Toronto's pronoun warrior and anti-lefty/sjw professor is growing in popularity. His Patreon account is over $15k/month now, and his Joe Rogan interview is one of the top ten JRE youtube videos.
I really encourage everyone here on Sup Forums to take a look at what this man has to say. He is so much more than the talking heads that everyone wants to say is /ourguy/, like Molyneaux, etc.
Please take a second to watch one of his very thoughtful, and for me, inspiring videos.
Does this guy bring anything new to the table or is the the typical anti sjw banter?
Tyler Martin
He's a personality psychologist that has taught at Harvard for what that's worth.
He's not some idiot YouTuber
Ethan Miller
I think he does. He attempts to appeal to the mugwomps on an intellectual level why virtue is necessary.
Noah Gray
He's really intelligent. Authored the book "Maps of Meaning" which is a meta analysis of the architecture of belief. Think Joseph Campbell with all the holes sewed up. And he isn't arrogant at all.
Easton Barnes
>or is the the typical anti sjw banter? Definitely not. He gives a perspective of someone within the academia. Also he does his research on the things he talks about rather than using "everybody knows" arguments.
Juan Martinez
Some of his tweets
Ian Rivera
I learned about him through /fit/ in some thread about motivation and proceeded to watch his psychology lectures, the 2015 series. I have to say that while many of the ideas presented were not unfamiliar to me the way connected them to everyday choices and regular life had a huge impact on me. Beyond that watching his other speeches and conversations led me to a much greater appreciation of my heritage and the value that western culture provides. In my youth I didn't understand these things and had no respect for them. I blame it on growing up in a degenerate catholic church that was full of hateful people who really weren't a community at all.
In any case he really changed my life and I appreciate it immensely. Thanks mr. Peterson.
Kevin Ortiz
He is often quoted saying "Sort yourself out"
It was in response to Joe Rogan asking, "What can people do if they want to support you?"
Zachary Turner
History will remember Peterson very fondly, but I worry whether he is strong enough to withstand the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
I can't think of anyone else better to use as a rallying point, and someone interested in helping people feel proud to orient their lives in a deeply meaningful way.
David Ortiz
He's not really anti-SJW, but advocating personal responsibility and vigilance in fighting both fascism and marxism.
he's the only person i've ever known that i think might have way out of an existential crisis. that by understanding what he teaches you can avoid nihilistic suicide or brainwashed ideology.
Grayson Carter
He's legit. He also has extremely compelling views on religion and faith that I haven't heard outside of Jung or Campbell.
Kayden Gutierrez
Watch his Joe Rogan interview, it's absolutely worth three hours of your time. This guy is on some next level shit. His anti-SJW stance isn't even the most interesting part of his work.
Connor Hill
when will the sam harris podcast with jordan be released?
Logan Barnes
Is his debate with Sam Harris up already?
Leo Gonzalez
Am I a mugwomp? I don't know what one is. He lays out a strong intellectual grounding for many ideas I was previously unable to articulate, which I think is great. It helps me think more clearly.
Daniel Collins
He was the Prophet of Kek before he even knew it. He is one of the many vessels of Kek's Will to change the Zeitgeist.
Chase Cooper
Likely Monday but Sam Harris is probabaly editing the interview in order to make himself seem like the "victor" of the debate and I know for a fact his going to ramble for an hour in the released form explaining why he's right and why Peterson is some fool for being in God. Or even more likely he'll bore the listener to tears about why Peterson is a bad influence because he's giving belligerency to religion and the alt-right or some shit like that and also buy Sam's latest book and never doubt Atheism
Jackson Howard
Are you a grad student of his spreading the word?
That grad student of his of abiguous ethnic background presenting her research with him was hot.
William Cook
I'm always pleasantly surprised by how he has really been taken in by Sup Forums of all places.
Quite universally also. I've seen threads and posts about him on Sup Forums, /his/, /adv/, /fit/, and more.
He really seems to be saying things that have needed to be said for a long time, here and elsewhere, especially the rejection on nihilism.
Sebastian Ortiz
one of the things that sets him apart is his ability to articulate his arguments. he brings phd level analysis to the table. he is very smart, in addition to being correct and having good arguments. many people are just simply correct and have good arguments, if that makes sense. it's good to have intellectuals of this caliber on our side
Cooper Ward
what makes you think harris would pull all that? wont it just be an hour+ of undedited conversation?
