What would be the best outcome?

What would be the best outcome?.

>these countries stay as they currently are
>Flanders leaves Belgium and becomes part of the Netherlands
>Luxembourg joins Belgium
>the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg form Benelux

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Belgium is French clay

Pretty much a non-country.

Split Belgium in half, give Wallonia to France and Flanders to the Dutch

We stay as we are

non issue to be honest

Schild en vriend, SAY IT YOU FILTHY LELIAARD

Why? Flemish and Dutch have very different identities and expectations of what a government should do.

Why would it be given to the Dutchs ? There is no reason for that

DO NOT TOUCH MY COUNTRY REEEEEEE

>"country"

It's already a rump state. Splitting it in half, and leaving Flanders independent only helps the French which is stupid. Besides, doing so would give the Netherlands the largest port in the world, so it helps both sides

Wallonia AND Flanders belong to France

come and take it frog

lazy walloon leech detected

when pic related happens you will have to work filthy freeloader

Don't get greedy Jean, the Flemish are culturally and linguistically closer to the Dutch and you know it. Keep it up and I'll give them both to the Germans

Flanders and Luxembourg to us. No questions.

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>Wallonia AND Flanders belong to France
You are a goddamned retard.

>Best-Vlaming
>een Waal
projecting much

We are not. I feel closer to the Walloons than the Dutch. Only our language and sadly politics differ.

How does an independent Flanders help France? Are they going to conquer us?

As for giving the Netherlands the largest port in the world. There still is Zeeland inbetween Antwerp and Rotterdam which isn't exactly suited for much traffic.

France has never had not ever will it have any claim to Flanders.

>and Luxembourg
Why not to Germany?

It only helps them because they're the only ones getting land.

What is Sup Forums problem ? Don't you have more important things to discuss than belgium being a "non-country" ?
And anyway, this thread sums up what's going on, nobody can agree on what should be done so for now we won't do anything but stay as we are.

Ah yes, land. Have you ever seen Wallonia? Except for Hainaut it's a big hilly forest, unsuitable for building or agriculture. Yes, there's some coal in the ground but no sane European politician still defends coal plants.

native luxembourger here currently stealing a german job.

luxembourg passed on to burgundy in the 15th century and was since then part of first the burgundy netherlands, then the spanish netherlands and then the austrian netherlands.
after the congress of vienna we became independent but our ruler was the dutch king.
when the dutch king only had a female successor we changed the dynasty because luxembourgish law didnt allow female rulers (yeah pretty based, i know) and we became truly independent.
in all that time we developed a sense of unity and dont see ourselves as german or dutch.
but if you'd force us at gun point to choose we'd all pick the dutch

>I feel closer to the Walloons than the Dutch
Mooie Waalpaal

>but if you'd force us at gun point to choose we'd all pick the dutch
Huh, interesting.
Isn't the language closer to German, though?

Those non-countries exist to weaken dutch influence.

>France has never had not ever will it have any claim to Flanders.

The county of Flanders was part of the kingdom of France

Gee, I wonder why?

Flanders to Netherlands,
Wallonia to France.
let Luxembourg vote to join either Germany or France with provisions for regional autonomy

>Isn't the language closer to German, though?
linguistically speaking:it's a german dialect.
luxembourgish is closer to high german than bavarian is.
luxembourg's position in europe is tricky business
one the one hand we started out as a germanic county like you had dozens at the time after charlemagne. we were part of the hly roman empire which had a couple of luxembourgish empererors. when sigismund (the guy who build part of the castle in budapest) died and didnt leave an heir, house luxembourg died out. subsequently we fell to burgundy as i mentionned before and from then on we came under french influence (burgundy though) and we started to drift away from "mainstream" german culture. this continued on and on and since we were then part of the different netherlands that existed throughout history we tend to feel more connected to belgium and the netherléands than any kind of germany.
this alienation finally led to luxembourg not being considered to be part of germany after the declaration of the german empire in 1871, just like other former holy roman empire territories didnt make the cut.
but the germans were still very interested in luxembourg mainly because of it's military importance. the fort of luxembourg was very hard take and was strategically placed between germany and france.
after our independence we remained in the german bund for economic reasons

and then WWI and WWII happened and the eternal kraut killed a lot of us. hence we will never ever choose germany. NEVER!

Flanders Indepedent.
After that we'll join a confederation with the dutch. Where we both keep our own autonomy while cooperating on military level.

De Nederlandse Confederatie

fuck off non country

I have given up my hope of Flanders becoming independent, the Walloons are like a parasite, a cancer, something like aids, you can't rid of them without a good chemotherapy. While Flanders is trying to get rid of the faults the socialists made in the past decades, they continue their communist agenda, and people are too retarded to realise this. Pls nuke us

This would be the ideal scenario.

