Muh capitalism

> Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world

Tell me how capitalism is a fair and sustainable political and economical system.

Free market doesn't work. It necessarily leads to an equilibrium in which there remain just a dozen extremely large syndicates which don't compete anymore, but simply divide the spheres of influence.

Capitalism can survive only via indefinite expansion. Today it's China where the chink sews clothes and builds shit for his master in the West, being paid a plate of rice for that. Tomorrow, it will be India, then Africa ... and eventually there will remain none.

Capitalism is a system where the rich get richer, the poor get poorer.

Ok, now start bitching about communism and shit (I'm not a commie btw, but you don't care cos you're too stupid to analyze words -- everything which doesn't praise the holy free market meme is communism in your opinion). Btw, I'm not even a social marxist who support welfare and illegal immigration.

pol will defend this

i've got plenty of ideas of reform of penal codes and law enforcement, foreign policy, etc

not at all sure about economic systems; part of me reckons that a competent and faithful gub'mint could run a superior command economy but history and experience tells me that such a thing is incredibly unlikely

fascism/natsoc is often tauted as a third option but it seems a bit more identitarian than economic, for better or worse

whats your third option m8?

retard

Socialism.

Gross world product per capita is about the same as the gross domestic product per capita of countries like Costa Rica and Thailand, and significantly lower than that of Germany.

So, yeah, go ahead and share everything equally and enjoy your far shitter standard of living at the same time.

Is this the newest leftypol meme? I've seen this same thread get made like 5 times. Saged.

in my experience, when most folk refer to socialism they're referring to distribution of services by the central government, along with more stringent regulation of corporations' actions and higher tax, right?

i don't quite see how this socialism is meaningfully different from capitalism aside from certain services considered essential being guaranteed by the central government

Capitalism is fair because it rewards you for what you supply based on how much demand there is out there. And more importantly, it gives you a lot of freedom in that *you* get to decide how to operate.

The tendency to a few large companies does happen sometimes in capitalism, but not as much as you would think. Why? Because as a company gets larger, it inevitably becomes less efficient and less flexible. Thus little guys (such as myself) have no difficulty competing against them. The worst situation with this isn't even in capitalism, it's communism, where there is only 1 company effectively. And in between is socialism (aka "mixed economy") like we have in Canada, where via regulation the government controls business, with the result that they collude with large companies but not with small (that would be impractical), thus making it such that only large companies can compete in some sectors.

generally agreed

>Because as a company gets larger, it inevitably becomes less efficient and less flexible.

but I would disagree with this; especially with telecoms in this nation (and likely yours but i am uninformed), the larger companies have a huge advantage by possessing the capital and longevity/sustainability required to hire or contract a battalion of lawyers

these telecoms can easily squash would-be upstart companies through frivolous lawsuits; even if the suit has a significantly low probability of success, the smaller telecoms are obligated to attend court and hire representation

this'll break the smaller companies, but is absolutely worth it to the large ones

plenty of other issues, but they can generally boil down to a private entity using a public entity (ie, courts, politicians/lobbyists, byzantine tax code, etc) in some way to gain an unfair advantage

>2017
>thinking we aren't an oligarchy

8 richest people in the world
>2 from Seattle
>2 from the Bay Area
>only 1 from muh capital of the world

Emerald city confirmed for masterrace

That's true. And yes, the telecoms are the same way in Canada. Part of the problem for telecom startups is the regulation, but as you say, you also need to have a large legal budget to even open your doors. One would have hoped that judges would be wise to this trickery, but it seems that in practice, they aren't.

You get the exact same results with the cooperatist system. The only difference is that all the employees get some of the ownership in the company.

seems very difficult to clamp down on frivolous lawsuits, as well

very subjective term and difficult to hammer out a framework defining what is frivolous and what is not, would be lovely to see federal/state courts take a stand on it but the power would be nearly wholly up to them to determine what is frivolous

I don't think Capitalism was meant to be there forever, it was likely just a temporary system designed to promote materialism and remove spirituality from everyone's heart and mind.
We are probably nearing the end of this rather sad chapter of our journey.

>born rich
>gain money from having money and assets
>produce literally nothing
>people on anonymous imageboards who work at your walmarts making you money praise you as ubermensch and worship you

I couldn't make this up if I tried.

There's not a single capitalist free market in existence today. The last time the US had a free market was well over 100 years ago. Most European nations have never, ever tried capitalism.

It's all corporatism & mixed models. Kys user.

Fuck Seattle you're all cunts
t. Sumas

One tweet from Trump attacking Microsoft with the stock going down as the results and POOF, Gates loses billions.

A lot of that wealth is virtual.

What do you do when the doable ain't done doin yet?

>free market capitalism has never been done before!

And you mock the communists.

Sup Forums has always been against the rothchilds. I dont know how you missed that.

>Send aid to 3rd world shitholes
>millions and millions more babies are born in complete poverty
>wtf the 1% are screwing us!!!!!!

The problem with capitalism lies with the fact that excessive wealth can be inherited. When everyone starts at the same place the best will naturally rise to the top harmonising in a natural hierarchy, this is upset by inheritance because it allows unfit people to remain at the top while the best get sidelined creating an inefficient mess.

i'm not attempting to argue that wealthy individuals or families are inherently more virtuous, intelligent, or capable than non-wealthy individuals or families

that was a nice strawman tho with a good holo to go with it

yes goym dont support the free market, let the state decide it for you! it does a better job!
>Today it's China where the chink sews clothes and builds shit for his master in the West, being paid a plate of rice for that. Tomorrow, it will be India, then Africa ... and eventually there will remain none.
capitalism liberated them you dumbass, whitout it the chinks would be nothing but dog fuckers

>Capitalism is fair because it rewards you for what you supply

So if I do nothing but sit in my luxurious mansion sipping Darjeeling all day, and I own a shit ton of company and make mad dosh from it, what am I being rewarded for supplying?

The Jews love the free market because they can societally scam you at an even faster rate.

Make a deal with the devil, he'll eventually come for your soul.

>muh gommunism
put a katana up your onahole

>The Jews love the free market because they can societally scam you at an even faster rate.
are you sure they dont prefer a powerfull state runned by themself (commmunism)? the market if free, people decide what to buy

Capitalism is fair when every man is presented with the same opportunities in life. Unfortunately that's unachievable and is why rich kids remain rich while poor kids remain poor and class movility is such a rarity.

>tfw mixed economies and corporatist systems have always ensured the least starvation and highest economic stability for the people