/Fsg/ Fascism General

/Fsg/ - Fascist General

Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism, and other forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. Also for sharing fascist literature and information.

A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested


conservapedia.com/Fascist_Manifesto,_1919

worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm

reakt.org/fiume/charter_of_carnaro.html


uploadmb.com/dw.php?id=1389982155

Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"


Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction

Oswald Mosely
Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera
Benito Mussolini
Adolf Hitler
Stepan Bandera
Corneliu Zelea Codreanu
Salazar
Ramiro Ledesma Ramos
Ettore Ovazza
Gaetano Mosca
Friedrich Nietzsche
Charles Maurras
Enrico Corradini
Filippo Tommaso Marinetti
Johann Plenge
Alceste De Ambris
Gabriele d'Annunzio
Juan Perón
Giovanni Gentile
Julius Evola

Types of Fascism

Italian
Falangism
National-Syndicalism
British Union
National-Socialism
Strasserism
Meme futurism
Clerical Fascism
Brazilian Integralism
Peronism

"[Fascism] was an explosion against intolerable conditions, against remediable wrongs which the old world failed to remedy. It was a movement to secure national renaissance by people who felt themselves threatened with decline into decadence and death and were determined to live, and live greatly."~Oswald Mosely

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=FaCHBmGWcBc&t=14s&list=PLWzhmi7RcmB0pLqT7a98CfFIXZUArdTAt&index=58
youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s
youtu.be/MFE0qAiofMQ?t=38
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism
youtube.com/watch?v=j6p1zxKnDeM
youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg
youtu.be/HNhF28fzN9I?t=219
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

>philosophic conception
Fascism is thought and action. It is action with an inherent doctrine which, arising out of a given system of historic forces, is inserted in it and works on it from within. It has therefore a form co-related to the contingencies of time and place; but it has at the same time an ideal content which elevates it into a formula of truth in the higher region of the history of thought.

>spiritual conception
To Fascism the world is not this material world which appears on the surface, in which man is an individual separated from all other men, standing by himself and subject to a natural law which instinctively impels him to lead a life of momentary and egoistic pleasure. In Fascism man is an individual who is the nation and the country. He is this by a moral law which embraces and binds together individuals and generations in an established tradition and mission, a moral law which suppresses the instinct to lead a life confined to a brief cycle of pleasure in order, instead, to replace it within the orbit of duty in a superior conception of life, free from the limits of time and space a life in which the individual by self-abnegation and by the sacrifice of his particular interests, even by death, realises the entirely spiritual existence in which his value as a man consists.

>ethical conception
This positive conception of life is evidently an ethical conception. And it comprises the whole reality as well as the human activity which domineers it. No action is to be removed from the moral sense; nothing is to be in the world that is divested of the importance which belongs to it in respect of moral aims. Life, therefore, as the Fascist conceives it, is serious, austere, religious; entirely balanced in a world sustained by the moral and responsible forces of the spirit. The Fascist disdains the "easy" life.

>religious conception
Fascism is a religious conception in which man is considered to be in the powerful grip of a superior law, with an objective will which transcends the particular individual and elevates him into a fully conscious member of a spiritual society. Anyone who has stopped short at the mere consideration of opportunism in the religious policy of the Fascist Regime, has failed to understand that Fascism, besides being a system of government, is also a system of thought.

Anyone with questions, feel free to ask them.

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I've always like that pic. We should come up with our own version of this infograph.

Maybe have it say something like:
>Under fascism, the means of production are controlled by the nation
>Under fascism, technology is used to empower the people and nation. Citizens still go to work, but the amount of work they are capable of getting done is vastly improved with new technology.
>Under fascism, the working day is optimized to be as natural to the human psyche as possible. Laziness and lack of purpose is avoided through a fair amount of work, but excessive amounts of work is done away with, allowing time for other activities exercising, child-raising, religious activities, and becoming mentally and culturally enriched.
>Under fascism workers are paid according to what is most beneficial to the nation as a whole. Since increased wages stop increasing happiness past a certain point, that money can instead be spent improving the nation for the benefit of the people.
>Under fascism, the government has the role of improving the nation, with different solutions appropriate to the unique situation of the nation. No two governments will look the same, because no two cultures and nations are the same.
>Fascism- Economic system in which the means of production is owned privately by individuals, but subject to the needs of the state through regulation and oversight.

