What proof do you have that Communism is a failed ideology Sup Forums?

What proof do you have that Communism is a failed ideology Sup Forums?

That's what I thought, absolutely none.

BASH

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Name ONE successful communist country.

Vietnam and China

>china
>communist

try again.

>Vietnam
>successful

sigh

The fact that it relies on solidarity and the good will of your average fella while being a "solution" to a large society where the people do not give a shit about each other.
It just doesn't work. It sounds nice to the loud mind but in practice it nevers works.

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**Social communist AKA just enough of statism to keep the power away from the same degenerates who would want to live in a communist society mixed with a liberal economy.
Economically communism is flawed and socially it's tyranny.

Norway

Mao Zedong
Total kill count: 100,000,000+

Collapse of the Soviet Union
USSR's violent take overs and retention of states
USSR and China going to war with each other
North Korea
China's turn to Capitalism
Vietnam's turn to Capitalism
Vietnam rejecting China and going to war with China
Yugoslavia collapse
Berlin Wall coming down
Defectors from East Germany
USSR defeat by the Muslims
Worldwide rejection of communism in general

upvote and thanks for the gold

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communism and fascism are the same if you would stop and look for a moment you would realize this

Achievements USSR:

SCIENTIFIC-TECHNOLOGICAL ACHIEVEMENTS:
SPACE :
Tata Sky Development System (direct broadcast satellite)
Prime spacesuit, CH-1 (1931)
First multistage rocket (1947)
Creating the staged combustion (1949)
First spaceport, Baikonur Cosmodrome (1957)
First orbiting satellite, Sputnik 1 (1957)
First living being in orbit, the dog Laika on Sputnik 2 (1957)
First man-made object to leave the Earth's orbit, Luna 1 (1959)
First telemetry communication to and from off the ground, Luna 1 (1959)
First object to pass near the moon, and the first object in solar orbit Luna 1 (1959)
First satellite hit the moon, Luna 2 (1959)
First images of the dark side of the moon, Luna 3 (1959)
First satellite to be launched to Mars, Marsnik 1 (1960)
First rocket boots (1960)
Creating space food (1961)
First satellite to Venus, Venera 1 (1961)
First person to enter orbit around the Earth, Yuri Gagarin in Vostok 1 (1961)
First person to spend one day in orbit, Gherman Titov, Vostok 2 (1961)
First double flight, manned Vostok 3 and Vostok 4 (1962)
First probe on Mars, Mars 1 (1962) made the first pictures of Mars from space
First woman in space, Valentina Tereshkova, Vostok 6 (1963)
Multitripulado first flight (3 persons), Voskhod 1 (1964)
First spacewalk EVA, by Aleksei Leonov, Voskhod 2 (1965)
First probe to hit another planet Venus, Venera 3 (1965)
First probe landing on the moon and transmitted from there, Luna 9 (1966)
First probe into lunar orbit, Luna 10 (1966)
Creation of the Soviet Soyuz spacecraft model (1967), which is the only way that NASA and ESA send astronauts into space
First space bathroom (1967)
First meeting and unmanned docking, Cosmos 186/Cosmos 188 (1967) until 2006 this feat was not mimicked by the USA
Close coupling and exchange of crew in orbit, Soyuz 4 and Soyuz 5 (1969)
First extraterrestrial samples returned by Luna 16 (1970)
First robot on a celestial body, Lunokhod 1 (1970)
First probe to Venus, Venera 7 (1970)

It always leads to state socialism, and less rights.

Every time

Communists are useful idiots who actually believe the state one days steps aside.

