Buddhism is the true way and will bring about peace for humanity

Buddhism is the true way and will bring about peace for humanity.

Since people don't realize this, Buddhists should spread their message by armed force.

Any ideas on how this can best be accomplished, Sup Forums?

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You (((people))) are already shilling your religion here in California enough.

It's a philosophy, not a religion.

>the goal of all life is to not care about anything, die and never come back
Fuck off

>Since people don't realize this,
uh.. where've you been brah? If you watched during the election cycle, Trump is the proof

I disagree, Buddhism requires worship of forces and deities and in my opinion that's the core of any religion.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_sexuality

buddhists can't have sex

that is why it will never spread

Don't know too much about the subject, it's what I've been told.

>Buddhism
>Armed Force
pick one

faggot

You could make this same argument about Christianity.

:3

I can only talk about what I know from Soto Zen (there are many branches of buddhism that are quite different from each other), but I gotta say I have never been told to believe anything.

To seek the way is deviating from it

Yes I agree. Most of the degeneracy of humanity is rooted in the impurity of mind(hatred, laziness, passion etc)
Buddhism is the ultimate red pill.

You know nothing young grasshopper.

Dsignated shitting streets are the only way.

educate me! :3

Only in the Pure Land tradition. Which is a small minority.

Celibacy is practiced to cultivate clarity of mind and self-discipline. It is prescribed for monks, and occasionally for dedicated lay-people.
The rest can bang as much as they want as long as they remain faithful.

that's good to know. a/s/l? want to have sex?

Kek

seriously. want to do something in the thread?

well, there's the sinhalese buddhist nationalists for one.

>'the ultimate goal of life is escape from existence'
>not being rooted in sadness, self-pity, and selfishness

No because those states are impure.
The goal is to see reality as it is, and it turns out the most things that we're so preoccupied with is not worth being involved in.
Buddhism seems nihilistic from the outside but it is not really so.

didnt Budha say that people shouldnt follow him?

>Zen Buddhism
>pretentious hipster white boi pretending to know about Buddhism

Fuck off. As a true blue Mahayana Buddhist I abhor these self entitled pretentious faggots who """"""converted""""""" to their meme Buddhist sect because they lack attention.

i remove your pants and start kissing you, slightly pushing you and guiding you onto the bed. i notice the bulging erection in your underwear, and reach down to feel it.

He said that we can't get anywhere by dogmatically following others, including him.
You have to always test if what is being said is really true, never taking anything at face value.

But objective reality is the same for everyone, to know it and experience it is to become enlightened.

Only through meditation can you find release from the feels.

I don't think you belong in a Buddhist chat mate.
Get your shit together.
Wake up.

mahayana is meme magic, try theravada

Buddhism in the west has fallen a bit to commercialism. And lack of determination really.
There are those who take it seriously though if I may say so myself.

yeah, you're really turned on, i can tell. i'm a guy by the way.

i push my tongue into your mouth and start making out with you. i reach into your underwear and slowly jerk your hard cock, teasing the head.

I follow Theravada as well. With the exception of pure land the Mahayana sutras have like a large overlap with the theravada.
I have no quarrels with the mahayana.

Taking seriously? Too bad you seem pretty attached to your practice

I come in and shoot you
Can we continue with Buddhism?

The practice boils down to letting go. You cannot be attached to letting go.
Also check the Appativana sutta, calm determination is ok and beneficial for the practice.

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i'm Buddhist, so let's continue!

As for the spread of Buddhism. The way has always been skillful means. Along with the fact that people will soon realize that materialist ways don't work, and then Buddhism has the answer. Especially in times of crisis.

This is how Ashoka became Buddhist, and all of India was a Buddhist state for some time.

That's alright, I just find hilarious people saying "See? These are the REAL buddhists, those others are the fake ones, SOOOO different!"

And thanks for the text recommendation, will read

so is this accurate?

>peace for humanity

Buddhism isn't humanistic at all, it is about gaining enlightenment.

Gods exist in Buddhism and they are worshiped.

>spread their message by armed forces
>buddist

pick one

It's not that other are less real. But Buddhism is training the mind. If you meditate max 10 minutes a day and drink and party the rest of the day, you can technically call yourself a Buddhist. But are you really? Do you even 'lift'?

>Buddhism is the true way
everything is part of brahman, even your "philosophy" inspired by induism. buddhism bring nothing new to the table.
veda be blessed.

