Real talk, how deep are the political divisions in the US?

Real talk, how deep are the political divisions in the US?

I see a lot of hatred and partisanship on the internet but how are things on the ground?

Is there any chance for healing between the two sides? Is there a real risk of violence/civil war?

it's not that bad

Leftists have spent the last 3 months rioting and kidnapping and torturing people with different political views. What do you think?

It depends on what state and city you're in.
I'm in Lafayette Louisiana and I see at lest 2 people with MAGA hats here every day.

I'm sure it is like everywhere else, that no one really talks about politics with friends/family/coworkers unless they are certain that they share similar views.

Really? Because I casually go on Twitter and check out the new @POTUS and I'm immediately struck by the vicious hatred spewed at the account.

This btw is from a comedian at comedy central. Even in my cucked country saying shit like this would get you ostracized and fired from your job.

I live in DC and everyone here is a huge liberal pussy. They are zero threat.

It is only bad when group think / mob mentality is in effect.

Otherwise, individual people with different political opinions run into each other everyday and nearly everyone agrees that fundamentally they all want the same thing, but just have misunderstandings about how to achieve them.

We are just building up and moving the chess pieces before the next civil war begins.

It is nothing personal, just something Americans do every once in a while to establish dominance.

This time the Union will invade California and New York when they declare themselves sanctuary states.

I anticipate having to club my faggot anti-fa brother's head in within the next year in a street fight.

No war would happen. One side has all the guns.

Pro-tip: it is us.

If theu even try they will not only face 300 million gun owners but the tanks and drones that they tried to use as an argument to take those 300 million guns.

March to the Pacific this time?

It's socially unacceptable to be right wing right now because the media, including all social media, is owned by the left. If you admit to voting for Trump you can and will be ostracized. I voted for Trump and I've had to say I voted Johnson or I risk losing my job or my girlfriend.

I have friends and family who are Trump supporters. We don't always talk politics, but we agree on a lot of things and we are always nice. I have only met one person who was a screaming lunatic about politics, and I stopped associating with that person.

Honestly, average people are not as divided as it seems. They've just been put into difficult positions and everyone has something they are fighting to defend.

War won't happen because the left are a bunch of bleeding vaginas.
You're just a cowardly cuck tbqh.

Yea, seeing the morons endorse unprovoked political violence just encourages me to train harder.

>I voted for Trump and I've had to say I voted Johnson or I risk losing my job or my girlfriend.

Scary that you cant be truthful with the one person that should know your most intimate feelings and thoughts.

I know everything that happens in America is soon mirrored in Sweden and I'm not looking forward to such a poisonous environment.

i dont get what she means
she found a murder of a little girl heartwarming?

Fucking sucks over here, user. Sweden may be a cuck shithole going down in Mohammed flames, but over here, I've given up posting on SpergBook because my so-called friends are mostly left-wing nutters. Really sucks.

My woman likes Trump and nigger jokes so, no problems.

Hail victory.

In my belief, the divisions amongst most Americans is insignificant. Most Americans identify as moderate after all.

Between those who are politically involved, things are way different. The divisions are so great, they in effect create their own cultures, with their own values and accepted behaviors. They have totally different perceptions of reality that is beyond reconciliation. There is no healing possible, because if you suggest a problem to resolve, one side will see things totally in one way, while the other side will believe in almost the total opposite. You can see this broken bridge in our congress, except the congress does this sort of bickering for political reasons. The Politically involved people do it because they think they are right to do so.

It is these people who would start a civil war, while the moderates would flee the country in such an event

Stop being a faggot- Trump won with white women, that means for each scum sucking liberal whore you have a woman who isn't fucking insane.
YOU need to dump HER.

People on Sup Forums wish this shit were true with all their hearts.

In reality, class, and not political divisions are the real fault lines and sources of suffering.

>mirrored in Sweden
kek

Not class, but rather the rural vs urban divide, but you get points for being close.

> War won't happen because the left are a bunch of bleeding vaginas.

