Why are guns not so important for europeans as for americans? Why is Europe so cucked?

Why are guns not so important for europeans as for americans? Why is Europe so cucked?

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All their warrior genes were culled during the two world wars.

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this is actually kind of depressing

Costa Rica, who the fuck cares about your opinion? I thought you were a theme park til I was 19.

Western European countries never had a gun country like Americans did, simply. It's not like they were taken away from us, we never had them to start with.

>Why is Europe so cucked?
Wrong subject to point that out, Ukraine.

Why is gun ownership so prevalent in the Americans compared to Europe anyways?

>most yuropean countries
>only 1 in 10 people own guns

>leafland
>5 in 10 people own guns
>burgerland
>7 in 10 people own guns
>tacoland
>babies are practically shooting eachother over drug disputes 2 minutes out of the womb

Gun culture*

Nah, people in my country weren't stupid enough to fight in either world war, we still have guns (most males do at least) and we don't make a fuss about it because they're being used responsibly.

Other europeans aren't used to having that much responsibility and they probably wouldn't want it. They are children and have been conditioned to behave as such through mindless consumerism, that's their problem. In America, the problem is niggers.

So grow up and get rid of niggers/sandniggers, and your gun problem will be solved in no time.

isn't this a good thing? I thought black people were bad for having warrior genes.

>Why is Europe so cucked?

peasant culture*

We invented you.

The insanity of socialism has been normalized there and people actually take seriously catcalls fo racist sexist bigot homophobe islamophobe lol not as fascist attempts to cut dissent. Yaron Brook and Ayn Rand are needed badly!! Ugly women and useless people have huge attitude and need to be smakked down! Reduce government spending and spending on law n judge in particular and reduce restions on free trade in name of phantoms such as safety and environmental disaster which never happens!

No, you kicked us out for not conforming with your elite monarchs and balls to the wall retarded religious wars.

>hurr hurr king says you gotta give him all this shit
>hurr hurr you gotta be ______ religion or you're a witch
>hurr hurr you can't form your own religious center or you get the sword

Maybe because gun ownership is imbedded on their constitution? Also Mexico has ridiculous gun laws, I read that a citizen can only own .22 guns.

Guns were never seen as toys like they are in America.

Have you seen the advertisement they use to sell guns in America? They're all about macho culture, about having your "man card", about showing just what a bad dude you are because your gun is the biggest gun, and you're going to kill a bad guy with it for sure one day, and get all the ladies.

And all the controversy about making certain accessories available?
It's like watching little girls arguing if the Barbie Princess playset is better than the Barbie Beach guard one.
Let them have their toys, the only reason they want combat grips and scopes is to play mix and match and play with their new commando playsets.

Meanwhile, in the rest of the world, guns are weapons able to end a life in a split second, and people generally aren't comfortable with knowing that anyone is holding them outside of people professionally expected to carry them (law enforcement, security guards, etc).
People who own a gun privately are rightfully seen as dangerous and touched in the head, considering that every single statistic ever published in the history of guns has shown weapons to be more dangerous to their own owner and family than to anyone else.

>on their constitution
I'm referring to the two American continents, not the country. You hear more about gun ownership in the Americas than you do in Europe.

LOL the Pasta is talking about macho culture

I get the mental image of so many hand gestures in that post as he's typing. Probably took him a half hour with all the badabings and eeyyyyyoooohs while gesticulating madly in the air while his daughter gets impregnated by a gypsy.

...

Name me a continent with more culture, of more historical importance, with more advancements and more style than Europe.

Certainly not you, Clappy.

You're thinking about southern Italy
That's where your stereotypes live

Really? I haven't seen or even if those ads. Maybe you're full of shit?

Ever since the US of A became a thing, Europe literally took a seat on the backburner.

How does it feel that your 3000 years of civilization and culture became irrelevant because the shitty peasant immigrants you threw away made a superior country in just 300 years?

Keep looking into the past. That's the only place you matter.

Asia.

Mutti Merkel will ensure all Europeans go extinct in their ancestral homelands, displaced by 3rd world barbarians.

>USA is literally Europe 2.0

And you're using this as a point against Europe?

Great logic.

Have fun hiding from blacks and Mexicans within the next decade.

You could've googled for 5 seconds, but ok.
But really, you want to argue that gun ads don't push those buttons?

Every single one is about how your gun is going to protect your family, how it's going to make you a man, a hero, how your gun is the best gun and it's going to drive away all the evil things in the world.

It's clearly catering to people grown on action movies, trying to make them think that they need a gun to be real manly men, and that if they don't buy a gun then it's their fault when a criminal kills everything they love.