>Buddhism isn't humanistic at all, it is about gaining enlightenment.

nope, it's about having sex with cute Asian girls, and impregnating them with your seed.

No not really. You need to be calm and focused to do things properly. But Buddhism is more proactive and involved in making humanity better.

yeah I mean this whole thing about visualisations and... trust
that doesn't sound autistic enough for me, theravada encourages your to go for the king-like boddhisattva goal, leave everything behind and achieve liberation asap

Been a practicing Buddhist for two years. Don't know what you're talking about.

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>nope, it's about having sex with cute Asian girls, and impregnating them with your seed.

so we're both Buddhist! want to have sex? :))))

No no, grasshopper.
Visualizations are practiced only in Tibetan Buddhism.
Boddhisattva goal is Mahayana, not theravada.
I'm also a bit iffy over Pure Land but atleast they're Buddhist.

>no lie
>no sex
>no meat
>no gambling
>no wine

the fire god comes looking for fire

>a life without challenges is the true way to achieve peace

you could say the same about staying in bed forever, if everybody did it then there would be no war.

Does it mean staying in bed all day is a good philosophy, OP? Buddhists seem a bit lazy, they're just like "Oh if I don't do anything, nothing will happen in return." then they brick themselves into a fucking cave and have magical visions

Meanwhile the terrorists are killing people and winning the war on their own terms

I would say the atheist is more buddhist than the buddhist one. One of the forms of meditation can be freely translated as "doing precisely nothing but sitting"

Well, I don't know. Does the dog (or the person who spends its days doing whatever) have the nature of Buddha?

Again, I may be too burrowed in soto zen or even plain wrong, but being involved in making humanity better isn't attachment?

SOKA GAKKAI TRUE FAITH
IS TRUE BUDDHISM AND FOR PEOPLE ALL

SHOKO ASAHARA IS MY HERO

No amount of trolling will make you content.
Do you realize that?

i'm thinking about your needs first, my trolling is secondary and the method by which i improve conditions for others.

want a blowjob?

Involvement with mankind and other living beings is a practice in metta in Theravada.
Yes Zen has a slightly different outlook, meditation for us is not 'just sitting' and such. And Buddha nature is the same as emptiness isn't it? We do practise non-self.

I get your point but are doctrinal backgrounds are different I think.

how about anal? is that part of the three hole path?

>non-self
And here we have it - even buddhism, like all religions, has the essence of life-denial in it

Buddhism is the biggest redpill

i don't prefer to do it, but i can appreciate people who do.

My philosophy lecturer used to joke that he would be the last being clinging to samara, just to prove Buddha was wrong about liberation.

This world cannot be saved.

If Christianity is a slave religion, Buddhism is the religion of masochists.

This is an idiotic misconception. All traditional forms of Buddhism, with the possible exception of early Chinese Zen, rely on beliefs in the supernatural and the worship of Gods.

masochists and nihilists, sure

also shallow West Coast dipshits that wear it like a fancy coat

100% wrong.

No, you misunderstand it. Non-self is a critique on the idea of an internal soul and ego.
Life is cherished in Buddhism.

it's hardly just a critique if the goal of your religion is to attain it

I'd tell you to buy a gun and go attain non-self, but I dunno if you can get a gun over in Russia

Buddhism is the only worthwhile religion

I think you misunderstood the "non-self"... Where is your fist, before you close your hand or after you open it again? How is the "self" different from the "things that are not self"?

Yes, I have the same impression haha
To try and say what is the nature of Buddha for Zen, I leave you with (a translation of) Dogen:

"Therefore, the very impermanency of grass and tree, thicket and forest is the Buddha nature. The very impermanency of men and things, body and mind, is the Buddha nature. Nature and lands, mountains and rivers, are impermanent because they are the Buddha nature. Supreme and complete enlightenment, because it is impermanent, is the Buddha nature."

(I'm loving this discussion)

There is no 'worship' in Buddhism. You don't to believe. That's not what it is about. If you want proof read the kalama sutta.

