Isn't it a good thing that liberals now distrust the government?

Isn't it a good thing that liberals now distrust the government?

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no because the government is now conservative
they need to fall in line and stop being whiny bitches, its what the founding fathers would have wanted.

liberals don't learn lessons, they'll go right back to begging for more government cock as soon as their guy is back in

Anything that happens will be a result of it not being "their" government.

Kinda like how socialists will say "real" socialism hasn't happened in any country and that's why all the socialist countries collapse.

The left will take credit for anything good and blame the right for anything bad. Itd be like this regardless of which party is in power.

Welcome to the future. The year is 1984.

The founding fathers were absolutely against falling in line with just about everything.

They don't trust right wing governments. They gape their anuses for left wing governments. These people are incapable of consistency.

Not entirely. The Federalists were pretty cucked, and they were the starting point for the monstrosity that you have today. The anti-Federalists were the ones who kept to the founding principles.

I don't see how that's relevant to my reply. The dude said the "founding fathers" would of wanted them to fall in line. That's something the founding fathers only ever did under existential threat from Britain.

look i used to think liberals were great and were fighting against evil and corruption back during the bush years. Then as soon as they got obama in they dropped all protests and any questions into what the government was doing. Turns out they dont care if the government kills or fuck them over they just dont want to have a white male in charge.

Fuck liberals and fuck the left.

The fucking irony is astounding. Are right wingers genuinely this retarded or is the meme too hard?

What has the government been doing that it hasn't been doing for a majority of it's existence?

yup

Conservatives will do the same thing now.

Original 2007 Anonymous ethos is the best ethos. Distrust of government, free information, unbridled free speech.

life, liberty, and property

They always distrust the government. Even when there's a liberal government they still blame the right wingers for everything and fight against the status quo.

They need to feel like their ideology is validated. That's why they protest, not because they truly believe in anything.

Right wing rule of the government only makes the left more militant. Remember, these people still blame Bush for everything. They are literal children when it comes to politics and they won't stop. We just need to ignore their opposition and hope the Republicans don't bend their knee to them

>distrust the government

they hate republicans, the would be happy to lick the boots of any democrat in office

>leaf

No because they aren't opposed to the government they're opposed to less gibsmedat film whitey. They live the government when it oppresses their opposition.

>Even when there's a liberal government they still blame the right wingers for everything and fight against the status quo.

Victim carding too hard.

>How dare these liberals subjugate us for not conforming to our status quo, and then blame us when we impede any sort of social, academic and domestic progression! Damn those libtards and their aborted fetuses and trans bathrooms!

It's true though. Haven't you seen any of the BLM protests in the past couple of years nigger? They protest literally anything. Except they don't protest the democrats that run the horrible cities where black people kill each other for sport, they protest "white privilege."

>Damn those libtards and their aborted fetuses and trans bathrooms!

Yeah killing babies and trying to construct new bathrooms so freaks can play pretend with their new genders is progress isn't it?

Fuck off you lefty/pol/ faggot. Go protest with a bunch of fat women who are obsessed with their vaginas.

Yeah, it's wierd seeing that lad Luke Rudowski from we are change being a right winger even tho he was one of those occupy wallstreet protesters and anti-Bush, i think most of those people who have seen what has happened since then have converted to the right.I think it's just a matter of blue pill v red pill, some people take it, others stay ignorant. I seen a pic about obama, saying "what the left thought they were getting(pic of Ghandi) what the right thought(pic of Che Guevara) what they really got(Bush 2.0)". The left and right should find equal footing and both could become more centrists instead of the polar opposites that divide the country. These idiots that are protesting Trump are just morons who's political opinions are centered around abortion and gays, low level stuff yet they think they're important lol, try have a conversation about geopolitics or neo-liberalism and it's like hitting a brick wall.

BLM is the result of SJW and the self-seclusion of the African American community. They are literally victim carders such as yourself.

Anyway that's not the point you fucking retard, in fact it's irrelevant. The point is that you mongoloids are no different. In fact, your ideas are more destructive which is clearly demonstrated in the ending statements.

Keep crying retard and enjoy that spiteful cup of Trump's presidency while you can.

Sounds like you're the one crying mate. Trump just got inaugurated. I WON. I have nothing to be disappointed about right now.

> In fact, your ideas are more destructive which is clearly demonstrated in the ending statements

Kek you sound like such a fucking nu-male pussy. You got BTFO just deal with it and go back to jacking off to the Harry Potter movies.

Top kek. Nothing meaningful as expected from fucktard man child.

Do the species a favor and trim your bas off, retard.

Kinda proving his point there son.

Do some growing.

God damn it.
A*
Balls*

Y-you get the point.

I don't need to say anything meaningful to a nigger lover who is clearly just assmad that he lost. Everyone of your posts is the same thing I see from all those faggot protesters out there. Anger and fear over nothing expect the fact that they fucking lost and something didn't go their way.

What? His really articulate and coherent point of "you guys are just mean."

except* the fact

You know you're talking to a fucktard when they don't have the self-awareness to realize their word salad is the format crying feminists use.

