Back to basics

Anyone else feels like they are addicted to the internet and smartphones? I am going back to basic because I am sick of waking up, browsing the internet and suddenly realising it's already time for bed again.
Internet is controlling my life. Constantly checking Youtube, Sup Forums, Facebook. A question pops up in my mind so I google it. Looking for more questions. Eating and taking a shit. Browsing. Useless information that doesn't improve me as a person and just makes me degenerate.


What do you to get your life back?

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I'm on Sup Forums way too much and I don't even like this place that much. It just provides constant stimulation far greater than any other site.

I find myself having to pause TV series halfway through only to check Sup Forums in case I'm missing some cool threads. It's fucking retarded when I think about it but I'm unable to stop.

I've quite weed, alcohol, porn and masturbation but I can't quit Sup Forums

lol most normal people use it for calling and texting, if you're addicted to doing other shit with it that's on you

same boat OP

I enjoy things that take me off the internet but it seems like no matter what I HAVE to have a couple hours of 'me internet time' every night or I get anxious etc.

I don't want to spend the entire day just browsing the internet but...I wish I could still do it for 5+ hours a day. I'm addicted to the constant stimulation it provides

I also have ADHD which doesn't help

Why do people even have smartphones if all they do is call and text each other. Why do Americans still use text messages anyway

we have the sames. Sup Forums is ruining my law school studies REEEEEE

The ultimate solution is fairly simple. Quite your internet and television subscription and sell your smartphone. "lol" you probably think. "why should I do that? I will have nothing else to do". And that is the EXACT REASON WHY you should quit. Do you want to look back on your life as the only thing you did was watch television or do you really want to get something out of your life.

because an iphone will always be better than some shitty plastic phone

and texting is much quicker than calling

5 hours a day is 1/3 of your day user. If you have a job that means your day is working and browsing internet. Nothing else.

I'm just surprised Americans don't use some messaging application like the rest of the world. Like Whatsapp or something. They're way more convenient. And I don't understand why you'd need an iPhone to send text messages. If that's all people do with their phones does it really matter what phone is 'better'

I feel the same.

I think I need to just get off for a time.

Why use an app that only some people have? that's retarded.

Everyone with a phone has texting, probably only 5% of people own an app for messaging

Indeed. On an intuitive level I have already realized that, but it's such a big decision that I just keep procrastinating it.

>Do you want to look back on your life as the only thing you did was watch television or do you really want to get something out of your life.

It's too easy to rationalize this kind of concerns and think "well I don't care about living that much anyways everything is ultimately meaningless".


Life is cruel and hard in a first world utopia.

I know

In my ideal world, I would work only few hours a day, go home at 1-2, browse the internet and play vidya til around 5-6, do something with gf for a couple hours, come home at 8-9 and browse internet and watch TV til sleep

Like I said...my internet usage is an addiction of sorts

I enjoy the real world, outside experiences, being social, but something always draws me to browsing the internet. It gives me this warm blissful peaceful 'at home' feeling to be on the computer and looking up random shit

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smartphones are the ultimate meme

It's not "ALL" that they do. Just mostly what they do. They like having the added functionality of a smartphone when they need it.

If everyone used it everyone would have it. Almost everyone uses it here

To cut SMS costs. Everyone has whatsapp here.

I think that living without television, internet and smartphone will force you to do things you exercise, reading and other social behavior. It will also save you tons of money because you will not pay the thousands of dollars/euros on subscriptions a year. You won't have to buy new electronics every now and then AND you will BARELY see any advertisement which will result in you purchasing far less because you don't need all that crap anyway.

And for those that still study, it will improve your studies since you won't skip class that much because you prefered to bingewatch Netflix or TedX or whatever crap you follow that doesn't even matter anyway.

Everyone uses texting, and everyone has texting

using an app is fucking retarded, there's literally no benefit to it

You guys dont have unlimited texts?

Well how does the app work? it must use data which is unlimited

learn some self-control, stupid fagit cunt

Go out in the woods and camp for a few days. Bring a gun, fishing rod, medical supplies, etc. Go hunting and fishing. Go hiking. Enjoy nature and the wilderness. If you have a dog, a big dog, bring him. At night time, stare in the sky and watch the stars. I did this for 3 nights, and my whole body felt refreshed. I brought my own food and water, but I also cooked up some fish I caught. Dig holes in the ground and shit in them. Bring toilet paper.

