Is Trump, dare I say, causing moderates to become more liberal?

Is Trump, dare I say, causing moderates to become more liberal?

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no, the oppisite

This. People might not say it, but they are agreeing with him and they see how the left is eating itself with BS social justice stuff.

The insane antics of the left over the past 2 months is turning off the comparatively sane members of their party.

ive watched a childhood friend of mine who was all about gary johnson drop redpills over his trip to washington for inauguration day. it's the polar opposite. trump is making more and more people realize how fucking retarded libs are.

>causing moderates to become more liberal?

The election results seem to indicate just the opposite.

The people rioting are about 1% or less of the American electorate. Normal people don't look at that and say "you know, these are the type of people I want to be aligned with". They look at them and see children lashing out because they didn't get their way.

The opposite.

By the time re-election rolls around the next eligible set of adults will vote Trump back in. Liberals are going to lose their minds as they will become the dying forgotten faggots.

Yes those leftists smashing windows, trashcans, and random people are really drawing in the moderates.

anti-trumpers are causing it, including the media

These are all accurate. There is literally a kid I'm friends with on kikebook posting pictures of burning limousines and saying destruction of property is justified in order to bring about the end of capitalism shit and all of his (actually liberal) friends are telling him he's going insane. If his lib friends have this response, moderates are almost certainty scared away from leftist ideas entirely.

He's making the moderates realize that the Democrats no longer serve their interests

Yes.

It's making me question my political beliefs. I saw so many protesters on the train today and felt intimidated. These are educated people and the males all have girlfriends. Maybe they're right.

Sage

>causing moderates to become more liberal?
Retard. Look at the exit polling - the moderates are coming to us.

>Bleaches hair
tell tale of genetic failure

>be at bar last night
>known liberal crybaby starts whining and trying to get people to go march
>even people who are normally quiet tell her to shut the fuck up about it and stop crying

>I felt intimidated

Why? Your power level would BTFO all of them. You should have felt empowered that literally a couple words would send them into a massive REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

No but that girl is dare I say causeing my dick to get more harder if you catch my drift

Can we agree to stop the whole dare I say it shit. Its not funny

*opposite, you nigger

Fake bait

I am 21 and have a wide circle of friends and while we all pretty much think Trump is just another republican, we are all extremely tired of left wing rhetoric.

If anything we're more and more disenfranchised to the media as a whole.

Most moderates right now are hiding their actual beliefs because they don't want to be outted as Trump supporters. Other moderates are going right, I know this because it's happening to me.

lol fuck off libtard. if everyone else jumped off a bridge would you do it too?

>those qt feet

hngggg

No i was a lib once and slowly but surely as I've looked at what the left has become. No longer about doing right by working people, making sure working class people had good jobs to provide for thier families but about identity politics and handouts. posh middle class dickhead denigrating the working people as stupid and ignorant and that they need to be replaced by their favourite ethnic pets. The straw that broke the camels back was Brexit and the left reaction. The working man of yesteryear would have puked if they saw the left fawning for globalisation. Trumps victory ignited the flame of hope that Brexit kindled.
I think the west is gonna be ok guys, we have hard times ahead of us but i think were on the road to recovery.

its making certain moderates go right or left.

The corruption and collusion between the DNC, Obama/Hillary, and the media did quite a lot to poison the Democrats for me, but Obama's threat to the UK that they would "get in the back of the line" if they voted out really got under my skin.

Not that. It's that most people hold these views and I'm starting to think I'm wrong. I'm just sad. I wish it could be better.

No, the opposite is happening.

Liberals are driving moderate people to the right.

god i want to lick the paint off those toes

wanker

The internet is killing the political left, because it has finally allowed people to bypass the leftist media's bias.
Without the media constantly covering for the Democrats, they're done.

considering Trumps presidential approval rating is 56%?

I'd say, NO

>tfw we're winning the war

Not really. More like they just exclude Trumps, like the liberals are doing.

Not yet, probably eventually though.

Right now moderates are becoming more conservative, in large part because the left refuses to come to the middle on any issue.