They talk big though, talk about murdering trump voters, threaten violence, say the kind of stuff they cant walk back from.

According to a statistic molymeme quoted race relations are more than twice as bad as they were before long nigger

Media owned by left

Fox News and Breitbart and a thousand shit rag tabloids have been two of the most prominent news sources for huge swaths of the population for years..

The divisions are so deep that I can't even talk about politics to most people, especially from other generations. Most millennials are socialist or alt-right and older generations don't even know what either of those groups believe... They still think it's good ol' conservatives vs liberals.

>It depends on what state and city you're in.
Excellent point. I'm stuck in shithole blue state Maryland. This is Cuck Land up here.

It worked for teabags and cucks eight years ago

honestly, america isnt as segregated as you think. you are probably thinking that because you live by the ocean like florida or nyc or CA. yes they're highly populated but a majority of the states that aren't by the waters have voted republican.

also idk if this is true or not, but i strongly believe that there are more people in the middle of america than in the cities.

People are throwing a hissy fit. Trump won. They lost. They don't understand what losing is like because the entire MSM/Establishment told them everything is gonna be ok.

The internet is propaganda now.
no one is smart enough to talk politics outside the internet without it just being regurgitated propaganda

well im a college kid and lost almost all of my friends because they were all in the stupid womens march today. it is a mutual disrepect on both sides

You sound like a queer tho

There will be no peace until the media is destroyed.

They don't understand and can't deal with losing because they were raised with participation awards.

Kinda like the things we say on here

>average people are not as divided as it seems.
Get on MyFaceBook and see the insanity there. I haven't posted to my account since the election. Liberals are going absolutely apeshit.

Tbh I did dump her but about a month ago that was true so I just typed it now for emphasis.

OP isn't a burger, and people live way more segregated in the interior than they do in large coastal cities

Depends on the social group. My friends don't care that I voted trump. Even though they voted Clinton or hated Trump. But my mom says her friends are all crazy anti-trump and she is scared to even take a neutral stand.

>america isnt as segregated as you think.
This is bullshit. Have you never been to a medium- or large-size city in your life? I live near both DC and Baltimore, and as a white person you DO NOT go into certain neighborhoods. We've had "no go" zones here in the US for 50 fucking years.

I am so thankful for where I work. In a warehouse with rugged men doing construction and moving parts with cranes. Very little political correctness.

95% conservative Trump voters with one exception among the white workers, but almost all the blacks HATE Trump and continue to call him racist.

I am a manager so I try and have rational discourse with the blacks, only one is smart enough to understand and voted for Trump (but he is ex military like I am) and speaks fluent English instead of Ebonics.

The rest are so unintelligent it is damn near impossible to discuss politics.

They chimp out IMMEDIATELY and their temper gets so high that the ability to communicate and discuss things logically escapes them.

I try to give them evidence, data and facts, but they don't seem to understand what I am showing them and just talk about something else like the "XFL". Their minds are ingrained in sports, sex with multiple women, having multiple children with different women and not fostering the offspring nor paying for them, talking on the phone, texting on the phone and listening to young little g thug.

The one white guy called Trump a Nazi, but I had to explain to him that Nazi stands for National Socialist, and Trump is a capitalist and not a socialist, but he did not care and just continued to call him a Nazi.

I know a couple people who are hardcore leftists and have stopped being friends with people who voted for Trump. I was discussing the riots in DC with one of them and he was saying that he wish he'd been there to help destroy shit. He always talks about how racist white people are, and has said that white people suck (even though he's white). I've brought up the point that blacks can be racist too, but he just got really angry and said blacks only don't like white people because we're all racists. It seems like about half of liberals hold these opinions. They're mostly young and have no knowledge of how the world really works.

OP don't listen to any of these dumb cunts telling you its not that bad

However bad you think it is, its fucking worse

There is no healing between these two sides. They have literally been squabbling since BEFORE THEIR DUMB COUNTRY WAS COLONIZED. Puritans and cavaliers just dont mix and its frankly a fucking miracle theyve stuck it out this long

The only question is: are they going to keep be sated by elections every 4 years, or are they going to fully chimp out on one another at last?