Don't you guys get so stressed out because you always have the urge to check your phone every 5 minutes? The urge to that endorfine rush every time your phone buzzes or that (1) notification on facebook pops up? Fuck I HATE IT. I am addicted and you are too.

Thousands? How expensive are your bills. My internet is like ten euros a month and I use a prepaid plan on my phone, just add some value onto it when I need to. And you shouldn't be seeing any ads if you use an ad blocker

nah, I usually wait till there's a few of them

Thanks for using WhatsApp by jewbook euro fags really helps organize data for five eyes

You tell this to a place where 70% of the browsers are here from morning till dawn.

I dont feel addicted to it, but I dont like looking at my phone even to check the time so much. If anything, I want to get rid of my smartphone because I will feel more like its the late 2000's when I didnt have one. idk why I have this weird fascination with pre-mainstream facebook technology + sociological stances. I dont really check facebook that much, but im sure it would only be good to have no smartphone. But then no snapchat. Youtube [explicitly for music] and occasional snapchat and soundcloud for Benshapiro show are literally all I use my phone.

Its prolly for the best, I hate how everyone has a smartphone and is constantly looking down at it, even I google shit too much its too instantaneous. wat do

and Sup Forums on my phone, ive been spending a little too much time here, literally i cant think of any other websites that dont suck like pol, its constant entertainment

I hate that my smartphone makes it more difficult to 'disconnect' from the rest of the world. I don't want to feel constantly plugged in every time I go anywhere.

Exactly!

There are numerous benefits to it, that's why people use them here. You can create groups for a set of people for instance, which basically functions like an IRC channel. It's useful if you have something like a class of students who will want to keep each other updated about school stuff, or something. Easy to embed and send files etc.

get a job. that helps.

Make your time productive online, and use it to make money. I was just like you, then I started selling on eBay, then playing poker, then forex trading, making websites, doing some seo and marketing.

Nothing wrong with being online if you are being productive, but stop being idle

I don't even realise when people call me, I usually have my phone muted and then when I check it a couple hours later I'll notice someone's tried to call me. I should probably have sound on

Texting has group messaging

there is 0 benefit still to using an app

It lulls them into false sense of security with encryption

I think a real problem with the modern web is that it's far too visual, where even articles are written as if they're a script for a report designed to fit in a few minutes. I was watching an interview with Neil Postman and when he said that no serious person can expect an issue like 'the middle east' (this was during the first gulf war) to fit into a 2 minute news reel, or a few paragraphs of text.

I think we use far too many serious subjects as entertainment these days, and treat our time as far too valueless.

Texting is good for when you just want a quick answer and do't want to be stuck on th phone with some asshole. You can carry on more than one conversation and keep the conversation from going off into bunny tracks.

Flip phone master race

Does that work the same way, or is it like you send a message to a number of people

Yeah, I'm 18 so I've pretty much grown up with this shit, but when I looked at it from an outside perspective, my reliance on technology actually scared the shit out of me, not to mention for the most part it was asinine shit that I was doing online and not productive at all.

A 2 week trip out in the mountains really made me actually appreciate being alive and sort of 'wake up'. Completely dropped YouTube, Games, social networks etc. Dedicated that time to reading and studies instead. Started playing piano too and goddamn it feels so much more real and even nourishing. I was like a zombie before. Now I'm actually living life to enjoy it rather than show-off or get in on the latest fad.

Just gotta drop Sup Forums to healthy levels now, don't think I can ever leave this place. Do it, cut back on this shit.

Yes the internet is complete dog shit.

Full of leftist and cuckservative filth and there's a few sane people like you lot and we all just say the same thing to each other every day but then I have to see a white girl being fucked by a nigger and it's likely our cause could be a complete waste of time and fail anyway.

I don't think humans weren't meant to be this connected or have this level of freedom of speech. As soon as I look at the internet I'm basically inviting a whole heap of people I hate into my home which destroys a lot of it's sanctity.