Concern trolling: the post

Who is pic related?

Not really. I would say the opposite With the total breakdown of the left because of him, more people are becoming more conservative.

This, was full on atheist libcuck who didn't understand how people could hate.
Did reading, started seeing that (((the establishment))) aren't overtly oppressive like is portrayed in 1984 and authoritarian, but more subversive using woman and minorities as proxies for their ideology war and promoting demonisation of anyone who disagrees with 'progressive values'.

Now I like religion for instilling a good moral compass and family values, even if you can't prove all of the events in religious texts. I started working out and trying harder at uni because you have to be a service to your country and civilisation, and believe that while you should never judge a person based on anything but their character, certain cultures are more barbaric than others and should be kept separate (i.e BTFO globalisation, the middle east is a shithole for women's rights).

This kinda turned into an essay but I just wanted to say thank you Sup Forums, you saved my life.

One refrain I've heard from the left over and over is "How could ANYBODY VOTE TRUMP?"

If you can't understand why people voted Trump, it doesn't make you intelligent, it makes you ignorant, unempathetic, and stupid. If you don't understand why white people having their labor force participation rate plummet concerns them, how globalism seems to be driving up cost of living faster than wages concerns them, how the irrational and outright dishonest rhetoric of groups like BLM endorsed by the left concerns people, you aren't a superior thinker. You aren't enlightened above the right wing. You are just stupid.

People are utterly tired of the left wing dominating the conversation and seemingly oppressing people with even moderate conservative views. There have been several cases of teachers in Canada being fired or threatened with firing for holding moderate conservative political views.

We have Trump elected, who was a complete outsider to the political establishment winning, and people are saying it's justified to obstruct Trump because the Republicans obstructed the democrats. But before that happened, the democrats obstructed the republicans. Before that happened, the republicans obstructed the democrats again. If the Democratic and Republican establishment getting BTFO isn't going to make people stop being obstructionists, what is? They REFUSE to break the cycle, and glorify the dysfunction of the US government.

Nah, moderates aren't turning left wing yet. The pendulum is still swinging right. Once more rational, less extremist voices return to the left, and some of the excitement and optimism about Trump dies down, then we might see a shift to the left.

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Liberals are causing moderates to be more conservative.

This. Although we really have Soros to thank

>These are educated people and the males all have girlfriends.

Were these the guys you saw on the train?

>and the males all have girlfriends
>who make them eat their shit for money

FTFY

I'll be damned, a based Leaf.

Honestly, I just think politics are becoming The National Pasttime. Its like New Baseball.

Everyone discovered you could get famous by a particularly cutting tweet or Facebook post and wanted to join the fun. Then that brought people outside because they realized you could get more likes by actually taking part in protests.

People are all pretty moderate in the inside but love posing as pundits on the outside to keep up their street cred as 'rebels against the system' and to be fair, we do the same thing and its Trump Supporters vs. Moronically Evil Orcish Libs.

Few people are truly Agnostic anymore because you want to have that political side you can make friends and influence people.

he won election bro

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your friend is finally red-pilled on a leppo

exactly there is no such thing as the left anymore, just this disgusting hive mind creature that killed the left and assumed its form.

What happened to the working man just wanting a full time 5 day a week job that paid enough to start a family, being fairly recompensed for working overtime, having weekends to spend time with your family. Havving a community that knows and cares for their own.

But what ever beast has assumed control spit on this wholesome ideal. "Women are men, men are women, life is meaningless and you should live a meaning less life"

Comepletely the same here.

Liberals and Moderates who are siding with Trump are the true "alt-right". The media wants to vilify them without making it seem as if the left is in turmoil (it is).

This, but it's not trump himself per say
Trump causing lib chimpouts is creating a bigger gulf between left and right so to speak, the right has the moderate bit if the spectrum . Normies are being driven to right or middle, 90% of the military is being driven to the right. Ironicly the accepting and tolerant left has become MORE exclusionary and racist and come off as insane.
I almost feel bad for them, democrats don't give a damn themselves about equality, it and libs are just tools .