Of course in reality most of the time it's the gun they bought itself that takes away the lives of those close to them, but the ads don't say that.

i've never seen a gun ad here in my life.

everyone i know that has a gun uses it for self defense. yes it's also a hobby but most people just have 1 or 2 guns, a pistol and a shotgun/rifle that they keep in their bedroom or truck incase someone breaks in.

i've never been in a gun that tried to sell me a gun using "machoism".

but keep talking about other countries as if you know them. fuckin spaghettis

This from a country that chose to remain cucked by England for 200 years.

There's doors in my house that are older than America. I don't think you have a say in history yet.

>e-e-europe is fucking great, I swear
>europeans become irrelevent when America gains their independence and kicks the world's ass at everything

Good luck with your mudslimes lol

Healthpack is correct

But you're not even a real country though

Oh shit, you got us beat. Damn, I forfeit the argument to the Old Wooden Door atom bomb.

We saw the danger and voted for a wall.

Besides, we know how to live in a heterogeneous society, and don't let the animals near our women and children as easily as you do.

>i've never seen a gun ad here in my life.
see Also, they're more prevalent in the Bible belt, for obvious reasons.

>everyone i know that has a gun uses it for self defense

That's another point. On average, anyone with a self defense gun ends up hurting themselves or their family.
In a high-stress situation, they forget everything about trigger discipline, they're not ready to kill a man, they fuck up in a thousand different ways.

Of course all of them think "I'm not like THOSE guys, if a bad guy comes here I'm going to kill them dead", but reality doesn't work like that.

You know how the majority of self defense guns are used?
To kill its owner, when the criminal just takes it away from the frozen-in-terror gun holder and shoots them.

>kicks the world's ass at everything

>can't beat mongoloid asians in a jungle or mongoloid muslims in a mountain

Next.

Very based

Stealing lines off an English politician? Great comeback, Chad.

You can own a gun in any european country if you have a good reason.

Mexicans and blacks rape a lot more whites than muslims do in Europe, you daft cunt.

I legally own a winchester bolt-action and a Mossberg 500, Hunting rifles, rifles and shotguns are regulated by law in belgium. Handguns and semi-automatic require a special license and frequent check-ups and trainings, which is why a lot of people dont bother getting a gun. Also, a lot of families still own rifles or guns that were never declared.



Lichtelijk gênant man.

>You know how the majority of self defense guns are used?
>citation needed

Good luck next time, Brad.

Why do you suck the dicks of professionals so much? Do you think there is a high barrier to become proficient with a firearm, as if it was on par with computer engineering?

Stupid fucking meme.

soetpt it aei hjave guns in my imageniatnation

I can't understand all that burger circlejerking while having 10 guns.
Why the fuck you need 10 guns?

t. humble hunter with one rifle

Hoezo? Amerikanen maken nog maar een paar honderd jaar deel uit van de club die wereldgeschiedenis heet. Laat ze nog maar een paar honderd jaar lid zijn voor ze hun mond openen.

Source? Sounds made up desu Senpai

Different guns for different situations.

I'm sure your fingers aren't fat enough yet to prevent you from using google.

You are all about to have a very good reason, since half of Africa is invading your lands.

Feit is wel dat ze in die paar honderd jaar een rijk gebouwd hebben waar hedendaagse Europese landen enkel naar kunnen streven. Socialisme en Neo-liberalisme heeft Europa de das omgedaan en daar dragen wij nu de last van.

Is that Ian on the left?

Ge zijt appelen met peren aan't vergelijken. En wat dan nog, de "Amerikanen" die Amerika hebben gesticht waren letterlijk Europeanen.

Maar ik geef u volledig gelijk, socialisme en neo-liberalisme hebben ons genaaid.

Nice kill ivan

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Because their government has trained them to fear weapons and to think that a utopian peace is possible.
The thing that they are forgetting is human nature, some people are just fucking shit.
People in Europe are victims 24/7. Even the police are victims, it takes 6 officers to take on one knife wielder, in the US we would have just shot him because that's what he deserves.

Women are becoming the higher percentage of firearm owners in the past few years. Along with women being the majority of competitive shooting athletes as well.

I'd believe this, because it does seem plausible considering that most people don't actually train to shoot in high stress situations on the move in a closed quarters environment, and that no amount of time spent shooting at paper on a firing range will fix that, but I'd like a source.

How many screw drivers do you own? Or should I ask, how many does your mom own.

guns for self defense is a stupid ass idea that lets anyone have a chance to rob and kill you. There arent any guns in civilian hands in Poland so when someone wants to rob my ass he needs to be swoller than I am or put together a bunch of people.

If shit against the government starts there are warehouses full of AKs around so people can arm themselves.

