At what age did you grow out of conservative ideals, and realize that gays are people...

At what age did you grow out of conservative ideals, and realize that gays are people, premarital sex is healthy and normal, healthcare is a human right, and that taxes are a fair and just thing?

I was 14

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14 then I become conservative again when I was 20.

I grew out of the ideas in the OP becuase I realized I was brainwashed into thinking them as a kid.

I was never a conservative. My views were as long as they were not being shoved down my throat, let live & be your own success story.

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At what age did you grow out of being a cuck
>FTFY
>I was 19

Low quality 4/10

You sound 14 now.

>gays are people, premarital sex is healthy and normal
These are right.

>healthcare is a human right, and that taxes are a fair and just thing?
These are not right.

I lost my idealistic virtue signling self at 19 when i entered the real world and got a job. Since then it's conservative with a splash of liberalism. The left is comprised of people who kept going to school and became increasingly infantilised. They decry the system that feeds them but want it to strong arm the rich and corporations to give them more. They're retarded.

This... I went liberal. Then I paid taxes after I graduated college and was like, fuck this I'm conservative.

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How can you claim to be a patriot and care about this country, if you don't care that Americans may die because they can't get medical care?

>gays are people, premarital sex is healthy and normal, healthcare is a human right, and that taxes are a fair and just thing?
Nigga most of us believed in that shit when we were young.

Because you can be a patriot without coddling the populace.

Sounds like a real them problem

They can get medical care just fine. If they want the best medical care, they have to pay for it like anyone else.

When I cut my thumb, I can either go to the hospital and pay them $50,000 to stitch it up, or I can do it at home for $5. I'm really good at stitches.

lolbertarian detected

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Though avoiding premarital sex increases your odds of a successful lasting marriage. But that might be because of sticking with one mate before marrying moreso than the sex itself.

It's funny how you say that like it's an insult.

> Conservative
> Not national socialist
Taxes are fine if they are going to help people in ways that promote life, ie surviving and thriving
Accordingly, health care is one thing that I would hope any sufficiently wealthy nation/tribe would be able to afford subsidized health care
Gays are people, and the desire for premarital sex is natural, but we have to consider about what will help us to survive and thrive individually, as well as collectively/tribally.

Daily reminder 1 out every 2 Black Gays have HIV. Liberals worship the cult of gay and this fact

usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/02/23/cdc-black-gay-men-hiv-diagnosis-lifetime-at-risk/80812496/

Guys, sincerely, why are there suddenly so many shitposts on Sup Forums? I know shitposts are common now and then, but from every 4 threads there is guaranteed a shitpost thread with no real value.

>implying that it's a conservative ideal that gays aren't people
>pre-marital sex has at least some part to play in the downfall of the family, which is bad for society
>that said, preferring marriage and strong family values is a conservative ideal, but it's not like outlawing pre-marital sex is
>healthcare isn't a human right. you don't have a right to force someone else to provide you any kind of service.
>implying that it's a conservative ideal that taxes aren't fair and just
>taxes are fair and just when they are collected and put to use for legitimate government uses (e.g. the national defense)

How did you feel about Obama's tax cuts?

Or that ugly people have no other options

> what age did you take the blue pill

I didn't faggot

Gays are the worst kind of people

>suddenly
I don't even come to Sup Forums that often and I can tell that this is business as usual.

exactly the same here

If we gave the government 55 percent of our total income among all brackets than we would be able to save 100's of thousands of more lives theoretically. Why don't we do this? Because after a certain point people shouldn't have to pay for other people's shit. It hurts the free market and the government beaucracy makes ineffective use of it.

>Gay sex is healthy goys

>gays are people
True, but sodomy is a sin.
>premarital sex is healthy and normal
True, but no.
>healthcare is a human right
Wrong, you aren't entitled to the products of another person's labour
>that taxes are a fair and just thing
Wrong, taxation is theft, and mandatory taxation, at least the direct form, should be completely abolished.
>conservativism
The only form of conservative one should be, is a traditional conservative.

This is a greater failing of the American sex ed system. Do you think the majority of gays run around wanting to get AIDs and die in misery? Historically, if we had treated them like people to begin with, the culture would be entirely different by now.

Because: I have a dream!
That one day, every person in this nation will control their own destiny! A land of the truly free, dammit! A nation of action, not words -- ruled by strength, not committee! Where the law changes to suit the individual, not the other way around! Where power and justice are back where they belong, in the hands of the people! Where every man is free -- to think, to act -- for himself! Fuck all these limp-dick lawyers, and these chickenshit bureaucrats! Fuck this 24/7 internet spew of trivia and celebrity bullshit! Fuck American Pride -- fuck the media -- Fuck all of it! America is diseased -- rotten to the core... there's no saving it... We need to pull it out by the roots! Wipe the slate clean -- burn it down! And from the ashes a new America will be born! Evolved but untamed! The weak will be purged, and the strongest will thrive; free to live as they see fit! They'll make America great again!

When I moved out if my parents' house and had to make it on my own.

I am and have always been an Independent.

>and realize that gays are people,
That's a fact, not an opinion. The opinion is whether you accept/tolerate/condone/condemn/encourage what they do. I can accept it, but don't encourage it.
>premarital sex is healthy and normal,
Essentially yes, biology doesn't care much about marriage.
>healthcare is a human right,
Human right? No. However a nation it is in the best interest of any nation to make sure it's citizens remain healthy and to that end it's in the nation's best interest that healthcare is affordable (up to and including "free" universal healthcare if it can be implemented correctly).
>and that taxes are a fair and just thing?
Taxes are agreed compensation for living under the protection of a government. You can argue that specific taxes or rates are a problem but arguing against the concept of taxes is delusional unless you are also arguing for anarchy in which case you are retard.

oh yeah, just like niggers

Troof. Sickness spreads in cultures of secrecy and ignorance, such as that enforced upon persecuted peoples.