The political compass threads on Sup Forums usually show like a third of people tested are on the left of the political compass test.

That I think is pretty indicative that the moderate left is really really fucking fed up with the far left.

fox news was saying earlier that 56 is the lowest it's been for a long ass time

Learn to spell you fucking philistine

no, it's these self-proclaimed "antifascist" degenerates sensationalist left-tard media that's driving progressives to become more moderate and right.

t. socialist commie who voted for Trump

Of course you can't fucking spell.

>implying normiew know or care about social justice/anti-sjw bullshit

He won the rust belt because he was anti-TPP and she wasn't.

Here in leafland the BLMTO protests that got police removed from the Pride Parade and the Jordan Peterson debacle got a LOT of press.

I've seen the occasional story about various other problems with SJW issues like National Post running a story about Fraser Academy in Vancouver firing a teacher unjustly.

I would argue Canada has shifted to the right because a year ago you complained about SJWs and nobody knew what you were talking about. It was a hypothetical problem. Now you can actually give people multiple examples of their bullshit affecting people.

I'm not saying economics aren't a huge issue, usually pocketbook issues win elections, but I believe that anti-SJW sentiment rose a ton in 2016 because SJWs proved to the world that they were a problem.

>atheist libcuck
>Now I like religion for instilling a good moral compass and family values,
Same here
I'm too far gone to just be Christian again but I very much see the value of religion and moral family values without being pureflix

Jump off a bridge you impressionable maggot, if you think majority = truth you definitely deserve it

Christcucks pushing biblical literalism needed to be purged, but Jordan Peterson gave the best argument for an atheist to adopt religious values I have ever heard in my life.

Really made me think about if I was throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Politically neutral, but damn I hate the left now more than ever. #NeverHillary

The lying over Crimea and Syria by the Obama administration caused me to swing hard to the right.

Guess that's where "we" are considered the "alt right"

This

Kids fucking love Trump.

Even mock presidential elections in Minnesota high schools had Trump winning like 60-40.

This.

Even Gayve Rubin and Sargon of Cuckadd, both very left-leaning have been pushed hard towards the Right thanks to the open hostility of the modern Left

>polls are legit when they are in favor of my ideology!

>Is Trump, dare I say, causing moderates to become more liberal?

Nope. The opposite. They're making leftists alienate centrists.

The biggest boost to liberalism was Dubya.

Leftists are going further to the left but everyone else is becoming more conservative. The Democratic party is dead in the water.

What everyone else said.

Every damn post I've seen of these protests is of people aghast at these monkeys breaking shit because they lost, and proving once-and-for-all that liberals are just as shitty as the worst republicans.

Whatever change this might have caused is now pointless, since Trump was already sworn-in. All this violence does naught but make for memes and mores pepes.

The retardation of Bush was so strong I feel disgusted just thinking about him, just thinking about him makes me cringe, the fact he managed to get re-elected in favor of Kerry in '04 was inexplicable.

He went into Iraq because MUH JESUS said he should. Dude is one of the most culpable people for the current refugee crisis, he was in every way a bottom quartile president.

>One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."

>Mr Bush went on: "And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And, by God, I'm gonna do it."

theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa

There are a ton of cucks on youtube, majority of the former atheists online, that get sorted hard right by the SJW left. But of course they are massive liberals who support 90% of the lib agenda.

This is a good thing. The left is killing itself. They went so Stalinist with the quest for purity they exiled the majority of their supporters to the dissident area. And now those people are shifting more opinions than the slight disagreement.

How else are they going to rebel against their degenerate leftist parents? They are going full fascist.

Every dumbass SNL-esque show that no one cares about, and that's owned by google and nbc right now have a video like
"Trump's president, what now? (I KILL MYSELF)"

Thank god they're dying off

Something that's getting REALLY fucking old is the constant Trump-bashing. It's only been day 1 and the media is just hungry for his dick every minute. That colbert show has a new LOL DRUMPF video every single day to the point where I wonder if even hardcore liberals are getting bored of it.