/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - LET THEM SLAY EDITION

This thread is for Discussion of Libertarianism, Capitalism, AnarchoCapitalism, and Intergalactic Genocide.

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>Bump for Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of violence againt communists

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mises.org/system/tdf/A Short History of Man — Progress and Decline.pdf?file=1&type=document
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mises.org/system/tdf/From Aristocracy to Monarchy to Democracy_Hoppe_Text 2014.pdf?file=1&type=document
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Just leaving this here friends

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Can I start posting Hoppe?

agreed, libertarian are subverted fags
you know it.

>agreed, libertarian party are subverted fags
wew, fixed

You should start adding recommended reading on the OP. Go search on the Mises Institute what books they have on .pdf and then post the link.

HOPPE READING LIST

>The Economics and Ethics of Private Property (1993; 2006 2nd edition)
mises.org/system/tdf/Economics and Ethics of Private Property Studies in Political Economy and Philosophy_3.pdf?file=1&type=document

>A Short History of Man: Progress and Decline (2015)
mises.org/system/tdf/A Short History of Man — Progress and Decline.pdf?file=1&type=document

>Democracy—The God That Failed (2001)
riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf

>A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism (1988; 2010 edition)
mises.org/system/tdf/Theory of Socialism and Capitalism, A_4.pdf?file=1&type=document

>From Aristocracy, to Monarchy, to Democracy (2014)
mises.org/system/tdf/From Aristocracy to Monarchy to Democracy_Hoppe_Text 2014.pdf?file=1&type=document

>The Myth of National Defense: Essays on the Theory and History of Security Production (2003)
mises.org/system/tdf/Myth of National Defense, The Essays on the Theory and History of Security Production_3.pdf?file=1&type=document

>The Private Production of Defense (1998; 2006 edition)
mises.org/system/tdf/The Private Production of Defense_3.pdf?file=1&type=document

>Economic Science and the Austrian Method (1995)
mises.org/system/tdf/Economic Science and the Austrian Method_3.pdf?file=1&type=document

>What Must Be Done (2009)
mises.org/system/tdf/What Must Be Done_7.pdf?file=1&type=document

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Fuck the libertarian party and fuck gary johnson. He was the biggest idiot i have ever seen. He does not represent libertarianism, only himself.

pic related

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Yeah I'm trying to build a good OP but I wanna avoid an ugly wall of text that people will just scroll past anyway way to condense all this shit? maybe one link that will take you to all of these?

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What are your stances on drugs?

I'm not for the goverment enforcing drug laws. its your families resposibility to keep you from shooting up.

That depends. If you're a minarchist then you admit there's public property, so you have to be pro-drugs. If you're an anarcho-capitalist, then you acknowledge there is no public property, and therefore the "stance on drugs" becomes irrelevant since each property owner decides what is or isn't allowed to take in his property.

That's pretty much how I feel about it. I don't care what people do in the privacy of their home.

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more like Liebertarian amirite?

Right on. Stay a while, here have a snek.

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That's a pretty edgy op image for a bunch of pacifist pussies and faggots.

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>libertarians
>pacifists

You don't think those communist faggots are going to physically remove themselves right?

No one here is a pacifist.

Not letting me violate the NAP is statism

violation of the NAP results in self defense, not goverment action.

>when you buy a propriety full of niggers but they refuse to get out and you gas them all
Thats the world I want to live in

Self defence is individual statism localised to a singular level

Yes, you're right. you own yourself and can use force to defend yourself justifiably.

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wow I knew the guy was based. But i didn't know he was THAT based. I guess im a #hoppemissle now.

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Wrong. Self defence is oppressive to the attacker

Libertarinism is dead. Personal responsibility doesn't speak to people.

Focus on one thing in the OP to get a conversation started and put the general links in a second post

That's the purpose of self defense dingus. To oppress your attackers.

Then you are no different than a statist.

A true libertarian surrenders

Alright then, turn the other cheek and fuck off Randy.

>"I'm pro-individualism, against the state, hierarchy, monarchy, empires, tradition, law and order, and community."
>"b-but I'm totally right-wing because I don't like commies"

KYS

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>confusing degenerate libertarians with Sup Forums libertarians
Fascism is totalitarian centrist

none of those things are right wing in america. except law and order i guess

If you believe tradution will be preserved through state ordained force, you are an idiot
>The only way to maintain order and virtue is through the family unit and church
>If you are too much of a cuck to keep your kids in check through your own diligwnce, and yield to the power of an oppresive state, whose political and ideological allegience can be swayed at any moment, your bloodline does not deserve to survive the winter.

The contemporary Libertarian Party is a weird Koch Bros. front made up of Ayn Rand fanboys.

The smaller government, more freedom foundation of Libertarian thought isn't something a lot of socialists would probably get down with as it requires the community to be more involved with matters of government spending.

That's one of the best AnCap balls I've seen.

heres the supersized version

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>Sup Forums libertarians
>not a bunch of pothead NEETS who want to fuck boipucci and furries

Which is why the overton window needs to be moved to the right.

>The only way to maintain order and virtue is through the family unit and church

Well you can say this but that doesn't make it true.

>>The only way to maintain order and virtue is through the family unit and church
>Well you can say this but that doesn't make it true.
Not an argument

What would you have maintain virtue instead, a statist government?
>The Liberal Dystopian government present in most of our countries still can't stop Sup Forums from subverting them.
>Monarchies, fascist regimes, etc will always fail to extreme decadence. When all it takes is one person in your entire society to become degenerate, for the whole society succumb to decadence, you have a problem.
>In a libertarian society, virtue is fought off at each man, household, and community.
>Remember, if there is a totalitarian regime, traditionalists won't be the ones with their fingers on the trigger.
>It'll be radical leftists dictating monogamy to be "oppresive" against whores. They will decree physical health an injustice against fat people. They will claim that being white is an aggression against people of color, and must be paid for.

nice meme lad

You didn't make an argument either, you made a false statement, and called me an idiot. Give me an actual argument and I will respond in kind.

