United States of Europe

Why do people opposite it?
What's so wrong about it?

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Why the fuck is Austria a part of Germany?

Basically the USSR under the guise of "multiculturalism and diversity"

There is no Germany

nice try mikola

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I don't know why they oppose it. If the USE had a directly elected president, then it would have a president which represents the majority of the people. It is much more likely that a Trump-like figure gets to the presidency in Europe with a USE than with the current elitist, undemocratic EU where the elites just hand each other positions without real elections.

For the same reason Moldova is part of Romania.

The vision is for a United Mixed Race Europe. Look up the Kalergi Plan.

EU = Anti-white. Merkel knew what she was doing when she invited the entire 3rd world to Europe.

Its not inherently a bad idea, but the system as it exists is woefuly incompetent and ideologically cancerous, and there is no hope for reforming it from within into something better.

It finally proved its worthlessness when it devoted so much of its resources to faciliating a literal invasion by endless waves of brown people instead of doing its job at repelling them at the EU's external borders.

Why are the few Ukrainians on Sup Forums such monumental faggots?

Because people like the idea of democracy

EU is not democracy. Also Islam. Europe does not need Islam and the EU is perfectly content with destroying every country in Europe so they can virtue signal mohammad's dick right up Merkel's ass

Turkey, are you fucking kidding me?

the best thing about it is that we will not be in it.

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>United States

It's called european Union you subhuman scum. Stop parroting the americans

They never got the EU gibs that the rest of the former USSR in Eastern Europe got.

Putin would rather want to see entire would burn rather than let Belarus escape their sphere of influence.
also
>ukraine, turkey, moldavia, kosovo, albania, switzerland
>in eu
yeah it will never happen

coz if u watch eufaggots propaganda every day u believe sooner or later

UKRANIAN.

HAHAHAHA.

Dude, just renounce your identity and become Russian.

EU is Germany, pseudo france and the others.

The others are better alone for economical reasons (productivity, prices and so on):

In short, if EU is old eu, south Europa = industrial power house (cheap land, cheap salaries, high eucated individuals, a lot of demand).

SO, EU HAS TO FAIL.

The larger a state, the less say the people have. The nation state remains the true foundation for happiness and harmony. Ukraine and England share nothing in common much like Norway and Albania so just manage your own nations affairs and stop undermining self determination.
>Inb4 muh fedral state
Once the EU is the USE, nations will be so bound that you will never be allowed to secede from the Union. Whats more Federalism will inevitability be centralized into either Brussels or Paris (Probably be the Capital) when economic hard times come about or war much like the federal government in the USA who abuse the 10th amendment.

half germany already turkey wake up hans

What happen when you post from Crimea?
is it still considered ukrainian on chan?

We've killed each other a hundred times over to establish the borders we have so that each people can live in peace in their own countries. Why the fuck should we mix everyone up again and restart the cycle?

niggers and skypes

I'm only opposed to the one that the Eurocrats want.

>Turkey there
>Russia not
I hope Putin nukes you soon.

It's harder to hide the fact that most people don't want refugees in their home countries if there are multiple countries to begin with.

appeasement

There is nothing wrong with the EU's fundamental freedoms; free trade, free movement of labour, etc. make sense under the framework of countries with quite a bit of common history, common culture, and generally genetically similar people, which is why Europeans have common ancestors.

The problem with a European federation is that things become top-heavy. Thereotically, a very devolved government in the Swiss style wouldn't be so bad, but we know that's not happening.

>Why
a germany project?

>countries not in the EU in pic
>all those wrong borders
>Kaliningrad in EU
really makes me think

nothing to win only shitholes like you will gain something

dont want to share a flag with turks, sinti and roma, italia, spain, and other non white countrys.

and wat we get? niggers and arabs? no thx

the only flag i want to live under is the russian.

Because it will have countries like Germany in it and we all know they exist to destroy Europe, the home of the white man.

The fact that Merkel hasn't had an "accident" yet just goes to show how far they have fallen.

Why the fuck would we want to be in partnership with a group of people who can't even save themselves?

JUST THROW WATER ON THE WITCH, IT WILL ALL GO AWAY

I support only the kind of EU which is a loose union involving all the current countries, but does more co-operation on defense of the outer border, has strict immigration laws for 3rd world countries and actively seeks to crack down on shitskin crime and sends all of the troublemakers and immigrants back to their shithole countries.

I don't support the kind of federalized EU that is like US, because european countries have unique ethnicities, and I don't want them to mix and blend under the guise of "LETS BECOME USA version 2.0"

I'd be okay with that as long as the EU would been held accountable to democratic principles.
The reality is that the EU is a bureucratic monstrosity, inefficient, undemocratic and ripe with corruption.

Triggered?

>, has strict immigration laws for 3rd world countries and actively seeks to crack down on shitskin crime and sends all of the troublemakers and immigrants back to their shithole countries.
What're you talking about, no one nigger don't want to come in baltic states

>What is wrong with bankers in thrall to the Kalergi Plan aboloshing nation states and inviting millions of Muslims to Europe

Hurry up and get annexed by Russia

or is it Germany that is part of Austria?

Without Eastern-Europe, I wouldn't oppose it. But the cultural gap is just unbearable at this point.