First data received from a probe on another planet (Venus), Venera 7 (1970)
First space station, Salyut 1 (1971)
First satellite to orbit Mars and make a descent, Mars 2 (1971)
Second robot on a celestial body, Lunokhod 2 (1973) and with the Lunokhod 1 is the only automated mobile laboratories that have explored the Moon guided by remote control until
First satellite to orbit Venus and send data back to Earth Venera 9 (1975)
Creation of the coupling mechanism and docking of spacecraft, Androgynous Peripheral Attach System (1975)
Creating space shuttle Buran (1976), which can carry 30 tons (USA model only 25), return flights with load of 20 tons (USA only 15), with a support rate of 6.5 (compared to 5.5 of the USA model), its auxiliary maneuvering system rockets and use oxygen and kerosene fuel instead of solid (like the USA) and gives better performance. Besides the Buran shuttle could make unmanned missions (USA can't), with ejection seats (the USA model does not have) considered the safest and most effective of the history and design more effective and resilient thermal tiles that USA version
Creating the world's most powerful rocket: Energy (1976), capable of carrying 100 tons
First Spaceship supply unmanned, Progress (1978)
First radio telescope (1979)
First woman to walk in space , Svetlana Savitskaja in Salyut 7 (1984)
First shuttle in orbit to Earth independently, Buran (1984)
First multi module space station: Salyut 7 and Kosmos 1686 (TKS-4) (1985)
First crew to visit two space stations, Mir and Salyut 7 (1986) aboard Soyuz T-15
First permanent space station to orbit Earth, Mir (1986)
First crew to spend over a year on Mir, Vladimir Titov and Musa Manarov (1987)

PHYSICS :
First nuclear power plant, Obninsk (1954)
Development of the largest thermonuclear experimental facility in the world, Tokamak 10, prototype of a thermonuclear reactor
Invention of the Tzar Bomb, the most powerful nuclear bomb in history (100 Mt) whose power was reduced for environmental reasons (50-57 Mt). Comparison to USA bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki 15 Mt
Invention of nuclear fusion
Invention of the Tokamak (1956), aiming to provide apparatus fusion plasma particle
Invention of the first nuclear icebreaker "LENIN" world's first nuclear-powered (1952)
Invention of particle accelerator microtron (1944)
Invention synchrotron particle accelerator (1957)
Invention of the electron paramagnetic resonance spectroscopy (1944)
First fast neutron reactor, BN350 (1955)
Creation pipeline longest history, Druzhba (1964)
First nuclear desalination reactor, BN-350 (1972)
First reflectron (1973)
Creating the largest geotechnical probe history, Kola Well (1970)
Creating BARS Press (1989)

communism and fascism are the same

Please go hang yourself.

ELECTRONICS:
Invention of the LED (Oleg Vladimirovich, 1927)
Invention of vibratory exercise equipment (1960)
Perfecting maser, Basov and Aleksandr Prokhorov Nikolai
Lomography Invention (1982)
First lie detector device, by Alexander Romanovich Luria
Creating underwater welding, Konstantin Khrenov (1932)
First reflector telescope, the Maksutov (1941)
First laser microphone (1947)
Creating the magnetotelluric (1950)
Discovery of the Belousov-Zhabotinski Reaction (1951)
Creation explosive compression generator pumped flow (1951)
Creating 3D holography (1962)
First microwave oven (1941)
First radio antenna

MEDICINE:
Invention of therapies against infectious diseases that were based on bacteriophage virus (1940)
Early surgical treatment of congenital heart disease, by pioneering Bukulev Alexander (1948)
Creation of Objective Psychology, by neurologist Vladimir Bekhterev, also known for pointing out the role of the hippocampus in memory, his study of reflexes, and Bekhterev's disease
First successful cornea transplant in 1931, by Vladimir Filatov, who developed tissue therapy
Creating radial keratotomy by Svyatoslav Nikolayevich Fyodorov
Creating the Ilizarov apparatus for lengthening limb bones and for the Ilizarov Surgery (1951) by Gavriil Abramovich Ilizarov
Creating cultural-historical psychology, psychological activity theory and method of "combined power", by Alexander Romanovich Luria
Enlarge criteria for the diagnosis of schizophrenia with the distinction between negative and positive symptoms, a key research and classification of schizophrenia concept, Andrei Snezhnevsky
First cardiac surgery under local anesthesia, Alexander Vishnevsky, 1953
Foundation of purulent surgery, Archbishop Luka Voyno-Yasenetsky, Stalin Prize, Nobel Prize in Medicine in 1946.
Discovery of Cherenkov Effect (Pavel Cherenkov Alekseyecih)
First artificial organ transplant
First transfusion of blood from a corpse, Sergei Yudin, 1929.
First blood bank. Created by Sergei Yudin in early 1930. Middle of that same year, the USSR would have 65 large blood donation centers and more than 500 branches.
Creation of painless childbirth (under anesthesia)
Creating Gramicina S (1942)
First head transplant with full brain function (1950)
Creating anthropometric cosmetology (1952)
Creating radial keratotomy (1974)
Discovery of Vitamins
Discovery of the virus
First acoustic microscope (1959)