As they say,
>TRIGGERED

they distrust anything white related, which is why we must sign this petition for max keks and have niggers chimp out for one last time before Daddy Trump deports them all from the world

change.org/p/donald-trump-declare-january-20th-as-trump-day-or-change-mlk-day-to-djt-day

Liberals LOVE the government.

They love it so much they want Trump dead and their xer overlords in charge.

They trust government as long as they are promised "free" things. Such fools.

Dude you're the one coming on Sup Forums to say that our beliefs are so destructive. Not sure how I'm the triggered one here.

They distrust Trump's administration, not the government. They crave nothing more than the government establishment right now. Just look how quick there are to suck down everything even alleged to have been said by the "intelligence community" at their word. You can't say someone distrusts the government while they're out preaching CIA propaganda in the streets.

Letting the echo-chamber out for a run, eh? I just love the delicious gross misrepresentation and inability to confront your own mentality that's ruining the country along with the other tit suckers.

>I'm not sure how I'm triggered
>Two full posts of constant attacks

Amazing.

Ok, I'll hear your argument out. What you are trying to say is that we are just as bad as the liberals. Care to explain why? You keep saying it over and over again but you're not actually substantiating your point at all.

>this one triggered user spouting insults and running his mouth like a retard
>tfw this is the current state of Sup Forums
Jesus is this country fucked. I hope all those fags around the world are happy that trump is not their president.

Trump isn't like Cruz or Ryan or McCain or McConnell, he had the entire establishment against him.

Tell me what republican politician had so many elites against him/her before the election of 2016 because Trump had them all against him and that's just more proof that he isn't a globalist shill.

Liberals have always distrusted the government.

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>Kinda like how socialists will say "real" socialism hasn't happened in any country and that's why all the socialist countries collapse.

This is arguably very true though.

It really pisses them off to find out these protests were planned back in 2016 and needed permits. They were denied for the 20th cause of the inauguration. That's why they're out there today.

nps.gov/aboutus/foia/upload/NAMA_InaugurationPermitRequests_01-12-17.pdf

You want to know why? Do you even know what board you're on?

>Toxic group mentality
>No nuance whatsoever around issues
>Incredibly regressive, close-minded and no thought given towards dissenting opinions
>Forming circle jerks

I can list all day but it's 12:50 AM. Just work with what I gave.

Not exactly substantian but more of my reasons. I'm tired OK.

>no thought given towards dissenting opinions

I just gave thought to your opinion by telling you I would hear you out. Too bad half the shit you just labeled off is completely subjective and stupid nitpicks.

>Forming circle jerks
Sup Forums is objectively better than places like Reddit where if you disagree or dissent from the liberal hiveming you get downvoted into oblivion and the mods take you off. Anywhere you go to discuss something on the internet you are going to get a majority opinion that is dominant dude. Same thing happens in universities too. At least on Sup Forums your ideas will always get exposure because they won't be deleted by mods because you disagreed, and the users can't hide them by a system of downvoting or anything.

As you can see here, I decided to engage in real discourse with you and hear you out despite our previous disagreements. Too bad you just labeled off a bunch of stupid nigger bullshit

The vast majority of pol posters are just as stupid as the majority of retarded left wingers, equally narcissistic, deluded, and sheepish. When you have these qualities you don't realise it. The fact is, polsters have the audacity to believe, without philosophical, political or the high reaches of tertiary training, that their opinions are somehow valuable and have the possibility of being a correct diagnostic/prescription of an infinitely complex moral, social, historical and political landscape.

In reality, they are just monkeys, believing their poorly reasoned opinions are worth spouting, like monkeys flinging their shit. Just like the majority of leftists, if not worse.

Politics, morality and culture should be left to the educated elite, those who excel either in academic philosophy/politics/economics or through sheer ability find themselves in positions of control and/or power/influence. Plato was right. The best thing the alt-right could do is dismantle democracy so the plebs of society (including the alt-right) would no longer have any sway in statecraft.

Having the strong opinions that pol users often have is a sign of narcissism (much like Trump's own, actually), or reactive emotional reasoning, believing your position to be right despite having a limited knowledge gleaned only from the news, social circles, and sources (and other morons) on the internet.

They'll still want their gibs

Correction: the government is now Republican. Neither Republicans nor Trump are conservatives.

Good point, so why do they keep oppressing other people for not falling in line with them?

Their "Women's March" was marketed as a woman's support march, but the media is saying it's almost entirely Anti-Trump because he's a bigot etc.

Where's BLM in all this? I thought they cared about Women/Human rights... At least we know the rioters that attacked the police and set a limo on fire weren't black, haha RIGHT? XDD

Liberals distrust THIS government.

They lack a general philosophical distrust of government in general and do not question the collection of power in the hands of few.

They will never be your ally in this fight OP.

I think so. Skepticism is important in a democracy. They blindly followed King Nigger and let him get away with too much.