The middle part of Europe until France and Poland could work, since there are too many freeloaders in the other countries. Right now, EU is pretty much a social union where the rich pays for the poor, instead of letting Darwin take care of them.

fuck off

The idea is neat but was poorly executed. Also there isn't really an european identity as we don't even speak the same language.
Maybe it will work someday but these things take decades and right now the way it's done is disgusting everyone

>I don't want them to mix and blend

This is already happening. It's been happening for hundreds of years.

Do it! Become a centralized federal government like us.

because countries like Ukraine are involved. Now a nordic/germanic union i would support

Yes.

unelected officials.

Because the USE will be a big dumb kike proxy like the USA.

It is a undemocratic, illegitimate and totalitarian government with the aim to bring all of Europe into a giant super-state.

It is completely controlled by unaccountable and not democratically elected members of the European elite aiming to shape Europe into a socialis utopia, without regard to the suffering that will cause.

Thankfully it is already a sinking ship and unless there is another powergrab by the elites it will burn to the ground in the coming decades.

Yeah, I'm sure Albania is part of Kosovo.

>centralized political system
>reduced soverignty
>all of Europe's cultures and religions
>cess pool of multiculturalism
>erasing centuries of national heritage and national identity
If even a couple of slavs who lived in a federal state side by side for decades couldn't keep themselves from genociding eachother before Tito's body even turned cold, why would this work? The German Empire didn't work, the Austro-Hungarian Empire didn't work, the Russian Empire didn't work and Yugoslavia didn't work. Multiculturalism is the death of nations.

Mate it's an ancient "connection" the two countries have...

Because the EU already functions as a quasi dictatorship, it would be even worse if these were to be implemented. The idea of the EU alone is fucking wrong anyway, it goes against the fundamental principle of sovereignty

Fuck the EUSSR, burn it to the ground already.

FTFY OP. No need to thank me.

Why are Americans so fucking dumb, whenever I hear you fat oafs talk about the EU its under the veiled assumption that the EU functions exactly like the federal government in the USA functions.

Stay out of our affairs for once reeeeeeeee

The EU is Germanys (4th?) attempt at european domination, this time done with a handclapping peace is the goal man message compared to bullets or undermining the catholic church.

Didn't work in the USA either.

No, it's just regular Jewish world domination.

even if once it happens, Ukrainia wont be part of

u are a fucking russian claim now btfo

This is the stuff nightmares are made of

I have as much in common with a Swede as I do with a Bulgarian: practically nothing. There is no European identity, that makes me cringe.

BLANDA UPP

This also

Failed miserably in Spain.

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>What's so wrong about it?

Fuck off hohol, we don't want to be a part of it!

Woops :^)

We didn't win 2 world wars just to have a German president.

Because border control is run by leftist's and "liberals". Also, we don't wan't the Russian mafia marching into our countries.

Because the nation-state is the best and most efficient type of society we can have.

>free trade
Yeah, but only with countries within the EU. You can't decide to get any trade deals outside of the EU unless the EU commission wants to. It also kills local industry and production, here they're trying to silently kill our agricultural industry, France has monopoly on nearly all energy production. Once we're fully dependent on staying in the union, leaving is suicide, they will be holding us hostage
>free movement of labour
Which kills the job market because it gets flooded with poorly-educated cheao labour from the eastern European members in the union.

Not so fast

>Monteniggers with the Serbs
ok
>Austrians with Germans
ok
>Moldovans with Romainians
ok
>Kosovo with Albozergs
not ok
>Fyrom not with Us
Triggered

Because it's not a democracy, it's a bureaucracy!

Because quite literally the only thing the EU has going for it is tariff-free trade across a wide area. Problem is, whilst that was hard to establish in the 1950s, now it's a complete anachronism as we have the WTO.

Fuck off toilet cleaner
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Fuck off I dont wanna be united with you mainland scum especially you you piss poor slav subhuman. Fuck off

>Once we're fully dependent on staying in the union, leaving is suicide, they will be holding us hostage
Already happened here, we are fucked if we leave and fucked if we stay. Our internal market is in shambles. I say we leave and starve for a while than prolong this bullshit any further, it'll be much worse down the line.

Exactly. A european union in terms that trading is easier and better for everyone, immigration is controlled and defence for other states under certain circumstances is good. What we have now is pure bullshit.

Lol is this the original ad?

>Iceland as part of the EU

Yes.

Ukrainians come in two breeds.

Honourable white nationalists
Faggy bolshevik pro eu cucks

socialism and euro

Everything is wrong about this 4th Reich.

Wow, rude.

The president who hurriedly starts to oppress all the european nations.

In order not to discriminate against some they start to oppress all.

Kalergi plan, this too,

>Honourable white nationalists
>Faggy bolshevik pro eu cucks
But nationalists are pro-EU and faggy bolsheviks are pro-russian...

Only because you gave up doesn't mean Ukrainians will.

didn't realise they had internet in Dundalk

Your nationalists are stupid cunts then.
The Russian divide is used to herd you into prison.

EU is the prison for nations. And ugly one.

Why you have to be so mean?
Pls no bully.

nigger are you too stupid to realize that both sides are controlled by Jewish Oligarchs?
You already fucked up, even the European communistic commission is losing hope in you because you can't fight corruption and literally all parties in your parliament are owned by Jews (again)

sorry dude, but Ukraine doesn't belong to Europe
just like Turkey

It's a great idea in theory but it required good leadership for the actual benefit of the people of Europe rather than cronyism and corruption..which is killing it

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>EU is the prison for nations. And ugly one.
Just like USSR, really?

when will i ever understand ukraine :(