The USSR
>b-but famine
The famine was caused by ukranian fucking shits burning their lands and killing their herds when the state came to collectivize them.
>b-but totaliaritanism
That was Stalin thing, the guy was a cunt but other than him the USSR was one of the most important countries art-wise in the 20th century, with important contributions in music and cinema that are still studied today.
>b-but the collapse
External factors, doesn't change the fact that the USSR took the Russia destroyed and humiliated by the Romanovs and turned it into the second world power.

Is this a pro Communist thread?

~100 million dead christians

>What proof do you have that Communism is a failed ideology Sup Forums?
What example of large scale communism would you say has been completely successful?

and even with all that achievement couldn't land on the moon because the N-1 was a total disaster just like their proposed shuttle program.

COMPUTERS:
First programmable computer MESM (1950)
First Soviet and European electronic computers , BESM (Sergey Lebedev, 1951) and MESM (Sergey Lebedev , 1958)
First computer with ternary logic (faster and more reliable than the binary system), Setun (Nikolai Brusentsov, 1958) and model development Setun-70 (Nikolai Brusentsov, 1970) which further reinforced the aspect of programming, improving to by a factor 5 software development over other architectures time
First personal computer, MIR (Victor Glushkov, 1965)
First computer-aided education system in history (Nastavnik), with a clear reference to the current
First superscalar computer (processor microarchitecture capable of executing more than one instruction per clock cycle), Elbrus-1 (Boris Babaian, 1970). The use of this equipment in 1978, ten years before commercial applications appeared in the West, the Soviet Union developed its missile systems and nuclear and space programs.
Foundation of cybernetics (Victor Glushkov)
Invention of Tetris (Alexey Pajitnov, 1984)
Invention of the FAR file manager, RAR and WinRAR format file (Eugene Roshal)
First mobile phone, Leonid Ivanovich Kupriyanovich (1955), which was copied by the USA in 1970 and Finland in 1980 gave him a civil use with Nokia.

>Guys communists invented buttplugs therefore communism didn't fail

LMAOing at your life rn

Yeah you better thank all that stolen Soviet tech and nazi scientists for that achievement fatty.

USSR starving millions of its own citizens to prove a point
China starving millions of its own citizens to prove a point
China erasing its cultural past to bring in a culture but then retracting that sentiment when Mao died
Forcing millions into farming occupations rather than letting them excel at what they were best at
Involvement in Africa and conflict minerals
Failed communist governments in Africa
Cultural Marxism being inherently self destructive to other cultures and itself
The staggering ratio of defectors from communist country to western ones
The failure of communism to take hold in the West despite having millions of sympathizers and people in key positions of power

MILITARY:
First multiple rocket launcher, the Katyusha rocket launcher (1939)
Creating the largest and most powerful in the world single-rotor helicopter, the Mil Mi-26 (1981)
Creating the Sikorsky S -64 Skycrane, able to lift more cargo than any other in history
Ekranoplano Creation (1950), similar to an airplane that uses the influence of the "ground effect" over the sea to just not consume fuel and carry 500 tons.
Creating the world's largest aircraft, capable of carrying 225 tonnes, the Antonov 225 (1980)
First telemechanical plane
First supersonic passenger plane, TU-144
First (and only) aircraft powered by a nuclear reactor, TU- 119
First (and only) space fighter aircraft built, the MIG-105, capable of knocking launchers , missiles and enemy satellites in space and back.
Creating the MIG-25 fighter jet with absolute altitude record (37.650 m), rise time from 0 to 30 km (3 min 10 s), speed circuit 500 km (2981.5 km/h)
First (and only) seaplane world operating reactors, Beriev BE-200
First ship to explore the North Pole, NS Arktika (1972)
Creating the most produced biplane in history, the Polikarpov Po-2 (1927)
Creating the Ilyushin Il-2, the most produced aircraft in history.
First hydrofoil, Raketa (1957)
First ship missile, Komar (1959)