If I knew how that infograph was made I'd do it myself.

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In order to defeat the cultural marxists we must spread cultural fascism. We will make hard work, acountability and pride in the superiority of western and American culture become appealing to the masses.

half poo in loo with a white gf here.

I am increasingly interesting in the economic and social implications of fascism and its organization of capital and business within its framework, as well as the exaltation of traditional mythological archetypes of man, honor, and bravery. However, I also have the desire of self-preservation of myself within the west as a westernized and assimilated American citizen.

Is your personal views on fascism like that of Mussolini, the Brazillian, and Strasserite movements? or that of Hitler's race mythologies?

I can see the west in which I was raised decay around me, and can see how mass immigration from the 3rd world will subvert European heritage and culture and ultimately destroy the things which created the prosperity and culture that people so desire.

It is a strange position to be in desu.

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Is it just me, or has fascism had some of the most stable dictatorship in history. I mean, sure, they were all gone eventually, but those were always from outside sources, internally fascism has always been known for good stability with a decent economy.

My personal view of fascism is a bit of mix, for the most part I side with Mussolini. However, I do believe moderate racial policies should be invoked as well as strict anti semetic laws.

Yep, every country that was went fascist was successful, Spain unfortunately had no time to react after Francos death, socialists immediately took power. And the others, war was the cause. Which isnt a valid argument for "it doesn't work"

Salazar wasn't a big fascist, the title to the Portuguese fascist would probably go to Francisco Rolão Preto

The closest examples that you can look at are the pseudofascist dictatorships of Franco and Salazar, both lasted around three decades.

Didn't all of Spain's economic issues basically come from Franco disregarding the Falange's advice?

He wasn't a fascist indeed, however his state was very similar to a fascist state, and believed in many of the same fascist ideals. Which is why he's on the list

Mostly, and even at that Spains economy was relatively stable under Franco. Now Spain is a shell of its former self, 27% unemployment rate and increasing.

Pic related.

Meh, I don't think we can really get too specific here, otherwise fascism (which is supposed to adapt to the country that adopts it) becomes a useless term.

The question we have to ask ourselves is, are we using the word "fascism" as a specific historical event that happened, or a worldview and ideology that exists to this day. Normies tend to prefer the former, but I think we use the latter.

>Successful

I wouldn't call getting stomped by the allies successful.

I mean other than through outside intervention.
We didn't just fall apart from internal rebellions and coups like other dictatorships.

nobody cares what you have to say namefag. this is an anonymous board.
Go back to plebbit where you belong.

nobody cares what you have to say namefag. this is an anonymous board.
Go back to plebbit where you belong.

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desu

I'm not sure about you, but I don't consider a nation successful unless it can properly defend it's borders and citizens.

>stomped

Yeah, it basically took the entire world to stop a couple countries. Thats irrelevant anyways, Fascist Italy prospered for 20 years before the war, Nazi Germany pulled out of its depression, enjoyed 6 years of economic and social prosperity. Anyways, we live in a great world now don't we? I guess it'll be nice watching the utter collapse of society.

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>Leaf

Well they put up a good fight considering they were at war with pretty much the entire world, and the fascist nations that didn't go to war did just fine.

nobody cares what you have to say namefag. this is an anonymous board.
Go back to plebbit where you belong.

why isnt Georfe Licoln Rockwell on the list?

>leaf

Franco's probably the ideal fascist leader, if we're going to pick the shining example of fascist success it's definitely him. Isolationist, improving economy, stability, and killed mostly commies. A third or so of the Spanish population still likes him, which is pretty good for 40 years of indoctrination against his legacy.

Only 20 and 6 years? The oldest republic is like 1700 years old. Not very long in comparison

I think its quite the opposite here

no not really, if u wanna name fag just go back

>world war 2
Even besides that, Spain who remained largely neutral throughout the war lasted until 1975, until Francos death. Then the socialists took power, and now the country is a shithole. Pic related here

Slipped my mind, adding now.

Isn't fascism inherently self-defeating? I mean, you aren't going to convince the 30% of the population you need to slaughter that they deserve to die. They're going to resist violently, especially in America. I know I would.

and whos that 30%? mexicans? we wont slaughter them, we are just going to throw them the fuck out

>you aren't going to convince the 30% of the population you need to slaughter
Hang on now, who said anything about slaughtering anybody? Except commies of course, but aside from them who would we kill?