To niggers, you mean. Don't worry about those, the removal of the welfare state will sort them out.

No, a libertarian slaughters every threat in advance to save not only his own liberty, but also the liberty of others. This is the only form of violent collectivism in a libertarian social order.

A totalitarian state implies an inorganic state, which I do not support. I support the organic state.

>In a libertarian society, virtue is fought off at each man, household, and community

A libertarian state cannot even affirm the idea of the household or community, much less any idea of "virtue".

>pro-individualism
yes
>against the state
yes
>hierarchy
Not really, you're the lord of your land and property. Other than that, yup.
>monarchy
I guess you could install yourself as a king of your property, with people willingly becoming your subjects. Hoppe even praises monarchy because the ruler has to fear for his life if he fucks up.
>empires
Long as you don't break the NAP along the way, you're good.
>tradition
Liberty is the most underrated tradition of your founding fathers, and has roots deeper than any other tradition.
>law and order
Ever heard of the NAP? All violence against freedom-loving people is grounds for penalty by anyone of their allies.
>community
How else you think a stateless society will rule itself? By separating itself into communities, of course. It gets lonely out there.
Weak.

Happy James Earl Ray day Ghost

Liberty is a meme, and none of this can be understood as right-wing in any sense.

Would require a civil war or revolution to happen won't happen through the democratic process.

The best way to maintain order, tradition and virtue is through the community of the nuclear family and church. The degradation of both in the present has led to the undermining of order tradition and virtue.

Liberty ceased to be a meme when the Americans threw British tea into the Boston harbour.

What is your definition of right-wing?

Then civil war it is.
Democracy is a stupid process, anyway. You shouldn't make decisions for people you don't even know.

ITS MAGNIFICENT.

I don't think their will be civil war or revolution unless they economy really gets fucked up. Too many vices and comforts these days.

Monarchy, hierarchy, imperium, aristocracy, tradition, patriarchy.

The "right" in America is nothing more than stingy liberal capitalists that don't like paying taxes.

And how do you maintain the nuclear family with an individualist mindset? We have already seen how women's liberation has destroyed the nuclear family.

The best way to maintain the nuclear family is through arranged marriages, not allowing divorce, and incentives/subsidization of procreation.

The degradation of the Church is due in part to the undermining of monarchy and the allowance of many different sects of Christianity to exist.

Hey guys I'm currently in pic related, but I'm in a moment of change in my believes, so if you you give me good arguments I might move more to the right.

My main problem is with taxes, government shouldn't have the right to take them away from me, I 100% consider them theft. The only way it wouldn't be theft is if the government helped to give me the product of service I'm buying.

But, it is still necessary in some ways I guess. Of course not to give welfare, public education or public healthcare, I should not be forced to pay for someone else healthcare, they are not my responsibility. Only people that want services from the government should pay for those services. Although the government, I think, needs money for things like muh roads, security and other kind of things that couldn't be done with only private ownership.

So my question is, is there a moral way way to the government to take money from the people in order to create services that only they can provide? I'm think tariffs from foreign companies that want to sell their stuff here. Or it wouldn't be enough so you have to tax people, if you have to, how much is too much?

Or is there another alternative? Roads and military can be privately owned? If that's the case, give me some examples in which it has worked.

>Needing a state to affirm your own concepts of community and virtue
>You really are a complete untermensch
>In a libertarian society, people dictate community norms through ostracization, and refusal to do trade.
>No government can force you to employ a tranny, or to have niggers as tenants.
>No government can foster the growth of NEETS, drig addicts, and deviants through welfare.
>People have to become intradependent on themselves, the family unit, and the community instead of dependent on the state.
>People have to work to live
>Degenerates are forced to the outskirts of town to congregate in their own filth until their demise.

Women's liberation is only possible with the presence of a state to support them.
>In a libertarian society whores would be banished from the community, with no hope of getting engaging in the mutual exchange of property, charity, or socialization, unitl they all remove themselves from the gene pool.
>Welfare, child support, alimony, and Affirmative Action are all government creations.

Look up Geolibertariansim and mutualism.

Your error is the assumption that the existence of the state implicitly guarantees rights for degenerates and minorities, when really it is only when the emergence of liberal, individualistic, libertarian, and democratic values emerge within a state that these rights begin to appear.

Philosophically speaking, the best defense against the positive rights of these groups is to affirm the positive rights of the ruling class.

You have a rather utopian view of libertarian societies, which is unsurprising. What is more likely than a patriarchal libertarian society is the "my gay boyfriend and I can use AR-15s to protect our pot plants" meme. Just look at the people who attended the libertarian convention and see which type of people this ideology attracts.

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Who builds the roads?

It will. What type of government do you support? How do people become the "ruling class?"
>Monarchy led to inbred degenerates wasting money on trivial luxury goods destroying their country and giving money to kikes.
>Democracy will lead to the scenario I portrayed in my post
>Even theocracy has faultered to horrible popes, just look at the one we have now.

>yfw he was banned from the Libertarian party for that stunt

I can post some neo-nazis smoking meth and ass fucking eachother if that is the road we are going down.

I am an Orthodox Monarchist. People become part of the ruling class naturally, as some people are superior to others. It is by elevating the superior person that the life of the inferior person is given meaning. Individualism denies hierarchy and in doing do makes life meaningless for everyone beyond materialism.

How does individualism deny hierarchy? Hierarchy can and does develop voluntarily.

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