Now that the dust has settled

What went wrong?

communism

Slavic degeneracy

Some people will say it proves the superiority of capitalism. I say, it proves the short-term inferiority of communism. The difference being that capitalism will have the same fate as communism, but just a bit later. Both capitalism and communism are subversive to traditional values. Those being religion, family, and nation. Both capitalism and communism only serve materialistic ends, aiming to make life the easiest for people living in the present, and having no goals beyond that. Their differences are actually trivial. All they desire is for all people to have wealth, they differ only in how this could be accomplished.

The October Revolution

>leaf

Lol

>What went wrong?
communism

True.

they underestimated these men and got strategically outplayed in almost every way that actually mattered

THEY DIDN'T

SINK
THE
CHINKS

no system can last forever, so it's best to bank on the one that's built for actual sustainability (and that kills less people obviously)

fpbp

It switched from a shitty ideology to another shitty ideology.

The Soviet Price Allocation system. All other factors were irrelevant.

The "Cold War"(which began as early as the Russian Civil War, really) was a struggle between Capitalism and Bolshevism( labelled socialism, communism, etc.). People say Capitalism "won", but that's a half truth. The "capitalist" west that existed at the end of the cold war in the 90's were (economically) completely unrecognizable from what they were in the 1920's. The democratic systems in the west allowed the so called "capitalist" west to adopt the best parts of the Socialist system (welfare, some national ownership, high taxes, socialized healthcare/medicine, etc.) The Bolshevik east was exactly the same. The same inefficient price control system, no markets, nothing.

The west evolved beyond capitalism into a mixed system (Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis.). It adopted features from both the Fascist (national-oriented economies over the capitalist and socialist globalist economies, fixed national borders, co-operation between nations, but nations definitively apart etc.) and Socialist systems (taking care of the weakest, increasing social mobility, socialized healthcare and education, taxation of the market system to fund it.) and became something more.

Capitalism, Socialism and Fascism did not survive the 20th century (yeah, there's Cuba, some still exist, but I'm talking about relevant Modern political systems), but something new took from all and became something more: The synthesis of all

Free Markets + Nations + Taking care of the poorest and weakest = Modern society.

>massive multi-ethnic empire with shitty unsustainable economic system
It was basically asking for poverty and balkanization. The only reason it lasted so long is because they purged the crazy Jewish intellectuals and loosened up on the utopianism.

You have to rule with an iron fist, or with zero control. Any intermediate doesn't work, and will eventually fail. The USSR, through perestroika and glasnost, tried to take a "middle path", and from that moment was doomed. The USA in the 50s through about the 70s was more or less lassaiz-faire, and so was relatively stable; since then, and acceleratingly after the fall of the USSR, the government has started to tighten its grip. Once we have achieved Stalin-esque rule, the USA will be eternal, but in the intervening time of lukewarm half-freedom, shit is dicy. The same thing happened in the USSR in the 80s, and we saw what happened to them. Maybe we'll pull through, but probably not.

What went right?
A Jewish state benefitted Jews and the people were slaves, what else?

Fucking Tuvans ruined everything.

>What went wrong?
They didn't kill all the shitskins in the Caucasus and -stans.

/thread