Jackson Nguyen
He's made me interested in religion. Really smart and interesting guy.
Luis White
>anti-popperist but can he hold up to Slavoj?
Jayden Morales
A beacon of hope in the libshit cesspool of Toronto.
Brody Mitchell
I went to the extreme but I know Sam is going to ramble for 10 minutes maybe even 30 before the recording of them debating even starts about why Sam is right and he's going to plays this trick of conflating people he doesn't like with other people that's indefeasible. Like Sam Harris thinks Trump is bad because of the KKK, conservatives, white people like Trump ergo Trump is bad.
Jeremiah White
>$15k/month FUCK, I need to get on the outrage bandwagon
Zachary Harris
Stefan Molyneux is a cultist pseudo-intellectual in comparison to JBP. I really recommend his lectures.
if that were the case, it wouldnt be hard to release the podcast right after they did it.
Joe Rogan uploads all his shit on youtube instantly
Sam Harris had the interview on 1/16 and it still isnt out yet. That kike would definitely edit it.
Benjamin Sanchez
ITT: people worship A FUCKING LEAF
Hunter Bennett
Yes, he's a very smart man. The only thing that ruins him for me is the over-reliance on the hollywood-made history of WWII and Hitler for some examples.
>tfw you're so butthurt by Molyneux's superiority that you have to bash him even though no one ITT even mentioned him.
Grayson Richardson
fuck him if he pulls any cheapness. it won't affect the outcome of the debate. peterson argues on a level that won't crumble to "the old testament is unscientific."
it'll be interesting for sure. i'm sick of debates between rational scientists and the usual idiot priest they pull off the street for an easy win.
Joshua Hernandez
OP did, if you read more carefully.
Caleb Moore
Don't be like that
Josiah Cox
OP is obviously illiterate, besides being a fucking leaf.
Alexander Morales
This.
He's far beyond just typical SJW bashing, he completely dismantles their ideology philosophically.
Aiden Lopez
he drops an incredible amount of truth bombs per minute. I mean you can disagree with the man but he makes you think.
Liam Garcia
Probably the greatest thinker alive right now. That JRE was literally mind blowing, felt like I was listening to someone who understood the human experience.
Aiden Phillips
He is a charlatan like Zizek, no sane psychologist still uses the ideas of Jung (which Peterson does)
Elijah Davis
He's studied totalitarian regimes for decades and is convinced this is the start of one. He opposes bullshit pronouns because he's more afraid of what will happen if he doesn't.
Colton Price
>no sane psychologist still uses the ideas of Jung why not
Nathaniel Martinez
not an argument
Justin Peterson
He is the only reason why cuckada is not annexed yet.
he bought you some time to redeem yourselves - you leafs.
Carter Robinson
Best advice anyone can hear
Jaxon Long
>google image jordan peterson >only a couple pictures of him smiling >all are black and white
Isaiah Phillips
>no sane psychologist still uses the ideas of Jung A lot of them still use his personality theories. Also, judging by the average state of mind of the West, psychologists in general don't seem to be very bright.
Hunter Nelson
He is unironically the Prophet of Kek
Daniel Myers
where is the Sam Harris and Jordan Debate I heard something about him doing it the 16th
Bentley Ramirez
There has been a spiritual reawakening in the West
David Turner
Thoth has given wisdom
Michael Perez
Jung like Freud were pseudoscientists, Freud at least got some right, but he and Jung didn't do science >Also, judging by the average state of mind of the West, psychologists in general don't seem to be very bright. Every humanities has problems with ideology, even evolutionary biology has some issues with this >A lot of them still use his personality theories. The consensus is on the Big Five personality test, not stuff like Jung or the Myers-Briggs stuff
But sure some still use them, and especially corporations love the Myers-Briggs (which is also pseudoscience)
Sebastian Morgan
we could meme Peterson into the brightest mind of XXI century. We could be his disciples and write history.
Thomas Nelson
The spokesfrog is truly an inspiration.
Grayson Gomez
Just another manifestation of this. People have had it with cultural marxism and are turning, turning to an older right wing.
