on the job, I would fire him.

Yeah they often complain about the diminishing returns of smoking pot constantly, they would get more out of it if they used it occasionally, yet they still throw away their time and money on the shit.

It definitely looks like it's trying to correct itself but they don't seem to care about money/pot efficiency, they spend and smoke just as much if not more.

specially if you caught him with that dirty pink dildo amirite?

>Sounds like this leaf is judging something he doesn't use
>You admit in your first sentence nearly everyone you associate with is a lazy piece of shit.

I've been pot free for 13 months now, coming off 8 years of habitual use. 5 years almost 24/7 being high. Don't know if this is true yet.

The reason pollacks come here and sperg out with their neo nazi alt right bullshit that cries out lonely and lost is because these squares dont smoke weed. They maybe tried it once or twice in their life. Sucked miserably at it and went back to being beta squares.

You can drink a fine whiskey.
You can smoke a fine pipe or cigar.
You can't smoke a fine blunt.

Smoking (cigars and pipes) and alcohol (Wines and spirits) has class and elegance to them, something weed will never have.

Well it's insanity isn't it? I would know. Time and time again I told myself to use it moderately, and otherwise my ability to defer gratification is fine. But once I start using it I just use it every day. Because the amount required to get high is so small it seems like no big deal at first, and you go from there. For me to not just stop and instead trying to use moderately again would be insane, I know what happens time and time again. That is me, I have made up my own mind.

I think it's a one hitter or a pipe, why would he be dildoing himself in the bathroom?

Care to define what "fine" entails?

>You can't fire me cause I quit.
I'd just go on welfare.

You know what's even more redpill? NO SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
"woah guys this thing numbing my brain chemistry doesn't kill my liver BTFO."
If there's benefits to THC or cannabinoids they should be synthesized and studied. I'll even grant that I'd choose a THC pills over opioids for exactly whatever prescribed time is necessary after a procedure or during chemo or whatever. But take your bong and leave.

>I think it's a one hitter
This

the FBI recently had to relax their drug testing standards because they couldn't find enough competent programmers that DIDN'T do drugs

I don't care, I just wouldn't want to be paying you myself, and that is nothing personal. You can't have a profitable business by not making profits everywhere, including with your employees. A high employee is not as productive as a sober one, so maybe I pay you less when high, but I don't know if that kind of negotiation is allowed.

Hhhey mann~

Like, it cures cancer man

Opens ur mind mannnnnnnnnnnn

Both are degenerate you retarded fuck.

Can anyone tell me realistically if weed makes you more productive as a programmer?

A fine whiskey is one which has been masturfully crafted and aged, it is presented in a good looking bottle and is to be experienced. A fine whiskey will have been reviewed by experts and is an all round luxury experience (same with wine and other spirits).
With pipes and cigars it is the same story, high quality products from master crafters which have been reviewed, delivering an experience.
With pipe smoking the pipe used to smokeplays as much of a role as the tobacco.

Hell no. Amphetamines for productivity, psychedelics for theory.