My moneys on a chimp out.

It isn't true.

I live in seattle, OP, and let me tell you, I think the divide is pretty large. I go to a hippy dippy commie liberal school and these shits all have the same opinions. They're all empathic sweethearts until you have different opinions. Once you do, you're human garbage. You have no moral worth. You are an object to be acted upon.

When you're faced with that sort of mentality, no reconciliation is ever possible.

I think civil war and violence is definitely possible, but we don't have many cities where the left and the right are in close enough proximity to duke it out. Cucks and antifa stay in their coastal cities, where the funds from the port can float their shitty policies which never work, and the americans live in the country, working to feed the cucks.

>You sound like a queer tho
That's not what your mom told me last night when my balls were in her throat and I was splooging thick, milky ropes of my gooey cum down her slick windpipe.

But, then, again, she may have said that. I dunno. I couldn't hear her. My balls were in her throat. Like I just said.

Trump should just starve the coastal liberal hive cities of federal funding and let the commies go feral. Without the State to coddle them, they fall apart.

when will the class meme end?

>My moneys on a chimp out.
And when we do we'll take Canada like we should've done 200 years ago.

It's the crazy anti-trump people that I'm most scared of honestly. The people who can link any sort of conversation into fear mongering or saying how bad things are.

They are the ones that make the more moderate liberals worried about the future, or the moderate right afraid to state their opinion.

As long as extremists like that exist healing is going to be pretty hard.
Also, on a side note, am I just desensitized to radical right people or do they just don't feel as threatening or just don't do as much as the radical left?

I hope we do.

Our ideologies are mutually exclusive. I believe in free speech, personal liberty, accountability, run rights, and so on. They believe in feeling-centric authoritarianism. Free speech is a fucking MEME to them. They are a poison to democracy, and a threat to the republic.

The only way we can reconcile our beliefs is through violence. It's just a question of who will reach for the gun first.

You absolutely fucking should have

Fuck Canada

pls no rake me

I live in Las Vegas. Blue degenerate shithole. I've been a salesman for a little over 3 years now and so I talk to people from everywhere and I feel like a really get a feel for the 'pulse' of america by just shooting shit with random people.

I've noticed that those that do have an opinion are generally just spouting the same bullshit they've heard MSM cram down their throats for weeks. Most of them are usually not overtly antagonistic towards trump and if they are, they usually simmer down after I lightheartedly play devil's advocate.

I've literally met only one person that reviles trump with the burning hatred you see on twitter. He is a fat, champagne liberal that will talk endlessly about how the migrant "crisis" is just a racist crusade against brown people who need our help. He has to spark up conversation with every irish couple he meets and explain how much he adores his rich Irish heritage because his father was from Dublin. He is the absolute most ridiculous leftist I've ever met and is almost comical how much he mirrors the negative stereotypes you see posted about them on Sup Forums.

But other than that, most people that I work with or meet usually think that Trump might be a good choice for president and are excited to see what happens. At the very least they keep an open mind.

I pray to kek that california secedes. I hope Trump lets it go. Fuck that shit hole.

I won't rake you senpai.

With pleasure. After we take you we'll annex off any shitty parts you like, like we'll do with CA and NY. Just wall it off. Then we can all be happy with our Canadian beer and burgers.

People who are happy will be happy and people who are mad will be just so.

When two converse on politics be prepared for a show.

The left uninformed

The right misguided

The common theme is both are divided

Factually, we are all slaves. Some slaves are smart and some are basically retarded. Some were effected by social indoctrination and other embraced individual learning

Yes

When the young girl was murdered, she felt happy because she was thought to be a trump supporter when really she wasn't in any political sides.