Letting every nigger have a gun is the shittiest and most anti-white idea ever

Ya but entering a kill house can easily train you for such a situation and you can find kill houses a lot of ranges across the US

Yeah nah... I live in "diverse" manhattan, my daughter goes to a 99% white private school, my office and neighbourhood are similarly homogeneous.

Come to think of it, the only blacks or Mexicans I see on the regular are behind the deli counter or driving my taxi.

Can't honestly see an opportunity for any of them to be alone with my wife or daughter unless they decided to take a midnight stroll through the south Bronx, which they would never do.

Meanwhile, Sweden is the rape capital of the west, and in Germany women are being told to dress more modestly lest they get raped by the thousands in full public view.

You're deluded m80

I'm not saying professionals have some golden standard of gun infallibility, I'm just saying that people aren't comfortable with anyone having a gun without a solid reason for it (like a job requiring it)
Which is why private ownership is so low.
Every customer feels like owning one is just a ticking time bomb more dangerous than it's worth.

Pic related, but if that's not enough, there's also something else you should consider.

When you're at gunpoint, the only thing the criminal wants is your money/phone/whatever.
You're going to lose AT MOST a couple hundred dollars worth of stuff, and you get to live after that.
Stats also say that criminals are very reclutant to actually open fire/stab a victim when unprovoked, since they don't want to escalate their crime and attract attention.

But when you draw a gun on them, everything flies out of the window.
You make them go into fight or flight mode.
They're cornered, they're going to jump at you, or shoot if they have a weapon themselves.

The only ways your gun is going to save you is if you shoot first (something almost no mentally sound human being has been shown to be able to do in a high-stress situation) or get extremely lucky (which is hardly an argument in its favor)


Just to make things clear, I'm not against people having guns, in case you think I'm for gun control and "taking your guns away".

I just think that the methods used to sell them are laughable, and the guillible nature of people who get conned into getting them is a bit pathetic.

Women are even worse than men on the self-defence side.
The stark majority of women using a gun in self defence just get their gun stolen by the attacked and used against them because they just won't shoot at another human being.

Lmao hows that working out for them?

And I forgot to attach the pic

>The stark majority of women using a gun in self defence just get their gun stolen by the attacked and used against them because they just won't shoot at another human being.
Any rape victim will pull the trigger in properly trained, many women in the US do not suffer the victim and they go out and get training.
Granted generally it's after something bad happens to them.

There isn't a high barrier when it comes to pulling a trigger, but there is a high barrier when it comes to being able to make proper decisions and fight in closed quarter firefights. Shit like that is why we don't have a mandatory drafting of citizens here in the States except in dire times. You have to be willing and built to be able to fight in that kind of fight. Just buying a gun and going to a shooting range on Saturdays doesn't make you better at anything except standing in one place and shooting a gun when you know where the target is ahead of time.

Again civilian kill houses exist at public ranges across the US, you can train yourself for this type of fight if you desire without the military

You're too retarded to debate.

Have you ever heard of the words "anecdotal evidence"?

As I said, look up the statistics you fucking oxygen thief.

Uhh, you kind of proved his point healthpack.

>didn't send all it's brave young men to die needlessly
>kept its guns

Check and mate noguns.

>Any rape victim will pull the trigger in properly trained,
>Ya but entering a kill house can easily train you for such a situation


It'd be great if we could just train for that, but studies have shown it doesn't work.
Even soldiers put into war, where not shooting means death, are often unable to pull the trigger if it means killing a man, until they become numb to it and break, becoming insane and needing therapy for the rest of their lives.

And you expect people who are at most protecting their iPhones to do the same?
A couple hundred bucks isn't worth losing your sanity or life over.

Even people who successfully defend themselves with a justifiable homicide usually end up in therapy with overwhelming guilt over what they've done.

This. Take out the nignogs shooting everything and our crime rates plummet. Europe doesn't care about their freedom or ability to defend themselves- they'd rather rely on daddy government.

Stay mad Hans.

Barely any animals to hunt here.

If I lived on Texel (one of our islands) I would buy a rifle to shoot cats.
But here on the mainland the cats are alright.

>Even soldiers put into war, where not shooting means death, are often unable to pull the trigger if it means killing a man, until they become numb to it and break, becoming insane and needing therapy for the rest of their lives.
Too many war movies and TV shows.
People do choke but it isn't as common as you think.
>And you expect people who are at most protecting their iPhones to do the same?
Ya cause everyone in the US is single, nobody is mating.
Do you know what the standard police response time to anything is? It's like 10 fucking minutes and that's if they are close.
Did you also know that a cop does not have to respond to the situation when it's called over the radio?
Having a weapon can literally be the difference between life and death in America

>guns

I don't care? I literally never have felt threatened in my life why would I need a gun?

