Redpill me on DeVos. I don't even trust wikipedia anymore, her article seems especially biased.
I'm only hearing bad things about her though.
>No experience
>Clips from hearing of her saying stupid shit
Betsy DeVos
Ian Long
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Hunter Brooks
DeVos has a masters in education from Harvard and has worked extensively in public schools across the country. She is the victim of a smear campaign.
Mason Morris
Gonna quote this from the other thread.
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>There is really no evidence of that. Some charter schools in Michigan, and more specifically Detroit, do have better outcomes than the public school system, but on average most of the results have been the same. This seems to indicate there is more of a problem with Michigan and Detroit itself, not necessarily the charter school model.
>Chicago also shows that consolidation of funds doesn't seem to help either. There are still failing schools on the south and west sides that continue to be defunded while money keeps going towards schools in the northern half. CPS has a $1 billion+ dollar budget and has some of the worst outcomes in the country.
>Pushing for school choice and letting people have more options at a local level is not inherently bad, nor is there any evidence that it will damage the public schooling system. Most of the negative push against DeVos is because public teacher unions dislike the idea of being held accountable for outcomes and having more open competition.
>I am not a fan of DeVos, but it is pretty clear that our current system is under-performing and something different needs to be done. Pushing more people towards vocational school is a good thing too. Not everyone needs post-secondary education.
Joshua Foster
Maybe, but she choked and appeared incompetent at her hearing
Id be open to another choice
Elijah Cox
>a smear campaign
she thinks indians still attack wagon trains, zipperhead
Thomas Campbell
Where did you find that?
Her own website says
>A graduate of Holland Christian High School, Betsy received a Bachelor of Arts degree from Calvin College in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Lincoln Morgan
They were asking shitty open ended questions and then interrupting her when they didn't like her answer.
Elijah Walker
She seems fine. Like said the dems are running shit campaign against her because she threatens the public schools one of the core makers of today's democrats.
Matthew Scott
>Actually defending this dumb bitch
I'm a Trump supporter, and I think she'll hands-down ruin the education system if her dumbass is given any say over matters
Brody Stewart
Her Daughters were huge slut, one has herpes, and one was a furious coke head.
Calvin College is a shit college.
She wants to use your tax money for religious education.
Jayden Nguyen
Thanks for the quote Canada-bro.
Here are some good articles from Harvard.
gse.harvard.edu
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Aaron Davis
>crashing the department of education with no survivors
Oh no how terrible stop her please
Angel Collins
I will say her hearing was pretty bad though.
Brandon Price
DoE is a cancerous unconstitutional department created by Jimmy Carter. It has not basis in the constitution and should be abolished.
Samuel Johnson
>live next to Calvin
>see flocks of azn qts
>campus is really nice too
Wyatt James
Devos:
"We Might Need Guns In Schools Because Of Grizzly Bears"
Aaron Morales
The department of education is already a corrupt and bloated piece of shit so let it all burn
Ryder Myers
>'murrica
>ruin the education system
Once you hit the bottom, the only way Is up.
Juan Gray
She never studied education in harvard, kindly stop making things up. here is an article FROM HARVARD about her, which says she NEVER studied there:
gse.harvard.edu
Devos also never worked in a public school, btw
Bentley Gonzalez
So what? Public Schools should be abolished.
Hudson Rivera
You know why you hold this retarded opinion?
>Study shows conservatives are less intelligent than liberals
dailymail.co.uk
>Another study showing the same result even in a worldwide scale
theconversation.com
>Racists tend to be less intelligent than average
livescience.com
Robert Harris
Can somebody give me an example of her "saying stupid shit"? I want to see if it's really stupid or if it's what reddit considers stupid.
Blake Clark
Devos:
"We Might Need Guns In Schools Because Of Grizzly Bears"
Kevin Hill
>fake news sources
you're not helping your case.
Grayson Flores
>dailymail
>someretardleftistwebsite
>livescience
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Nicholas Lewis
What method did you use to determine it's fake? i will tell you.
It said something you didn't like to hear, therefore it's "fake" in your opinion. i'm sure if the articles said something you liked, you would say they are "real".
10/10 methodology user
Jason Perez
She threatens the teacher's unions. Democrats have already proven how hysterically unhinged they become when the holy teacher's union is challenged in Wisconsin 2011. Therefore they have no credibility on this matter.
You just can't trust anything they say. All they care about is upholding the cash cow that are the teacher's unions. Nothing else matters. They would run the entire country's education into the ground before they allowed any harm to come to the teacher's unions.
Eli Hall
Well, mountain lions and wolves can also be problems.
Dominic Myers
Don't teachers in Israel carry ARs or something?
Jace Cook
If the system fine or is it broken.
That's the question.
For 20+ years te dems have been saying it's broken.
In that case you likely need an outsider to take a look, see the assumptions and blind spots which insiders cannot see and then fix the problem. I don't know that she is the right person for the job, but not having worked in public education is not a disqualification if the assertion is that public education is fundamentally broken.
