Discussion topic:

Is there a bigger difference between the authoritative right vs libertarian right, or libertarian right vs libertarian left?

tfw your daughter becomes a coalburner but you don't care

because you're not resonsible of her

because you sold your semen to a fertility company
thanks capitalism

That means you're going to have a half nigger descendant walking around muddling your bloodline. Unbeknownst to you or not, that sounds horrible

>mfw coal burner in the family

it's not your heritage if it doesn't keep your values

if your son turns socialist you throw him out of an helicopter at the border of anacapistan anyway

Maume

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Yeah but knowing some nonwhite scum has my blood coursing through his veins. I shudder at the thought

The fuck?

fak u op

Considering a lot of people here consider Hoppe to be a true libertarian, I'd say the gap is wider between libertarian left and libertarian right.

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kill youself

Enjoy your daughter getting blacked.

Checked and rekt

the latter

also kys

fgt

pls no

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look up the page and read the bio

absolute trash

"Libertarian left" is just a meme

No leftist wants liberty

(you)

nice one stole the image from another thread

THIS VIOLATES THE NAP

That nigger is 11:59 dark. Gross.

this isn't b

Fuck you lol

kys

A true libertarian leftist is someone who wants to see "equality" and acceptance of degeneracy, but is unwilling to do anything to bring about this unnatural outcome (because it inherently requires authoritarian means that range from indoctrination to systematic ostracism). So in a libertarian society, these people would be seen as harmless clowns. Authoritarian right and libertarian right can never get along, though.

Right libertarianism can't exist and work without a virtuous and moral society, hence at some point you need to go authoritarian

Basically the same is true for libertarian leftists, you need to have some control of behavior or it doesn't work.

I wont ever have daughter, nigger

Hoppe is an über libertarian no matter how much you like/dislike the ideology.
The problem of these classifications si that people confuse actual moral/legal categories (like property, rule of law, individualism, action, non intervention, ...) and psychological impressions/attitudes (tolerance, complacence, ...).
I'm borderline ancap but I'll be only slightly on the libertarian side of the meme chart just because I like discipline, don't like islam and usually dislike flavor-of-the-month degeneracy.

kys, saged, OP is a faggot, etc

It's a rule violation to announce you saved a thread.

Who's the bigger faggot: you or op?

Nig-gerians

>Authoritarian right and libertarian right can never get along, though.
In the grand scheme of things perhaps.
But in the meantime we have to remove commies together.

That's my baby girl you bastard

>I like discipline, don't like islam and usually dislike flavor-of-the-month degeneracy
That's what makes you an authoritarian. But, no, you autistically make the private property of everything the central tenet of your views, whilst completely ignoring the issue of proportionality with regards to the ubiquitousness of externalities too small to negotiate but large enough to have a significant negative impact.

Stop pretending you're in a battle of "feels vs reason". You aren't.

"Externalities" are negotiable unless they are physically too hard to ascertain, like sometimes the purity of water, air and other fluids, in which case you can put some legal restrictions. In this case, if we had a way of surely measuring who is polluting what, then the thing would be directly negotiable between parties.
>Stop pretending you're in a battle of "feels vs reason". You aren't.
I am. There is nothing authoritarian in choosing the people you associate to, the people you enter agreement with, the associations you belong to, etc. Which is all that I was pointing ou previously.
Also discipline has very little to do with authority.

>That's what makes you an authoritarian.
That doesn't make him an authoritarian. That just makes him have a personal opinion that you don't like, unless he tries to enforce it on you.

Wow op I hope you get banned you nigger

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I think this is just the ploy of saying that you exert """power""" over people by choosing between them.
As I said, to the moral/legal notion of non-intervention, you substitute a notion of bargaining/choice leeway. The one that has leeway is okay while the one that has less leeway is "oppressed".

>libertarian left
totally against force and 100% for freedom but fucking give me your money dude

wew

Definitely less difference between fashy goyim and us than between ancoms and us.
The fashies are getting a chopper too, if they start shit after the Day of the McNuke.

Libertarian left vs libertarian left would be more drastic because of sjw.

(you)

I kinda see where he's coming from. You definitely can "exert power" over individuals passively when a lack of cooperation from your side results in negative consequences for them that don't stem from your actions, but where your lack of cooperation is a link in the causal chain that makes them possible. However, I seriously doubt he's willing to accept as a principle that you have moral responsibility over every outcome that was made possible by your action/inaction.

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I dont mind

Elevating that as a principle of action is laughable.
In such a case, you are a criminal for ever taking a vacation because you are withdrawing your work that could have helped somebody.
Every act has a direction and will have "externalities" that are bad for some people. Spending your money on quality housing means that you are withdrawing it from buying, say, quality food. And vice versa.

You could argue for a law obliging people to give help in obvious situations of need that can be relieved in a matter of minutes with no danger and use actual power against such "non_assistance". But even these cases present many difficulties in practice.

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I agree with you, of course, but these people aren't exactly known for having consistent principles to judge things by. They'll say that sometimes this argument applies and sometimes it doesn't, depending on their subjective feelings that will vary on a case by case basis, and pretend that this is a symptom of their complex and refined worldview.