>The stark majority of women using a gun in self defence just get their gun stolen by the attacked and used against them because they just won't shoot at another human being.

That is complete made up bullshit. Just for the fact that the majority of criminals are cowards and/or not looking for higher charges and will run away from basically anything, especially pulling a gun.

What they call warrior gene in modern genetics is just higher impulsiveness. Warrior just sounds nicer than savage.

you actually use your screw driver
Your guns are only used in ranges, it's like having multimple scew drivers and just screw in wood for fun

Wow, how will I recover?

Not that many exist in comparison to gun ranges, and many gun owners don't make use of them.
Additionally, you go into the kill house with your gun and know where the pop ups are. You aren't dropped off in a random spot, told to retrieve your gun and then locate and take down a target while avoiding getting hit yourself.
It trains you to stand and shoot, not avoid getting shot, not to shoot on the move against something planning to not be shot, it's not high stress, and it's not even your house you're training in.

Guns are tools just like a screwdriver and just like the same screwdriver which could be shoved into someones eye, the tool can be misused and abused.

This is true.

The idea that the Pasta is peddling is that "Lol women are stupid and some big bad macho man will just take the gun because the woman is just so scared"

The anti-gun folks here in the States do the same thing. "Guns are hard to use", "Just get a rape whistle", or "Just call the police, let the professionals handle things"

>There isn't a high barrier when it comes to pulling a trigger, but there is a high barrier when it comes to being able to make proper decisions and fight in closed quarter firefights.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that skill is essentially confined to trained infantrymen, and the majority of personal security and cops have as much ability as a civilian with a moderate interest. Which is why we saw sambo rambo in the dallas police shooting, after a few classes, was able to outmaneuver the dallas pd.

Where do you keep your locked ammunition box of illegal ammo in your house?
You can't defend yourself with it so get fucked faggot.

>Too many war movies and TV shows.

In the Vietnam war, an average of 3 out of 10 soldiers were able to shoot when ordered to
historynet.com/men-against-fire-how-many-soldiers-actually-fired-their-weapons-at-the-enemy-during-the-vietnam-war.htm

I don't fault you for thinking like that, everyone thinks "How hard could it be? You just pull the trigger", but it's impossible to understand the feeling even on a conceptual level until you're in that situation.

Also, you don't lose your life if your attacker just wants your wallet.
Deaths by shanking/firearm during a mugging often happen because the mugged individual had the smart idea of being a hero.

I've just never felt the need to own one.

I can fully understand why burgers do. When its reasonable to assume that pretty much anyone you pass on the street can potentially be carrying a gun I can completely understand why you might want one yourself.

It's not like we don't have guns here. My dad has a couple and my father-in-law is legit a gun nut. I currently live about a 2 - 3 minute walk away from a shop that sells guns.

I think Americans are just far more paranoid that us. Again, I can understand why.

I mean the threat of my home being robbed/invaded isn't really much of a concern to most Brits.

Plus there's the whole marriage of macho-ness to guns vibe that comes from America. It might be bollocks, I don't know but the kind of image I've gotten from America is that a true red blooded American man likes his steaks rare and his guns loaded USA USA USA

I don't think there's as big a desire to be so in your face about how masculine you are over here. Or there is, but it manifests itself in different ways. Drinking culture, sports allegiances, fist fights, that sort of thing

Also we're far more willing to recognise the dangers of gun culture over here. No, guns aren't as bad as liberals make out, but at the same time it kind of feels like you lot are sort of blind to any criticism of them. We banned handguns after Dunblaine and haven't (touch wood) had a single school shooting in the 21 years since. Would that work in America? Probably not, but it clearly has here to some extent and you lot need to recognise such things instead of crying about your guns being taken away every 5 minutes.

I'm not shitting on you lot for wanting guns, I can understand why someone might want to own one, I've just never felt enough of a desire to.

You mean nigger chimp out genes?

You are right those are culled, they are still strong in the US though.

That was a really stupid sentence.

A gun is used either to kill or harm someone. You just shoot in ranges or at animals maybe if you ever get your ass of your chair.

Just accept it, guns are another prescription for fatty americans with complexes, just like your big boi cars and big boi everything

>Also, you don't lose your life if your attacker just wants your wallet.
YES YOU DO YOU DUMB FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT AMERICA?

So what lives in northern italy then? Limp wristed pussies?

>The idea that the Pasta is peddling is that "Lol women are stupid and some big bad macho man will just take the gun because the woman is just so scared"

Are you even reading my posts?
I'm saying that EVERYONE, man or woman, is so reclutant to actually open fire on another human being that their weapon usually ends up just being stolen/unused.

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This is a gun used to drive nails

you said it already op, they're cucked