Most of the leftism completely drops when you go off the internet though. I know leftist art girls who are left when it comes to environment and such but when it comes to immigration they are right as fuck.

it makes a chatroom

it comes with the territory. Internet speed is only getting faster, the quality (larger data sized content) is only increasing, our attention spans are decreasing, faster browsing, smaller content to quickly consume, faster bigger hd porn, everything is going up up up...

honestly i'd be OK and wish we were in a 56k era, it would enforce responsibility and moderation of internet use

exactly, I hate it. I wish no one had smart phones. It makes everyone lame. Look at social media, how young people are consumed by it, always looking at their phone. Like, when I'm out and about at a store or something, everyone is ha their neck down at their phone, I sit there patiently, im like FUCKING LOOK AROUND AND TALK TO SOMEONE STOP STARING AT YOUR FUCKING PHONES YOU ZOMBIES

I've been getting really into usenet and BBS lately, as well as IRC.

MUCH better than the web as it now is as it takes away all the cruft. There's a lot of quite autistic people, but what's great is that it's designed to be read and posted on in a 'dial-up' paradigm so there's no harm is checking once a day then quitting for the rest of it.

Gophernet is super fun as well.

>As soon as I look at the internet I'm basically inviting a whole heap of people I hate into my home which destroys a lot of it's sanctity.
Well said.

when I went to Ecuador, I had no phone service, and it was awesome. The people there are very human and compassionate, and it felt so refreshing to just hang out with people for a week, and literally never look at your phone. America is truly the opposite of this. Yet this non-internet communal/familial lifestyle is what I yearn for

>FUCKING LOOK AROUND AND TALK TO SOMEONE

I don't want people to talk to me when I'm just trying to buy something

If you are on the internet for entertainment, you are wasting your time. Admit it.

Challenge yourself. Don't read news articles, don't browse YouTube or other crap. You will not know what to do with yourself.


Protip for Facebook: UNFOLLOW everyone and everything. You don't care about those people anyway or you would be talking to them.

Yeah that older internet was better. It had a different spirit.

Sup Forums has a lot of talks about bloat,and I agree with them. One thing I've been it compared to is an RPG level scaling system,where each increase in power is made useless because of an increase in requirement.

I once downloaded the entirety of Fidonews, which is something like 15 years of a weekly BBS 'zine and it was just over 40MB of text files that weren't exactly short releases.

IThis may sound weird but is it the same spirit as texting with physical keys instead of touch?

Hey I had that phone

>www.textfiles.com

Have you checked this site?

>a few sane people like you lot

>have ADHD
fucks me up.

Journalism is largely trash these days anyway, so you're not missing anything by just getting the news from the radio in your car and then getting the actual information from the actual source when you get home. Journalists and reporters are always grasping at the "next Watergate" but don't want to spend 2 years pounding the pavement to do it.

I think it was the blurred line between a content creator and a content consumer. I always like to think about Sir Tim and his vision for the web as a "large universe of documents" and wonder if he's disappointed with how it has turned out. IIRC he attacked Zuckerberg once after a "Happy Birthday to the Web" announcement,where Berners-Lee said something like "If you actually cared about the web you wouldn't have made Facebook."

Yeah kind of it had a more underground spirit where people were more concerned with knowledge and interest in how things work than pushing agendas.

I think its because this technological lifestyle is all based around instant/fast/immediate whatever gratification. Everything is made to catch your attention, everything is made to hook you in, it doesn't even matter if its long term since you have so much choice and freedom you will never stay and truly appreciate something. It's just like consumer culture now. Everything can be replaced so quickly that it can be thrown away just as fast as well. Nothing holds any meaningful/deep value. Even more-so you're constantly bombarded with this everywhere you go, because this is the normal way to live-survive. It's all so hollow and fake.

At least that's what I think.

Stfu leaf. Be gayer. Actually no not possible.

Yes. All those ringers, bells, notifications and sort are constant endorfine rushes in your body that get you hooked up.

someone has got the austism

Yes, I love it.Even looks good on a text-based browser, which is how it should be since Sir Tim wanted the web to be "universal access."

That's why HTML had no visual information outside of basic "make this bit bigger." So the information was the basis of a document, not the appearance.

What are alternatives to textfiles? I am a rookie but I love going back in time to information that is scarce in the current.

This is why "fake news" is even a thing, as well as a break down in ethics in the newspapers and reporters.

