We've given you several definitions of what communism is and specifically showed you why any of the countries that have been labled communist do not match the criteria. Also you can't really in any way say that capitalism has worked at all and fascism has failed every time it sprang up
>Leftists want brown people to take over the world!
If you read a book you'd know leftism is focused primarily around the liberation of the working class. Most working class people just happen to be minorities
>Liberals/SJWs are communists!
lol no. Liberals and SJWs are neoliberal capitalists
Don't use any of these non arguments when debating with us ever again.
James Carter
>hahaha you will never defeat my arbitrary definition of communism that purposely excludes all failed communist experiments
Levi Davis
good to see other comrades on here
Dominic Johnson
you fucking faggots dont realize communism only works post scarcity nor do you take into consideration that therre will always be that one guy who moves to a different part of the universe with his self replicating robot army just to piss you faggot commies off
Nicholas Ramirez
>bankers = socialists
Are you fucking retarded?
Alexander Morris
Kill yourself Estonia
Landon Torres
We already have the technology for a post-scarcity world:
So that isn't an argument.
Communism is still retarded of course.
Zachary Price
youre all kike puppets and you reek of wizardchan
Oliver Campbell
Most working class people just happen to be minorities
OP confirmed for unintelligent
Luis Cooper
>posts wrong toothbrush .gif kys faggot nigger you give us a bad name
Cooper Morris
Forgot the >
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Alexander Lee
speak for yourself abo scum
Ian Garcia
I have never seen a leftist argument on Sup Forums they just shitpost memes
Austin Wood
Hi comrades.
Caleb Harris
I'll ask you, how has the "HOOMAN NATUR" argument been debunked? It's the only problem with Communism, so far as I see it. Or is my definition of Communism too narrow?
Isaac Sullivan
I will never have any respect for communism till they accept it has been tried and failed and they actually fix why it failed.
Julian Jenkins
is lefty Sup Forums pro or against the unification of religion and government?
Christopher Martin
>Religion Opiate of the masses.
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Blake Ortiz
They tried to establish socialism but instead just had the state control everything the solution is to NOT do that.
Kevin Taylor
The difference is that no capitalist thinks capitalism is a perfect system, so yes there are flaws. And furthermore that a perfect system is impossible to achieve once the human element is introduced.
Perhaps once we enter the age of automation, we can steer more towards a socialist/communist/more Star Trek like lifestyle. But until then, or until someone comes up with something better, capitalism is still the better system - in that it allows more freedom to the individual.
Ryan Johnson
Libertarian left with free market, mixed economy is the best option. But leave it to Sup Forums to have a political opinion that isn't extremist, you fucks are too binary, it is possible to have a middle ground. Communism has good ideals but ultimately fails when it is based upon planned economy and authoritarianism.
Hudson Foster
>human element >more freedom
Brandon James
>arbitrary definition of communism
Listen you ignorant fuck, there's only ONE definition of communism; THE ONE THE GREAT KARL MARX SAID IT WAS!
When did all the countries disolve themselves into a perfect utopy with no borders and currency?
NEVER
SO, ITS PRETTY FAIR TO SAY COMMUNISM NEVER HAPPENED.
Connor Russell
No encaustic it competes with them for irrational people
Evan Jackson
capitalism has never been tried user, there were always state capitalism
Jayden Wood
Yes, humans crave individuality and when stifled, systems fail. When encouraged, systems flow.
Wyatt Lewis
Why are socialists so worthless and retarded? Communism is based on 'social science', but since they disown all the results of socialism in action it means they reject the basic tenets of the scientific method.
It's really just repeating the bleating of sheltered 19th century academics that were made obsolete over a century ago.
Juan Murphy
And every attempt getting to it [Socailism] failed
Levi Perez
> Socialism has never been successfully implemented
sounds like quite a feasible political philosophy you got there Brandon
Asher Ortiz
"Humanity" is an abstract concept and doesn't exist. There is only the individual and he can act against "human nature"
Henry Wood
Full capitalism has not been practiced on any significant scale, yes. Unfortunately we have things like minimum wage and welfare that are destroying the middle class, aka the working class, aka the consumer class. But to me the answer seems obvious.
Adam Perez
this is the number 2 best response to commies the number 1 is " what is the productive infrastructure of more humans?"
Jason Edwards
who cares about the definitions of that fat jew NEET? when we see communist destroying nations its the fault of your stupid ideology now go back to /leftypol/ scum
Blake Price
Worker ownership of the means of production.
Angel Davis
Take your facts to other place. This is leftypol, BASTARD!!!!!!!
Jace Collins
No. That's simply not true. China was a shithole until it became a socialist state. Now they are the 1st world economic power!
Cuba: Another shithole. Then, the revolution came and they erradicated malnutrition and iliteracy.
And I can go on. Bolivia, Vietnam, USSR, etc
Joshua Morgan
Which is....his nature. Unpredictability. Which is why more freedom is better. It's more conducive for the randomness of the human being.
Jason Scott
How the fuck is that a adequate response
Aiden Robinson
>implying we think that the end result is your utopia >implying we aren't saying that your utopia will never be reached and all experiments lead to authoritarian hellholes.
James Wright
China's economy was shit until they started employing capitalist strategies with their economy. Now boom. There's a reason for this.
Xavier Martin
Human nature is a huge generalization because it implies all humans act a certain way. This is false. >freedom Freedom to do what? Freedom from what?
Hunter Flores
I don't get it. Why does some word salad tossing failure think it can speak for the working class? Why would anyone in the working class want some academia shutin to speak for them. You are disgusting and laughable to working class, you despise the working class for it, and in the unfortunate event that you ever get in the power, the working class suffers always the most under your stupidity.
