Is a supranational European organization an inherently bad idea?

Is a supranational European organization an inherently bad idea?

If yes, why?

If not, why? What kind of organization would you propose?

jews.

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Different cultures.
Different language.
Socialism and high taxes on a per state level. So if you want to have something like the federal government government in the US, citizens would need to pay 20%-30% of their tax revenue to the federal government - this doesn't work if you are already paying 30%-40% in each state, and state level politicians aren't giving up that revenue any time soon.

I think it could work if it was a federal republic with actual elected and accountable leaders instead of what they've got now.

Also
>common currency without common fiscal policy
nigger what are you even doing

The attempt to create a second USA, in order to feed Shlomo.

As for me, it severely depends on what it is for. However, I think it is a bad idea in general since it would encompass vastly different people from vastly different nations with vastly different cultures and economies.

I could see nations from similar cultures establishing closer ties through some sort of trade league.

True, but I meant more of a future ponderation of when we get rid of that problem.

I consider European federalism as severely deranged, and a common currency for vastly different economies seems like a dumb move in the first place.

The EU is a good idea. White Europeans need to learn to be multicultural one way or another. If it is to be enforced against their will then so be it. Also the EU must stand strong against bigots like Trump, the U.K. and Russia.

probably the best shot Europeans has to survive islam invasion

Consider suicide.

Hate breeds hate. Diversity is strength. Islam is a religion of peace and you bigots need to know it's 2017.

One where people get to vote for the leaders. With term limits of like 8 years. This whole Brussels failure that is the EU should teach you the importance of keeping elitist assholes out of the process. Also everyone should keep control of their borders. And if you want free travel for EU citizens make it a min of ten years first. Either no one can be a citizen in a less then 10 process or they can't travel freely for 10 years.

This Its scary to think that this has been the single longest peace that the European powers have ever had.

We only pull that off by most vimg the fighting. I'm pretty sure we blew up lybia and attempted Syria for the EU's economy. Migrants and oil pipeline.

So define peace.

mehmet you have to go back.
the eu is a horrible idea, its just asking for someone higher up to abuse it as one big european reich (probably merkel) and to fuck over all eu countries, every country was better off having their own currency, and not having openborders for shitskins.

>most vimg
Moving

yugoslavian war?

Peace as in you aren't rolling tanks and armies across each others borders. Lybia, Syria and others where either NATO sanctioned operations or UN peacekeeping.

Supranational sounds good, but you know that it will be only under german conditions... doesn't matter if we're leftwing or rightwing at the time, we will either have our way or there will be destruction for europe, you can only pic one.

Do the Baltics count as mainland Europe though?

Also Ukraine seems to have happened because of the need to draw it closer to the EU to feed the EU economy from that shift. Putin responded with an under the table military campaign and the EU plus us fired back with economic warfare.

I'm not seeing the peace. Also the terrorists attacks rapes and other crime that have come from this.

But it was done for the EU's needs. Instead of fucking with each other the EU stops inter country violence and it shifts outwards.

Only trade really depresses the need for war.

yes.

Fair points so your more war hungry then i thought. My other point would be that it worries me that the EU is pretty much being lead by Germany at this point and that they still have the most political and economic pull out of all the EU states. Essentially you just got 4th reiched by the Germans.

>the EU is pretty much being lead by Germany at this point and that they still have the most political and economic pull out of all the EU state
The EU states sealed their fate as a (((German))) puppet with the Treaty of Lisbon in 2007, where we got rid of unanimity in favour of majority voting.

No, but one that forces us to accept shitskins is inherently bad and will be met with violent opposition. Fuck the EU. I will never forgive Angela Merkel for what she has done.

Which is why any gov should take some ideas from the US. Multiple branches each decided slightly differently and directly elected by the people. Also Merkel makes term limits of like 8 years look good.

That way the economicly strong countries would get more say. But things like branches elected less often or by direct majority vote would water it down a bit.

Like the US where Trump will be president because of the electoral college even though he lost the popular vote.

It destroys culture so it's pretty bad but I think that a unified culture will be necessary in space to keep people unified and avoid huge galactic wars(even though that would be pretty fun). A European wide Theocracy led by a based church would be ideal for leading humanity.