This horse shit today just makes them look dangerous and foolish. But criticism is good

>Sup Forums is objectively better than places like Reddit where if you disagree or dissent from the liberal hivemind you get downvoted into oblivion and the mods take you off
And despite this and the fact that socialist/communist threads pop up daily, the leftypol cucks still insist this is some sort of conservative safespace? I'd call that laughable, if it wasn't so vapidly wrong. Just like the liberals to claim something is HORRIBLE when it's just slightly irritating. They bitch about everything, claim to side with science and facts, and swear everyone is retarded and lost but them. Then they wonder why no one takes them seriously.

Woah, look at me. I better chill or they might want me to join them on the front lines!

They don't need to distrust the government, they need to distrust the media and the people that own everything.

I unironically like that US liberals went from "lol you stupid gun owners think the president is gonna put you in a fema camp? whats your AR going to do against a drone strike retard?" to "OH MY GOD THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO GENOCIDE ME FOR BEING GAY WE NEED TO BUY GUNS AND FORM A MILITIA!" since it's, well, funny, but also because they'll learn how actually empowering and philosophically important gun ownership is

They only distrust when it goes against their (((narrative))).

>"...I just gave-"
Stop right there
You don't represent the majority of Sup Forums, in addition I wasn't specifically talking about you which I thought was clearly implied.

>Half the shit I said was completely subjective
No counter argument in that observation.
You're gonna tell me that Sup Forums is not the pinnacle of redpill alt-right years constantly spouting shit about other dissenting opinions and patting themselves on the back afterwards? You don't even consider how I came this conclusion when the evidence is face front.

>"Sup Forums is objectively better reddit"
Vote system wise, yes. User wise, no. Sup Forums does it in the form of constant barrading and opinionation that is promoted through the hive mind in this board. Majority opinion often leads to echo-chambers, which is my entire point. And as you know, Sup Forums is a open board which is a clear distinction between majority opinion in closed forums.

Yeah yeah, whatever man. Night.

None of what you said is untrue. But honestly all of politics is opinion. Politics by definition is about the debate on how people should govern society. Of course you are going to get impassioned individuals with very different opinions on how to rule our lives and civilizations.

>Politics, morality and culture should be left to the educated elite

It already has been that way for a very long time. Most of our elected officials in our society are people with some of the highest degrees in education, or they're really rich, or otherwise extremely successful in their respective fields. That's why we elect them.

Whether you see these people as being narcissistic, stupid, or ill-informed, they still have the right to political opinions. And honestly if society left all political think and discourse up to aristocrats then everywhere would be like Central Asia where people are completely controlled by dictators who don't allow any sort of free speech.

So like I said, I agree with what you are asserting about the users of Sup Forums, but honestly everywhere you can discuss politics it's the same. You just need to choose your bias and respect that this is how politics is intrinsically. Sup Forums is not unique in that regard

>Stop right there
>Interjecting before reading what he has to say
You're a faggot. I stopped reading because of this. Now go cry about how your opinion wasn't heard, fascist.

My grammar gave my cancer. Fucking phone.

You do realize this isn't a real conversation, right you retard? I fucking followed up I just wanted to section that specific part.

Exactly. The lefty/pol/ retards are just mad that their ideology and opinions aren't the dominant ones here.

>Retard
How PC of you.

You think I give a shit? I bet your memes are from 2011.

I personally enjoy listening to them, until they get booty blasted. Then they just get obnoxious and autistic.

No.

They don't see the problem as "government"
They see it as "it's not *my* government".

>I bet your memes are from 2011

Now hold on, cunt. You don't know me.

All I really have to say here is that this is the same way all places on the internet are with discussion. I just think Sup Forums is better because at least you get the chance to equally represent your own arguments. They won't be deleted unless they break the really lenient rules and most of the time they are genuine fuckers who actually want to have a good discussion. Like I said of course the dominant opinion will always be the loudest.

Anyways, to end it, no one's forcing your hand here, man. If you hate Sup Forums so much you can just leave...

You're not being forced to stay here

That's true. If Sup Forums wasn't so toxic it would be more exciting to post my opinion but sadly I do not fit in this red board.

I come here mostly to lurk on other peoples opinions. I like a good mix you know. But anyway, night man. Just try to be more open-minded.

this

napolitano here is speaking truth tho

That's the reason they got anything better than what they chose. This elections saw a strong difference in economical policies which everyone seemed to not give a fuck about.
A model like the one that trump is trying to get moving actually improves overall life quality of the working people and actually makes them not feel so abandoned and left to rot while some spicy takes their job for half the pay
One could just spend hours discussing this matters in mass media, hours that the people should've claimed for instead of being fed up daily with so many petty fucking news

Goodnight user. Good discussion. Started out rough but ended smoothly

Lol I can't keep myself away from the phone.

One last thing, you're forgetting one important distinction between Sup Forums and other discussion boards.

It's an alt-right PIC, redpill badmouthing board and that's what it's known for. The only thing good about it is the open discussion but that isn't unique.

Gnight... hopefully.