All "LGBT" types and anyone who cares about them, blacks, all people who believe in the Constitution and are willing to defend it with arms. You're probably facing down at least 40, maybe 50 percent of the American population. I'm just wondering which country this would even work in? Japan?

Indeed, which is a key principle in fascism. There can not be peace without violence, liberals, communists, socialists, all of course will resist. These people are soulless, they don't care for the people, their countries. They believe in sick demoralizing ideologies, they deserve no mercy. A 70-30 odds would seem quite promising.

This fucking image gets me every time. My family will sing the praises of living under francista spain in comparison to today. Things were strict but it was safe.

Madrid is depressing and entering the subway feels like a Moroccan bazaar with a dash of sub saharan and fucking chinese everywhere.

you seriously misunderstand us.

youtube.com/watch?v=FaCHBmGWcBc&t=14s&list=PLWzhmi7RcmB0pLqT7a98CfFIXZUArdTAt&index=58
watch that and learn

>I mean, you aren't going to convince the 30% of the population you need to slaughter that they deserve to die
Why do you think this is a inherent part of fascism?

>All "LGBT" types
Don't want to kill them, just want them to keep their degeneracy to themselves and not flaunt it in marriages and pride parades
>blacks
They'll need a lot of indoctrination, but they can stay and fight for their country like the rest of us
>all people who believe in the Constitution and are willing to defend it with arms
I'd really much rather not fight those people if at all possible, so I'll make as many concessions as I can to get along with them

I would probably remove the word "enriched", that word has been ruined.

Try "fulfilled"

Depressing to hear user, I pray we can see the resurrection. We all need it

Sounds good, thanks. I can probably whip up a low quality version, but if I knew how it was made or if someone else made a similar version it would be great for using on commies who keep using that same infograph over and over.

Thank you for the link. You're right. I had no idea what I was arguing. I honestly found myself agreeing with Rockwell. I'm jumping to conclusions, probably because I've been indoctrinated by marxists and I'm a fag. I'm going to find more stuff from Rockwell. Is he still alive?

Nope, he was murdered by a former member of his own party unfortunately, and now the American national socialist movement is neo nazi skinhead trash.

Nah, he died way back in 1967. It's okay though, you've been redpilled, welcome to the family.

Anyone here about trs? the deathpanel got doxxed.

>free will exists
Stopped reading there

I've been hearing tons of things but ive yet to really look into it.

Free will is an illusion

True.

The universe is deterministic.

Indeed, as it says in the picture it appeals to our negative sides of human nature, greed, selfishness. And now we have this apply to the amount of degenarcies being normalized today, one becomes accepted, and then they want another, and another.

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How exactly are you as an individual "fighting" against the "degeneracy" of today?
For starters:

Are you straight edge?
Do you have a wife and kids?
Do you own your own house?
Are your children (if you have any) educated at home?
etc

>straight edge
Yes
>wife
gf of 2 years
>own house
Working towards it, attend school and work.
>children
not yet, but I haven't made the decision wether I will homeschool them or not, I don't want them to have social troubles. But then again if I try teaching them my ideals and they accept, they'd most likely have social troubles anyways with other kids at school.

Check this out newfriend, at the very least the first half of the first video:

Adolf Hitler's Warning
youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s

Jewess admitting that Jews are behind the push for multiculturalism in Europe:
youtu.be/MFE0qAiofMQ?t=38

Churchill's essay on Jewry:
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism
>With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures [of Bolshevism] are Jews.
And now we know that Lenin was a Jew too, kek.

Putin saying the """Russian""" Bolsheviks (biggest mass murderers in history) were Jews:
youtube.com/watch?v=j6p1zxKnDeM

Adolf Hitler - "You Said I Was A Dreamer"
youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg

"Sir Oswald, do you now with the hindsight and knowledge of history, blame the Jews or Hitler for the second for war?"

"I blame both"
youtu.be/HNhF28fzN9I?t=219

The Soviet invasion of Poland was a Soviet military operation that started without a formal declaration of war on 17 September 1939. On that morning, 16 days after Nazi Germany invaded Poland from the west, the Soviet Union invaded Poland from the east.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland

We all know that Jews (the Bolsheviks) created the Soviet Union and attacked Poland only 16 days after Germany.