This is indeed the best scenario.

And what happens to Wallonia?

West-Vlaming hier
We liked your kings as much as you did
nooit met Hollanders samengewerkt zeker? We laten ons hier constant in't zak zetten. Goede buren, maar 'k zou er nooit een land mee vormen.

It's not the best scenario, the best scenario is a united Belgium where we collectively kick out the socialists and Muslims

>kick out socialists
>Almost every walloon is a socialist
wew lad

They're welcome to join if willing, but only if they would vote Geert as well.

Either way, we don't need them, but we can be charitable enough to have them join and liberate the flemish from those french speaking cucks.

checked
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chkeced

That's how you thansk the country that saved your sorry ass so many times ?
Belgium is neither orange's or french's clay

How's it going Jan ? Do you still fuck your sister ? How about your neighboor can you guys understand each other now ? About the money we lent you could you give us back now ?

Non country

Checked

>Hollanders
Dit prikkeld Fries/Zeeuw/Brabander/Zeeuws-Vlaming/Limburger/Sallander/Twentenaar/Drent/Groninger/Achterhoeker/Veluwenaar/Betuwenaar

>Country that resembles Nigeria
>Full of mudslimes
>Calls a white country a non-country
Wew lad

You are just a hater, being recognized by the UN doesn't make you a country

Who cares?

Calm it down Louis

He had digits, you can't deny that he has a point

Nignog detected

Savage

thanx luxbro

OP

also, checked

Skilt & frint

wallonia en Bxl can piss off for all I care

Ben zelf half-nederlands.
Idd vlamingen zijn redelijke cucks ivg met een Nederlander maar liever met een brabander werken dan met een West-vlaming

Ik kan die tenminste verstaan

This

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How about

>The Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg form the United Kingdom. of the Netherlands

Like in the good old days

I really, really, really don't want to share a country anymore with walloons. They're so niggerish it's awfull

I never implied the Walloons would be allowed to live

Belgium is partitioned between France and the Netherlands; Flanders going to the Dutch, and Brussels and Wallonia going to the French.

Noooo, Brussels need to be cleansed of mocros, someday they will see the light and take the pill

>implying

There have been soldiers all over Brussels for almost a year now, yet the people still don't give a shit. If there's ever an awakening it won't be in Belgium.

Why are yuropoors so petty. Is Benelux the size of like New Jersey? I can't imagine going to war with the shore because fags in Hoboken don't like guidos

We don't want the walloons, Luxembourgh and Flanders more than welcome to join the kingdom.

That said, for cultural coherence sake maybe we should go back to being a republic.

I have given up on Brussels, better make a ghetto out of it with military checkpoints to know who gets in and out

> American
> not being able to understand cultural and historical differences

The biggest problem is Brussels are the amount of socialists, they all vote for Ps because they are afraid to lose the welfare they are getting. If Nv-a would win or if open-VLd would win, then the cleansing could begin. Ps is having too much of a force in Belgium and they should be stopped, they ruined our economy and they have been trying everything they can to stop the government from accomplishing anything

Geen zorgen mannen, als het te ver gaat, zullen wij die zandnegers wegjagen

Zandnegers zullen hem niet temmen, die fiere Vlaamse leeuw

Amen

What an over-complicated map.
You know it's you own fault if you let Belgium secede.
Since the revolution we've forced french language on the whole territory. Oïl dialects are dead, only few hundreds of thousands speak Oc dialects and breton. The only local language spoken by more than 50% of a population is corsican. You would have followed the same fate if Napoleon's empire hadn't been dissolved.

If you did the same with Wallonia and Brussel, they would all speak dutch and they wouln't have tried to have their own country.

wrong american retard,as always

Luxemburg was part of the Frankish realm, Holy Roman Empire and after being freed from French occupation part of the German Union. It was continuosly part of Germany since the great migration until the mistake of 1867

Wow, what an informative post. You sure got to the heart of my argument and refuted the central point. Thanks my friend

Belgium splits up:
Wallonia goes to France.
Flandern either goes to the Netherlands or remains a distinct kingdom.
The small German parts (Lüttich and so on) go to Germany.
Brussels is ethnically cleansed and becomes a beautiful city again and is the capital of Flandern.

In the end they all join the German Reich and bow to the Kaiser, but that goes without saying.

I wish Leopold II proceeded with his planned invasion. That way we'd have raped them and reclaimed the whole thing

Yes and then you can start a two front war and everything will go back to how it was

Brussels is nuked and Belgium gets partitioned in such way that France gets Wallonia and Flanders goes to Netherlands. Belgium isn't even fucking real.