Educate them thoroughly and the problem goes away in a few generations.

Age 15, am now a libertarian at 18

>Nanomachines that harden in response to physical trauma will become real in Trump's term
This really is the best timeline

>traditional conservative
stop, your a city fuckboy that is merely virtue signaling on a Lithuanian surf rock forum

So you're a conservatarian then?

Healthcare a human right... What about the doctor that has to work on you retarded ass? Does he have rights too? Nothing that you have to force other people to do is a right. That is called looting. I should have a right to keep my money for my family, but I keep catching your grubby stupid regressive hands stealing food from my kids mouths through the government. I hope you die in a fire.

>Live in the most morally loose and permissible time
>We just need acceptance and our lifestyle would be just as stable and normal as the evil heteros
>Still a significant portion of the population having 1000+ partners
>Totally normal goys

carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity

you don't know what the Hippocratic oath is

>christian apologetics and research ministry
You aren't even trying, are you?

>city fuckboy

I don't know. I have some fairly far left IDEALS I just temper them with opposing viewpoints, critical thinking, and some cynicism (X is the best answer but it will never happen because Y,Z,etc).

I like the idea of technocracy and meritocracy but hate the idea of plutocracy and am very well aware of the pitfalls in direct democracy.

As an example I'd like for there to be true equality but I think the closest thing humanity has achieved to it is anonymity. Where does that fall on a political grid?

>When I cut my thumb, I can either go to the hospital and pay them $50,000 to stitch it up, or I can do it at home for $5. I'm really good at stitches.

I prefer super glue.

Also electrical tape is the best emergency band aid; it's also somewhat elastic though so be careful you don't make a tourniquet.

>government healthcare is far cheaper and simpler to admin

you cut out the (((private insurance middle men)))) and save a huge amount by using the government's bargaining power over drug pricing and fees to hospitals and doctors

fuck the US spends way more than any other country per capita and somehow excludes 10% of the population

shit like that should be impossible, i have no idea how you do it

Looked it up wew was I surprised. It just says "gibs"

If you have a respect for the limitations of humanity to achieve true equality (what Sowell calls cosmic justice) that's usually accompanied by an appreciation for small government and personal responsibility, which I would say puts you at conservative. Ideals are all well and good, but if you recognize that we generally don't have the information necessary to attain them, then they really shouldn't be a policy focus.

Reminder that there are people out there who take priding in spreading HIV/AIDS.

It's called a slide thread, it's meant to push relevant topics off the board.

Apparently you don't as it is not an aurgument to work a doctor like a slave. They are people too and twisting that oath to your selfish needs just shows how unbelievably corrupt and thoughtless you are.

So hat is h moment at which the communistic programming kicks in for a fuckin normie? Good to know.

Btw. kill yourself, you a already dead inside

Healthcare is NOT 'human right' you fucking bitch.

A statistic to add to your repertoire is that in the US 20-24% of healthcare costs go towards administration while in European countries that number is more like 6-10%

So, what you're asking is "At what age did I become retarded?"

Everyone gets police protection, police don't get to choose when they take the profession. Apply the same rules to doctors.

>what age id you grow out of conservative ideals?

Never, because conservative ideology is the most reasonable, logical way of life for most humans. I simply reinforces basic biological and psychological truths. Liberalism (the americuck meaning of the word) mostly tries to defy human nature and tries to promote things that go against human nature.

>gays are people
Most conservatives don't hate gays. In fact, there are many conservative gays that are pretty based. We only react when gays aggressively spread their propaganda in schools or try to destroy the family unit. If you fuck another guy in the ass in your own home then it should be no business of the state.

>healthcare is a human right
I actually agree with you on this. Healthcare should get decent funding and be free for all. Maybe it's not a typically conservative opinion, but there are many ways one can be a conservative. I see myself as a conservative in the ideological sense and centre-right when it comes to the economy. We should see things pragmatically and try to deal with issues and not just brainlessly use labels. The truth is that universal healthcare will work out cheaper overall and benefit and nation as a whole. You americunts would have to deal with your obesity epidemic though, because you are simply unhealthy as a nation. I'm surprised that nothing is being done about this. It honestly disgusts me.

as a straight white blonde hair blue eyed male, this terrifies me and is why I stopped going to clubs.

>small government
I like efficient government, that government might have a broad reach however. If I could ask one thing of Trump I'd like him to condense all the laws of the nation down to something succinct that might only be tens of pages long for example. The rules should be simple with broad applications, profound might be the best word to describe such rules.

>personal responsibility
That's a mixed bag simply because of how broad reaching the term is. Do you mean as far as pregnancy goes? I accept abortion as a lesser evil than incompetent/unwilling parents raising kids. Do you mean as far as working? I don't have sympathy for people who don't work but I cringe when people say the phrase 'want to work' as though there is something desirable about serving an employer. And so on.

>Ideals are all well and good, but if you recognize that we generally don't have the information necessary to attain them, then they really shouldn't be a policy focus.
I think you can inspire policy with ideals but you should shape it and implement it with a logical and realistic pessimism. We could have an ideal to have all students ace the SATs for example but it's realistic to acknowledge that will never happen when shaping the policy.

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