>How is the "self" different from the "things that are not self"?
The self is different from other life in description
The self is different from non-life in selectively concentrating low entropy
I can wave my self's arms around and jack my self's dick off with them

your great koans are making a mountain out of a molehill, and the molehill is a child's questions that he realizes are irrelevant or framed wrong years later

BUDDHIST DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WORLD DISASTER THEY ARE AT PEACE, THEY HAVE NO EGO, THEY DONT GIVE A FUCK AT ALL, THEY JUST BE, ive had ego death i know what im talking about, it feels amazing to where you just dont care about anything besides nature

Do you also have a feel that english terms relating buddhism such as "no-mind", "emptiness" etc. are almost always confusing?
It's impossible to (accurately) describe an experience with words and altought I realise the ones used are the best fitting ones, I find reading about these subjects difficult to grasp.
Define non-self, no-mind and the concept of emptiness for me, if you can. Is Emptiness about remaining in a state of pure observation without judging?
There are tons of worthless articles and writings on the internet about all of those. Valueable knowledge gets lost in the sea of irrevelancy. I don't know how to filter it out, I do not know any buddhists irl, so I don't really have a way to verify if I understand something correctly

^Not Russian flag.
Non-self is not the goal of Buddhism.
Being dead is not realizing non-self.

What do you disagree with exactly?

it forces you to be one with nature

>The atheist is more buddhist then the buddhist

Well the buddhist still moves somewhere during void meditation.
He is sitting on a float

Emptiness is defined as a quality, describing a region in the universe, where space and time exist but not appreciable amounts of matter

non-self =shut off life, pursue death
no-mind = shut off mind, pursue death of the mental self

Absolutely!
Buddhism is fundamentally about experience. It's not an intellectual framework.

English sucks in explaining what Buddhism is really about.

Life is not 'suffering'
the cause is not 'desire'

People get the wrong idea completely.

Getting a meditation manual written by a monk is the best way to understand.

'Mindfulness, Bliss and Beyond' by Ajahn Brahm is the book I recommend the most.

>What do you disagree with exactly?
Both of these things:
>Non-self is not the goal of Buddhism.
Yes it is, attainment of nirvana = attainment of non-self. Do not lie to me on the internet/
>Being dead is not realizing non-self.
Being dead, by definition, is a realization of non-self. You seem to be trying to say one thing with language but claim you meant something other than what you said. This is a common religious behavior.

Buddists fuck the little boys they bring to temples to train. Fuck Buddism.

The sutras do not match up directly with personal practice and devotion. More often than not, they are treated as sacred texts with thaumaturgic powers, and merely reciting or copying them will bring benefit. There is a much deeper emphasis on ontology and epistemology in the writing of Buddhist theorists than there is in other religions, but in practice it is just as superstitious. Besides, few practitioners really dig into studying the philosophy beyond the basics. I know many Buddhists who chant a Mahayana sutra as their main practice, but few of them actually know the meaning of the ancient language they are reciting.

Interesting.

I probably would have to do Zazen to fully understand. But I see some similarity.

accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn22/sn22.059.nymo.html

I think it boils down to the same thing.

>I probably would have to do Zazen
do Soka Gakkai, they have the highest intellectual tradition explaining every aspect of buddha

You mean Christian and bishops?

It's pretty nihilism.

youtube.com/watch?v=0elhYaESJkY

>Doesn't know about tantra
>Doesn't know about sex guru's
>Knows wikipedia

Nirvana is the cessation of suffering.
non-self is the fact that living beings are 'compounds' of perceptions and moments of consciousness. Without a persistent entity.

How can you realize something when you're not aware?

Oh, you wanna get physics-y, good I'm an engineer, then.

You are saying "I can say these things are different because I made an imaginary line on a graph to categorize things"

> The self is different from non-life in selectively concentrating low entropy
Your chemical organization has less entropy than the air around you, but more than the concrete ground below your feet, so you define yourself as this "sweet spot" between too few and too much molecular disorder? Cute, lines on a graph.

> I can wave my self's arms around and jack my self's dick off with them
So if you turn on a jerking machine to pleasure your dick, the machine is part of you? By the way, why did you decide to jerk off? Free will? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

By the way, how do you differentiate yourself from a mechanical wave? This is interesting

wikipedia was made by the jews

BE CAREFUL OF CHINK APOCRYPHA

SINK
THE
CHINKS

>How can you realize something when you're not aware?
stop playing dumb, you knew which sense of "realize" I meant

You and the Brazilian both have been trying to get away with shit like that this whole thread

>The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Buddhist had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
>Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.
>I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.
>Gradually I began to hate them.

actually the yogacarins dont at all. even though they're mahayanan they're much more closely related to theravadins in that regard

Vietnamese people are sexy.

Let's see a picture of you, cutie. :3