We know that Churchill, despite not being Prime Minister until 8 months later, agitated and provoked for war against Germany, and that his advisers were Jews (Bernard M. Baruch, Chaim Weizmann, Robert Waley-Cohen, Henry Strakosch).

We know that Roosevelt's brain trust was composed by Jews (Bernard M. Baruch(!), Dembitz Brandeis, Felix Frankfurter, Henry Morgenthau).

We also know that their guarantee of Poland was bullshit because they couldn't and didn't save Poland.

Was Poland used just as a pawn to start a world war? Why? Money.

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get this printed out as one of those "coexist" stickers.

Is there a more or less unbiassed book about Mussolini's Italy? Preferably from that time period.

Looking at this makes me wonder -

Does anyone have any good esoteric Nazi occultism pics on hand?

>pic related

It's funny how the "failed" artist Hitler ended up designing the most recognizable flag in history.

inb4
>hindu and other use of the symbol
Turning it 45 degrees and the white circle with red around it makes all the difference.

i think any thread with that specific subject is a shill thread atm, too many people saying a lot of loud things without having the proper knowledge

I have not found one unfortunately

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Indeed, I haven't really been paying attention to it as it seems everyone has their own story. Could just be me though

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What is /FSG/'s opinion on Dollfuss?

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I'm trying to get into British Fascism as I plan on moving to England soon. It seems like Mosley was a mussoliniboo. Is this accurate?

Not really, mosleys version of fascism differed a bit, of course he admired Mussolini, as all up and coming fascist leaders did. But he styled his differently, as fascism is supposed to be used. Adapt and styled for each countries use.

Correct me if I'm wrong

He was a bit of a mussoliniboo when he was reciving funds from Italy but then when Italy stopped and Germany stepped and even allowed him the use of a radio tower, his party become more "Nazi" as was expected for the funds. Although he did still self fund and collect donations. But it's still very wrong to assume he carbon copied policies of Italy and Germany "betrayed" himself.

I've read quite a few books about his life and the British right wing

I had never really looked into him before, from doing a quick read I feel he should've maintained his independence but should've allied himself with Germany, or presented himself as available for it at the very least. Seems he had a good thing going though, shame it couldn't have been resolved more peacefully.

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My 2 cents on the 'steps forward' for how international 'Fascists' can unite:

1. Understand that Fascism is not a political system or philosophy, it is not relevant outside of Italy despite the contexts of which the term has been adopted (both positively and negatively)

2. Understand that Corporatism is the Political and Economic system we advocate. In 'Fascism', ALL power is the same, we can unite and mobilise as CORPORATISTS

3. Italian Corporatists are inspired by Fascism, British Corporatists are inspired by Unionism, Spanish Corporatists are inspired by Falangism etc. In order to maintain NATIONAL INTEGRITY, it is important for each nation to have its own religious essentialism.

4. Propagate a 21st Century CORPORATIST movement, which will help us combat modern anti-fascists in addition to 'dispelling' the stigma of being intolerant to diverse views.

Daym shame 2bh.
At least I have the Russian emigree authors from that era on this topic.

So you mean that "fascism" is just the Italian variant of the model "corporatism"?

sure because starvation is wonderful.

This actually a great idea on how we can form today, calling ourselves a corporatist movement. All this time I had been thinking how we would come about forming without backlash when its been right in front of my eyes. We could pass ourselves as corporatists, its the perfect plan.

well that only happens in communist or socialist states soo

Too many people will think we're talking about corporatocracy. Besides, corporatism is just the economic aspect of fascism, usually there's some authoritarianism and nationalism involved too.

I do agree that a name change is in order though.

Yeah, fascist states aren't really known for having a starving population. Even in the midst of total war they did a fair job at keeping the population fed.

Berniebots would never get onboard.

Totalitarianism cannot be justified.

Not that they would to begin with of course, but a lot of people won't sign on to a movement that they think is for the corporations' best interests (the name implies that at first glance).

I think nationalism and populism are good terms to go by for now.

True but, it'll be easier to pass to the general public, we'd at least have a chance than if we openly called ourselves fascist. We'd get shut down by everything, called neo nazis, everything. Gaining support from general people would become extremely hard.