Hunter Nelson
Study: republicans lie three times more often than democrats
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Christopher Long
This is a terrible example and is exactly what I meant by "what reddit thinks is stupid". You couldn't even give me the actual video, you had to give me a video with some nu-male introduction.
Nothing she said here was stupid. The questions were stupid.
>GUNS SHOULD BE BANNED FROM SCHOOL, AREN'T I RIGHT?
>well I think the states should decid-
>YOU DON"T KNOW IF GUNS SHOULD BE IN SCHOOL REEEEEEEEEEEE
>to protect from potential grizzlies
This is an actual problem though. You would think Califags would know this considering there are bears literally roaming around their residential areas, hanging out on park benches and what-have-you.
Sebastian Kelly
They asked her a non-issue question about proficiency vs. growth. The only reason this is an issue is because dems move tons of shitskins into public schools that don't even want to read or write
Ryan Butler
>What method did you use to determine it's fake?
I used the Hillary Poll Method. Did this publication give Hillary a 99% chance of winning on Election Day? Yes? Then they are fake news.
Wyatt Campbell
Department of Education on the Fed level needs to be shut down. Trump also knows this, it may be part of his plan as well
Brayden Miller
1. The example she gave was proven to be false.
2. bear spray is more effective than a gun against a rushing grizzly bear
Noah Green
Meh.
Teachers in Utah CC leagally and I personally know one who did so for 20+ years when it was less than legal. Funny part? He's a dyed in the wool Democrat
Eli Hill
Kike spreading disinformation?
Who woulda thought?
Weak bait, and use another country's proxy next time.
Daniel Lee
She's a direct line to her brother Erik. Her selection is mainly to contingency plan for an establishment vs trump/Trump supporter civil war.
It's already a cold civil war. It will likely go hot in the next 24 hours. Erik and Xe services will enforce the results of the election when the establishment coup goes down.
Grayson Morris
she's going to bring back christian values to school, that's why they're trying so hard to make her look bad
Thomas Scott
How much is soros paying you moveon.org shills to spam this shit every hour?
Cameron Foster
The only publication that said hillary has a 99% chance to win was Huffpost because they had a retarded methology.
Nate silver was spot on, he predicted trump had a chance of 1/3 to win, which is pretty accurate. please remember that the 3 states that won trump the election were razor-thin close
Evan Harris
>proven to be false
Let me guess, Bill Nye the Science Guy made YouTube video about it and that is considered "proving" something?
Thomas Howard
The guy she said told her they use guns to protect from grizzly bears said he literally never told her anything like that
Cooper Harris
Thats not what he predicted
He predicted that there were 4 ways it could end, with 3 favoring Hillary and he did not give them equal probability.
Dylan Sanchez
Does she drop sick bars like MC Devvo?
Jeremiah Howard
Conservative christian.
Will return school control to the state.
Brother is the hardcore patriot and life long republican supporter Erik Prince, founder of Blackwater.
Trump fully trust her.
What more do you need?
Hunter Turner
I'm watching it now. Holy shit! How long is this lady going to talk at her??
Joshua Barnes
>Nate Silver was spot on, he gave Trump a 33% chance of winning
James Baker
Not to mention, over 90% of the department's employees vote Democrat. There can possibly be no good that comes from that.
Isaac Robinson
If liberals are so smart then why do they think all of the races are equal? They believe in evolution until it comes to humans, then they take an almost religious stance on equality. They have fucking eyes don't they. It's baffling, really.
Austin Cook
source?
Matthew Campbell
"Redpilling" means dicovering verifiable truth outside of mere belief, usyally through books and deeper understanding of a topic. Our media control grid words by eliminating deep understanding and replacing it with the sound byte pronouncements of recognized and accredited experts, thereby enabling a consistent party line. Somebody telling you sonething cannot redpill you, it's a one-time gradual process that takes time. Deliberately over-using and misusing our vocabulary is a CTR cultural disruption strategy meant to ruin our effectiveness.
One-line posts are not legitimate, they are not content contribution, they offer nothing to the board and they appear at a time of known bot and paid troll attacks. They are used because you can type off fifty in a minute, in other words they are indistinguishable from spam.
Zachary Long
it is what he predicted
Samuel Bailey
she is based as all fuck, knows what """good schools""" actually are, is not a catlady and wants to tear apart the shitlib institution which is public schools. she's great.
Elijah Carter
The best thing is, no matter how hard the Democrats huff and puff, there is literally nothing they can do to stop Trump's picks.
Ayden Wilson
>Unironically watches secular talk
This is top-tier progressive horseshit
Austin Murphy
As long as its Christianity I fail to see a problem. DoE shouldnt exist anyway. If you dont have kids its not your problem and if you do consider home schooling.