Oh yeah class. That's why the niggers kid napped a white person and said fuck white people and fuck Donald trump

Entirely dependent on where you are. Different regions have very different cultures and communities. I'm in a hot spot of tension, between central and southern New Jersey in the suburbs. Combination of dindus, white liberals, working class conservatives, and some lower upper class conservatives. Where I go to Community College is heavily liberal, but there are a fair amount of conservatives, mainly closeted, so there's an air of tension. I've seen one guy wear a Trump hat, gave him a cigarette, cause we were in the smoke area outside the college

Yeah I had to delete normie book again for my own sanity

Why not divorce?

Life is not good for most of the US. I can't even reveal my opinions without being attacked. I live in Alafuckingbama in a very conservative area. Most everyone here hates Trump and wants him to die to make Pence president.

Most every conservative I know just wants the same old same old, more war, less taxes.

The left is extremely angry, but not really a threat. They're basically tantruming babies at this point.

Maybe that's true in some social circles, or maybe even most in a major US city, but there are still a lot of people who support Trump-- they just don't go nuts and make a big show out of everything like libs do.

> But other than that, most people that I work with or meet usually think that Trump might be a good choice for president and are excited to see what happens. At the very least they keep an open mind.

That's good to hear.

No legal framework for it. Keeping the south in the US was better for the both of us, but it set a shitty precedent.

I would settle for secession. Two routes are

>states break off
or
>Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and New York are declared city states

I like manifest destiny, so I prefer the second solution.

After the fact we should construct walls, and require visas for them to travel into US soil. Rather than deporting them, if found, we should just shoot them. It would save everyone a lot of trouble. (But that's just my subjective opinion)

Don't listen to this guy.

It's an existential divide OP. Not just politics.

I think that it's going to be violent. Not even Islamic terrorism could unite us imo. I think its a good thing in the big picture, if it happens. But only because I'm almost positive of what the outcome would be.

Almost all of the noise is coming from a very loud group of people. Well less than 1% of the population, but their insanity is amplified by 100% of the jews.

The division of these people vs the rest of functioning society is crippling, but it's nothing six million people put into a gas chamber couldn't fix.

You have to remember this country is fucking huge. I recently drove from Rhode Island down to North Carolina (roughly the length of Japan) and attitudes are starkly different depending on where you are. Up north, it's Hillary signs everywhere with the occasional defiant Trump bumpersticker. Go down into a rural area however and I saw at least a dozen "HILLARY FOR PRISON 2016" banners along a major interstate. People are divided, but it's mostly based on geography.

>Not even Islamic terrorism could unite us
>Always used to joke about how the world would only come together if an extraterrestrial race came and invaded Earth
>These days it would unite most of Earth, but there would be that small group saying we need to let them probe our anuses or else we're just creating new invaders

That is a depressing thought.

What you are seeing presently is like 5% of the left at most. Which is like ~.5% of the US population.

I wouldnt worry about it.

I live in Cincinnati and it's actually not too bad here. Even the liberals don't really march for shit here and if they do its small and not really newsworthy. Everybody at my work voted trump except 1 girl and she called off inauguration day. I played star spangled banner over the pa when Trump was getting sworn in and customers did really care because we have low prices. If shit did break out I'd probably have to drive up to Columbus if I wanted to partake in the festivities

Don't worry trump has anime power on his side we cant be stopped by any antifa gang

The Radical Left seems far more willing to commit violent acts and far less likely to listen to others. They have convinced themselves that they are enlightened demigods marching along the path of progress and could not ever do wrong even if they tried and that all their beliefs will be supported and vindicated soon enough.

He that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow, user.

I have an absurdly libtard family that would crucify me if they knew I voted Trump. Ironically, conservative families are more tolerant of liberal children than vice versa.

Why are liberals so apeshit?

Like, obviously they don''t like Trump because he's a Republican but, has social justice culture really spread this much in the past decade? It's insane. They actually think he's a fascist.

>rural and suburban retards vs urban people
FTFY

>Real talk, how deep are the political divisions in the US?
i want all of these people to suffer and die, and not reproduce.

It has. And it will keep coming back until it's purged from its source - academia.