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Hudson Hall
All dictatorships and "not Real CommunsimTM"
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Carson Watson
China was a worse shithole after it became a socialist state and only recovered when the Politburo out of desperation let Deng Xiaoping jettison Marxist "science" into the trash.
Jacob Brown
Communism works by definition. Therefore, is a system fails, it is not communism.
Jack Hill
It only seems like a generalization because human beings are so fucking complicated. What motivates douche A to do something may not motivate douche B. Somethings can be predicted, but not to a 100% certainty - that is the nature of humans. Its not as concise as someone saying its in a dogs nature to sniff other dog butts, but it's still something that can be defined.
Bentley Hall
Okay based on that there's a bigger question that needs asking: how would the transfer of a society from operating as a Capitalistic one to a Communistic one take place?
Ryder Rivera
Anyways, I think /leftypol/ has been returned to its weeb dumpster for now. Until next time!
Cameron White
>THE ONE THE GREAT KARL MARX SAID IT WAS
Did he said it before he took the pocket money from Engels or after he again refused to pay for the groceries?
Noah Allen
Hey leftypol cucks. My offer to help you pack your things and move to North Korea still stands.
Brandon Powell
reminder to sage when replying to raid threads
Henry Mitchell
Here's my argument: >We won the election, and you lost. You are a faggot with no control of the executive, legislative, or judicial branches of government.
Nicholas Campbell
Just a change in economic system through revolution.
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Samuel Cruz
1. Leftypol didn't support Hillary. Half didn't vote and the other half voted for trump because of accelerationism
2. I'm glad you guys control all three branches. The last time it happened there was a financial catastrophe and it took leftists getting control of the country back to fix it
Robert Garcia
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Owen Mitchell
>Why are socialists so worthless and retarded?
Because it is exactly like todays postmodernist fucks in the universities - they first made up a conclusion and then looked for the clues that would make it more plausible. I mean look at that fuck Marx - first he wrote Communist manifesto and then the Capital, never worked and never set his foot inside the factory.
Eli Young
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James Stewart
Sad to see that even the left side of Sup Forums is pro authoritarian bootlicker cucks, you guys hate freedom as much as muslims.
Tyler Hernandez
The best nigger is
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Lucas Diaz
reminder to not only sage raid threads, but to not participate in meaningful discussion with them
their goal is not to argue, their raid plans are to exclusively establish themselves as an accepted presence
you can do your part by not bumping slide threads and raising awareness of their raid tactics (presuming there are enough newfags around that don't know what leftpol is)
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Noah Young
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Chase Morales
ok this one is funny
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Thomas White
>Leftypol thread Sage >Sage Sage >Sage Sage
Henry Cruz
I'm willing to wager 80% of /leftypol/ is in high school
Kevin Scott
i'm out of memes
lefty/pol/ mod was literally 18, he couldn't even hold down a job that he does for free
Ian Foster
I;d say 60% pretentious college students studying a worthless major, rest in HS
Alexander Anderson
>worthless major
>worth is designated by porky
Nice ghost story
Ryan Garcia
>what is the gilded age
Of course, when taken to its logical conclusion capitalism results in the ruling class getting in bed with the government to continue policies that favor their own interests.
Alexander Collins
I'm willing to wager that it's actually stormcucks starting these threads to discredit anyone that doesn't comply to their echo chamber of shitposting and low brow ideology. Not all lefties are filthy commies.
Blake Gray
Can any /leftypol/ posters confirm or deny that reading Marx to understand today's economic system is like reading a Dungeon and Dragons manual to understand real hand to hand combat?
Jackson Peterson
All concepts defacto exist, therefore you are wrong.
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Cooper Ward
>needing to spend thousands of dollars to learn about metaphysics and Stirner, only to get a job teaching people about metaphysics at a lower institution than your own
Justin Cook
>graduate from gender studies PhD >write my thesis on the social contexts of the white cis males response of disgust at the sight of my neopenis >get inflated sense of self worth from worthless piece of paper handed to you by a representative of a system that robs tax payer dollars through the student loan system in exchange for a subpar education, charging thousands for wonderful subjects with rigorous assessment such as writing 500 words of spiderman fanfiction >get out into the real world, realize I'm barely qualified to operate a vacuum cleaner >obviously we need to redistribute my would-be employer's wealth into my pockets to solve this issue (not actually employed btw, employment is a capitalist construction to oppress the worker, not that I've met any workers in my university anime club or furry orgies)
Cameron Sanders
kekerino
Ian Ortiz
>trading is a social construct Wew lad, really showed those monopoly men who's best
>mean while native Americans will gladly trade furs for guns >different cultures(Japan and Europeans) will trade food for knowledge and weapons >People will trade some of there food for protection
Do you even have an argument for this? People will trade for things because it's better than just stealing it most of the time. You have to be retarded to think humans don't think alike and realize the benefits of trading some times out way the benefits of pillaging
Julian Lewis
>gender studies is the only insult rightists spew out about worthless majors.
My majors pretty worthless, it's political science. I never see any memes about that.
Ethan Gutierrez
kill yourself you fucking degenerate
Nolan Robinson
Actually psychology is the most worthless major, but yes your major is worthless.
Caleb Jones
>We've given you several definitions of what communism is and specifically showed you why any of the countries that have been labled communist do not match the criteria. Also you can't really in any way say that capitalism has worked at all and fascism has failed every time it sprang up AHAHAHAHHAHAHAH HE THINKS IT ACTUALLY WORKS NECK YOURSELF MATE