Tyler Stewart
>a non lethal spray is better than a deadly weaopn against a rabid animal
I won't fall for your Jewish tricks
Jace Ross
>DeVos has a masters in education from Harvard
L0Lno disinfo shill
Andrew Miller
public schools shouldn't exist at all. voucher the entire thing, let everyone make their own choices on how they will school their children and turn public schools into options for the tards and rejects that no one wants.
Levi Nguyen
Gas yourself kike.
Austin Bell
Basically Trump is more pay to play then Hillary and Betsy will probably do some 3rd world level thievery of public funds which will probably lead to a lengthy jail time and Drumpfs impeachment
Oliver James
Nate Silver gave Trump a 2% chance of getting GOP nomination
That's all you need to know
His most accurate prediction in 2016 was a dripping in sarcasm tweet in May that Cubs would win world series followed by a Trump presidency.
Yes, a sarcastic as hell tweet was his most accurate prediction.
Jose Bell
>lots of azn qts
Dude, that's literally EVERY COLLEGE IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW
How does that nullify the fact that she's just not a lobbyist for religious education you goddamn sheep? I went to Catholic school and there were tons of azns you fucking faggot.
Oliver Rogers
all you had to do was talk to people
Hunter Gomez
She wants people to be able to use their tax money how they wish for education. If people choose religious schools, then so be it.
Elijah Russell
Yeah we can't let states and districts determine their own policy. Fuck you. It's called the 10th amendment.
Jeremiah Robinson
Holocaust yourself merchant
Mason Bennett
saw some petition by losers to get rid of her but all the things they said were bad about her i actually like
that petition made me realize that she is perfect for the job
Jaxon Carter
Probably because she kept saying the same thing repeatedly and they were strapped for time.
Chase Ross
but letting people make their own choices would be anti-democratic and "not our values"
Colton Foster
Letting people make their own choices is the definition of democracy.
Parker Martinez
But they asked the same question repeatedly even after getting the answer that they didn't want.
Kevin Parker
All sources cite the Politifact "fact checker" count during the election to determine the lie tally.
>(((Politifact)))
BTFO you deceitful piece of shit liberal
Henry Martin
You actually believe that garbage don't you?
Who the fuck votes right dummy? Religious fanatics and niggers who dont want to pay for public services thru taxes.
I'm all for private schooling and shit but this bitch is gonna rekt our education system.
It's gonna be like taking 10 steps back.
But if she does allocate the funds towards schools that actually need it (unlikely) I'll support her but for now she seems like another out of touch billionaire that tools like you will support to the ends of the Earth.
Logan Hernandez
Public school funding has no correlation with educational outcomes. Some of the worst schools in the nation are also the most well funded.
bait/10
Henry Gomez
billionaire, daughter of billionaire, married to a billionaire heir and sister of a billionaire.
Never worked a day in her life. We got cucked.
Noah Ross
As an Italian-American, go fuck yourself.
Jeremiah Thomas
1) thinks states should decide if guns on schoolgrounds are ok
2) has no concept or understanding of even baseline topics in education [franken 'proficiency v growth question]
3) has no familiarity with any laws her department is tasked with enforcing [warren, kaine, hassan all stumped her with questions about laws on the books]
4) believes charter schools should not be held to the same standards as public schools despite being given federal money through voucher programs. charter schools will be able to discriminate to any degree they choose and provide no measurable benefits to students, families, or communities
5) she has never taught in a public school, enrolled in a public school, administrated a public school, or sent any children to a public school yet she will be in charge of the public school system
6) has no familiarity or experience with higher education grant programs and doesn't seem to believe americans have a right to pursue higher education unless they're not poor [sanders questioning]
a large majority of american students go to public schools and she can potentially fuck up the future of an entire wave of americans. she will undermine students rights, opening the door for discrimination against the disabled, LGBT, non-christians, etc. she will make higher education harder to pursue at a time when demand for low-skill labor is low and getting lower. she has proven no competency to be able to do the job, nor any understanding of laws she would be expected to enforce.
she's a disgusting person who is wrong in every way for the position. exactly what trump supporters want
Logan Scott
No need to. Trump and his (((Gang))) will fuck us plenty.
Grayson Collins
80% of this board is fake news, it's just an amazingly large echo chamber
Evan Walker
God forbid we follow the 10th Amendment and let STATES decide what is best. Take your anti-gun agenda and shove it!
Nicholas Garcia
ABSOLUTE BS. TRUMP SAVED AMERICA.
Liam Young
Don't be a faggot man. Public schools should all have updated books and have their facilities maintained, have adequate extracurriculars, and many don't. A lot of schools are at a disadvantage whether it be in a nigger infested ghetto or otherwise. Whether or not that institution succeeds is based off of teacher-student interaction and all that gay shit which can be affected by funding.
And yeah the education system fails its duty to guide students into the adult world properly, you think that bitch is gonna give any shits about that user? All the money is gonna be siphoned by all these faggots getting into these offices.
Jonathan Gray
Get ready for the bear patrol tax.
Jose Rogers
Wrong