Jackson Nelson
whats he need 15k a month? he already has a uni job which pays over 100k per year. hes just another scam artist like milo and ann coulter.
Andrew Watson
>Every humanities has problems with ideology, even evolutionary biology has some issues with this If you don't see the decay of the Western mind compared to a couple of decades ago, then I don't know what else to tell you. Mass histeria everywhere, people lying to themselves... demanding the state for more ridiculous rights from the state hoping it will change reality somehow...psychologists are clearly wrong. People trust neuroscientists more than them. If you don't agree with those things, ok, but you can't deny social academics are more and more conservative and dogmatic, with no room for dissent (Peterson is an example). I don't see anyone refuting him, but labeling him with the usual buzzwords.
Jordan Stewart
Jung, Freud, and Nietzsche have done more to cope with the spiritual and cultural death of the West than any experimental psycholgist to date
Joseph Howard
He has broken Canadian law by not using the new pronouns
They've more or less threatened his job numerous times. He wants to make his videos and podcasts full time because he has millions of views on youtube
Daniel Foster
You aren't alone. He's a spark in a very dry forest.
Gavin Gomez
>He has broken Canadian law by not using the new pronouns i dont think he's even done that yet. he's gotten in all this trouble by simply saying that he WOULD refuse to use the preferred pronouns.
Jaxson Edwards
>hes just another scam artist like milo and ann coulter.
Oh please. Coulter and especially Milo are professional provocateurs. Qualitatively, Milo is no better than the goons he argues with. Milo attacks SJWs at a surface level but Jordan cuts them down from their roots. Also how can you consider people voluntarily giving him money because they appreciate his work some sort of scam?
Eli Price
>patreon.com/user?u=3019121 You tell me. Anti-sjw "dude Jewtube lmao" gets views. He does have a good message, but he doesn't name the Jew and is anti-authoritarian, both left and right. It's the right that solves all other quadrants; he has yet to see this.
Christian Peterson
I mean ideology in the sense of bias. I do not judge him on his dissent, that's a good thing, but I do judge him as a psychologist in which case I call him a charlatan for using debunked stuff.
Note that neuroscience isn't a panacea. Jung and Freud can always be useful, but you do not use them in psychology. That turns psychology in a pseudoscience. In a similar way, Marx and Foucalt should stay out of anthropology as much as possible.
Camden Morris
sorry I misread humanities as humanity forget what I said
Kayden Ward
Praise the Spokesfrog. He didn't try to get attention. One video of him arguing with SJWs blew up on Sup Forums and the powers of fate chose him.
Blake Morales
>Like Sam Harris thinks Trump is bad because of the KKK, conservatives, white people like Trump ergo Trump is bad.
The fuck are you talking about? He never mentions those as his reasons for disliking Trump. He just thinks Trump is a volatile narcissistic moron
Josiah Peterson
Okay, no problem
Adam Peterson
Damn that was good.
>Look at me >Were the sociopsychological phenomenon now
Benjamin Lewis
Are you a psychologist?
Josiah Rogers
>Are you a psychologist? Nope, so you are going to tell me that I'm wrong because I'm not. If you don't believe me just go to reddit and ask the psychologists there how well regarded Jung and Freud are.
Or ask /sci/ or /his/ (but reddit has some actual psychologists). I wouldn't ask /lit/ as they are full of woo types.
And I am sure there's still some psychologists who think Jung or Freud is fine.
Kayden Jones
neuroscience and biology can only tell us physiological lessons, which obviously is a very limited part of the mind and experience. and honestly, the "science" meme is a pretty easy cop out. science doesn't reveal a lot of important information.
Zachary Wood
Visionary.
Joseph Wood
not a refutation, molydrone.
Angel Harris
I like him.
Liam Cruz
>and honestly, the "science" meme is a pretty easy cop out. science doesn't reveal a lot of important information. Well yea, there is limits to science, and there is stuff for which science isn't always helpful. (Like values as example)
But I do honestly think that Jung has no place in science. Outside of that he is fine.
Asher Cruz
how sciency is psychology though? im asking for real, is there any scientifical psychology even possible? how do you even do control?
Easton King
>If you don't believe me just go to reddit
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
you are going to tell me that I'm wrong because I'm not.