That no one said "should we check first?" in response to half of what they print shows that 1. they don't need to as long as they get the click and 2. they don't want to as long as they get paid.

yea, unlike normies I notice this and try to distance myself from it. I haven't "watched" TV in years, I hate advertising because its so fake and meant to catch your mind and attention

Agreed, OP. All these forms of communication are totally unnatural and not something we evolved to be able to handle. Everyone living in the first world is suffering from information overload, and it's causing anxiety and depression in a lot of them. Did you know people gauge how well-off they are by comparing themselves to those they know? What do you think happens when people compare themselves against everyone across the world? It's incredibly destructive to your self-esteem.

Problem is, there's no escape. To be a competitive member of society you need to make use of these tools.

Stopped using the internet for a month a while ago cos my iPad broke and don't have a computer. Just watched more tv tbH

What do you do on IRC?
I've used it before for downloads, and the communities it creates fascinate me. How do I get into one?

>Fake news
It's just a new word for 'propaganda'. Even the verb itself is propaganda since it immediatly devaluates the value of an article. It's basically the word 'racism' for news articles. You don't have to prove anything, you just have to say it out loud.

It's like a very basic version of MSN Messenger.

>sane people like you lot

Wrong board

You have to go to the source. BBS, Usenet, Gopher, etc.

The web itself is too far gone. There's a few anachronistic sites around, but they're largely just toys, like what most of Neocities is. I think if we all went to it and made a web ring we could turn it around,but not very easily.

>To be a competitive member of society you need to make use of these tools.

False. Peter Hitchens doesn't even have a car, let alone a smart phone. That's just what they want you to think.

Internet isn't a drug. Have you ever sucked a dick for internet?

You talk. But be careful since they're very insular and VERY autistic. There's a joke on Sup Forums that goes.
>join channel
>say hi
>get banned
>join channel
>lurk
>get banned

I was just making a point that it was their hurry to publish whatever the fuck they want that caused the existence of the term to even come up. A breakdown in ethics on their part is the cause, which was allowed by a medium that rewards clickbait.

>only drugs can be addicting

I'm the last human being on earth who doesn't own a cellphone of any kind, it's like watching aliens or something with how literal 6 year olds cant go 30 seconds without checking their smartphone

Remember that you're on a board that treats society as the main reason for their own failures.

>be careful since they're very insular and VERY autistic
That's what I'm worried about. How do you get past this?

>Did you know people gauge how well-off they are by comparing themselves to those they know? What do you think happens when people compare themselves against everyone across the world?

I saw a video on FB yesterday of a friend of mine improving on guitar, and he was better than me. Made me a little pissed of that he gets that attention. Wanting to be noticed online and comparing yourself to others online is cancer

I never wanted to change from my old ass phone that I payed 15 for service.

Just got to find the right channels.

It really is more luck than judgement.

But I prefer Usenet as a discussion platform. It's more suited to long-form writing.

Eventually I'll drop my smartphone and get a featurephone. What I want to know is why hasn't anyone figured out how to mod the software of any of the newish Nokia feature phones.

Did you know (the new) nokia will bring out a new feature phone soon?

>Nokia 150

How does one get unto those things? Just curious.

Yea, but it's not really Nokia. When did they start making phones in Asia? Is this a new thing or has it been that way for a while and I just haven't realized?

Ecuador. Great example of happy, traditional, poor people who seem completely satisfied.

>Stay off Sup Forums
>Mass shooting! 10 Dead! Shooters identity unclear yet

Fuck

Abd what's the solution?

That's exactly it. It's a problem made incredibly bad by the internet. First you can't escape how well-off the people you know may be, but you ALSO end up comparing yourself against people you don't even know.

Snapchat is so gay. Once you delete it for a month and text people only, you actually feel like an adult citizen and not "muh bambi filter muh score" nu male cuck.

only worthwhile if you live in the third world

what's a good dumbphone pol?

I really like the aesthetic of the Nokia in OP. I've been wanting to get a dumbphone for a while.

If you cut of yourself from all those things you will start running on the walls because you don't know what to do with yourself which eventually will make yourself so bored you will start to do productive things. Your mind can only be so bored until it finds things to do.

Literally anything but the internet.

I am considering buying a Nokia 230. High battery life, enough space for contacts, decent camera, ... It has the option for Facebook but I imagine it will be so crap I won't even bother.

I have pic related.

Texting is a pain in the ass because you can only have 300 messages, so you have to delete them manually.

But it's only $25 a month unlimited, so it's worth it.