It flared up in the 80's and 90's, then it went away for a bit. But those fucks got jobs as professors, teachers, school workers. The list goes on.

We have 3 generations of cucks, with 1 that have yet to get in positions of power (millenials). Generation Z will have a heavy burden to bear.

Sorry, most of euphorically enlightened city people in STEM fields lean conservative, because intelligent people aren't children easily swayed by emotions.

>leaf

Its just a meme I'm sorry

Redpill millenials can unfuck this situation a good deal by using the self improvement meme, using this breathing room of the Trumpening to create and produce material wealth and challenge the rule of the boomers.

Right wing shitlords are needed more than ever, lads. We must not give in to fear, accept what we cannot change and embrace what struggle we can.

Back during the Bush era there were plenty of lefty cucks who hated him, but there was still the general feel that you had to respect the President and that you owed him your allegiance. I see none of the same patriotism from moderates or leftists today.

It's divided. It always has been. Racially Onigger made it worse because that's what they taught him at Harvard. The only way to unite is to direct all animosity to a common enemy. (((who))) could that be?

party ideologies here are superficially secularized flavors of totalitarian political Christianity. the Democrats favoring Pentecostalism, the GOP of a more Baptist persuasion.
iow, it's the Troubles on repeat

I forgive you user. But only this once. :3

Kek wills it.

Not really. We are at a dynamic moment in history at which the conservative party is taking control over the countries and lefties are in their death grasp. It's just the swinging of a dying tyrant.

Thank you Senpai

The major gap is caused by class warfare. All first world nations with large scale female workforce participation follow the following trend:

Females neve produce enough to overcome what the government spends on them. The average woman will never be under $50,000 in debt to the government at any point in her lifetime.

By comparison the average man winds up producing so much value compared to what the government spends on him that it takes a decade or more of retirement/ old age before he becomes a negative asset around the age of 80.

Women flood the job market giving employers abundance mentality.

an overabundance of workers means they can afford to just lay off people they don't like. And they don't have to compete for talant. Even the shittiest mcdonalds job has people competing for it. automation just lowers the size of the job market even more.

It's not going to get better. One size does not fit all, and that's especially true for people as blatantly different as the people of different races. People have never lived like this historically; countries have always been necessary, even for people of the same race living side by side in the same region.

The reason this shit flies right now is because everyone is fat and comfy and placated. If there were shortages of important resources or some insane and intractable political contrast between regions of the US like before the Civil War, then things would start changing quick. As it stands now, though, we're only playing the social tug of war that multiracial society necessitates. Whites may lose the majority and this decadent country will slowly Brazilify, or push may come to shove.

In either case, it will be because the multicult is unnatural. The in-group bias is natural. Marrying within your own race is natural. Self-segregation is natural. Demonizing people who are different from you is natural, and when people are scared or angry or hungry, they will resort to their instincts and their peers and nature's design will reign. Large-scale conflict and change characterize us and our history. It's not a question of if, it's a question of when.

Its as bad as it seems. I wouldn't dare walk around California or somewhere similar with a MAGA hat without a gun or something. There is a very real possibility you'd get attacked.

Basically the government is redistributing wealth that you would normally retain to secure a wife if you chose to.

And they redistribute it to women who are effectively making it harder for everyone to get jobs and harder to negotiate pay. Because some other dumb fuck whos unemployed will do your job for less.


This is done to stop you from climbing the hierarchy. The top % is growing increasingly seperated from the rest of society.

Pretty bad actually. Try being not white in a locale that trump won (Staten island here) they actually treat you like shit for doing nothing.

Give him some oats instead

And these women get that money without giving anything back. The governments have turned women into leeches that think they don't need men

even though the same men the reject in modern society are the ones fueling their lifestyle. Except now you don't have a choice. You are married no matter what you want. Except you don't get any pussy for your efforts. And you don't get to opt out of it unless you like the idea of a plane ticket to sandniggerstan.

can i please get a source for this dank maymay?