HAHAHAHA. Fuck off. Take your hyperrationalist bullshit elsewhere. Nothing about humans is rational, least of all the human mind. Jung examined the impossibly complex world of human imagination and proposed common underlying principals that those manifestations stem from.
Robert Peterson
not even just philosophical questions, such as ethics. science would never reveal a lot of the practices i assume are in use by psychiatrists such as talk therapy.
i'm pretty sure there is a lot of fundamentals discovered by freud and jung that should not be disregarded.
Bentley Barnes
> no sane psychologist still uses the ideas of Jung
Wow you are a literal nigger.
Joseph Sanchez
from wikipedia: >There are over a thousand different psychotherapy techniques, some being minor variations, while others are based on very different conceptions of psychology, ethics (how to live) or techniques.
>Certain psychotherapies are considered evidence-based for treating some diagnosed mental disorders.
not all psychotherapy is "evidence-based".
the most directly scientific is the neurological/biological things, such as looking at how the hardware of the brain works and seeing if there is damage, also pharmaceuticals are tested "scientifically" i guess, but there is controversy obviously about it.
Zachary Long
glad he reached his goal. hopefully he makes it to 20k kek can only imagine how jelly his cuck coworker professors are.
Adrian Garcia
I am not sure if you can ask me. I know a thing or two about psychology but I am not an actual psychologist or student of it. Freud and Jung can't really be subjected to the scientific method, so they are pseudoscientific.
At least contemporary (modern) psychology uses the scientific method, but that doesn't mean everything is hard facts. >Take your hyperrationalist bullshit elsewhere. If you actually read psychology you would know such a thing is not possible. I actually hate lesswrong types, because they assume that you can overcome cognitive biases and be more rational.
I hold a similar view as philosopher John Gray (who isn't even very sciency).
>i'm pretty sure there is a lot of fundamentals discovered by freud and jung that should not be disregarded. That is possible.
Kayden Robinson
Warts and all.
I am not a grad student of his, just someone interested in sharing his ideas, and maybe even raising the level of conversation on pol
Hudson Taylor
>can't really be subjected to the scientific method, so they are pseudoscientific.
they are unfalsifiable. but it is worth noting that rationality is not a guarantee of moving in a productive direction, or increasing wisdom. i think the philosophical psychiatrists shouldn't be closed out because they don't fit testing models. when you design your practice around your testing potential you go in unintended directions. so there should be other drivers besides quantifiable datum.
Ethan Cook
He's against genocide but does he mention the genocide of whites through displacement?
Nathaniel Jackson
>I am not a grad student of his, just someone interested in sharing his ideas, and maybe even raising the level of conversation on pol
An increase in discourse would be nice. It appears that people on Sup Forums are familiar with the works of Jung and Peterson but at the same time they are unable to see how Trump fits the trickster archetype.
I would like someone to explain that to me
John Sanchez
if there is a charismatic leader archetype, it's trump.
Tyler Walker
explain that, please. I fail to see any leadership qualities in trump.
Jace Williams
He'll probably get on great with Harris, I doubt it will be a debate since 1) he doesn't believe Christianity is literally real he just thinks it's good for western culture 2) Sam regularly has Christian and Muslim friends on to talk about their shared interests of which there are many with Peterson.
Surprised people on here like him since he despises fascism and national socialism as much as communism and cultural marxism which is common sense aka anathema to Sup Forums.
Chase Diaz
yeah but if i remember correctly from high school two main parts of doing scientific experiments were:
1- you need to be in control of all variables so you are sure your results don't come from unknown relationships 2 - you need to have a control group
how do you do this in psychology?
psychiatry is more understandable cause it looks at chemicals inside the brain, right? but psychology? how do you test a psychological theory?
but how? i can see them doing a labreport and taking data from experiments, but i cannot grasp how they can be sure their results are not bullshit
Kevin Long
Kidnap people and lock them up in your lab, duh.
Ryan Hernandez
>I fail to see any leadership qualities in trump.
Look at his business successes in real estate, television, branding, and presidential win against all odds. All of these efforts required working with and directing thousands of people.
Ryan Rodriguez
>but i cannot grasp how they can be sure their results are not bullshit Well, that is sort of the problem with the humanities no? You still interpret your results, you cannot really proof them in the same way as math.
But yea I am going into territory I do not know enough about so I suggest you ask someone else.