horseshoe theory

Creating faster and able to dive deeper in history (1300 m), the Alpha class nuclear submarine. I just needed a crew of 27 people (compared to the 110 that need an american model, Los Angeles) as it was very automated.
Creating the largest submarine in history, the Typhoon class, only in carry 5 helmets (which makes it support several torpedo hits before being knocked out) and unique history in bringing certain luxuries like individual cabin, gym, pool, sauna, lounges, etc.
First tank with composite armor, the first to incorporate an autoloader, first tank missile launch: T64
First military robot; the Tt -26 ( 1949), a remote controlled tanks to minimize human casualties; equipped with DT machine guns, flamethrowers, smoke grenades and sometimes with a bomb between 200-700 kg which was released near the refuge to destroy enemy bunkers up to four levels underground. Was also trained to carry chemical weapons, but not used for safety and environmentalism.
First flamethrower tank in history, KHT-26 (1931)
First tank with wings, Antonov A-40 (1942)
Creating the best and most produced tank of World War II: T-34 (1940)
Creating the most produced tank in history, T-54/55 (1945)
Close reactive armor (1960)
Close reactive armor capable of protecting against APFSDS ammunition (armor piercing), 1985

10000000000000000000000 gorillions of dead christians

First infantry fighting vehicle in history (BMP-1 created in 1961) in addition to NBC protection, anti-tank, amphibious capability and launchable parachute with a 73 mm cannon, anti-tank missile launcher and 3 PKT machine guns. It was badly copied in 1980 (20 years later) by the USA, to get their first IFV, giving birth to the M2/M3 Bradley. It was 16.5 tons heavier than its counterpart BMP-1 with less crew and with a much smaller (and without missile capability) cannon.
First paratroopers forces with military use of history in 1930, being also fully mechanized his paratroopers with BMD (launchable parachute). USA still has not an IFV support their paratroopers.
First aerial firefighters (1936)
First modern assault rifle, the AK-47 (1947)
First torpedo remote control glider, PSN-1
First torpedo reaction, PRAB-203
First supercavitating torpedo, VA -111 Shkval
First airship missile
First intercontinental missile (R-7 Semyorka, 1957)
First anti-ballistic missile (1961)
First intercontinental missile submarine, Vysota R-29 (1969) Creating multi-rocket engine chamber world's most powerful liquid fuel, RD-170 (1987)
Creating infrared serving RKKA
First drogue parachute (1937)
Creating Sambo Martial Art by Anatoly Kharlampiev (1938)
First underwater assault rifle, the APS (1975)
Creating the Active Protection System, Drozd (1978)
First bathyscaphe, Mir (1987). First to explore the seabed under the North Pole
First performed the maneuver "Cobra Pugavhev" in 1989
First ramjet engine, R-3 (1939)
Aerowagon creation (1917) pioneered Schienenzeppelin German, the M-497 Black Beetle USA and Soviet turbojet train
First snowmobile history, RF-8, based on the pre-Soviet prototype Aerosani
First antisatellite weapon (1960)

>USSR starving millions of its own citizens to prove a point
>believing lies
>Forcing millions into farming occupations rather than letting them excel at what they were best at
Blatantly wrong, USSR literally forced everyone to pursue an education, and everyone that excelled in science got a job related since they wanted to show the world they were an intelectual powerhouse on par with USA.

nice jewish ideology you got there

ART:
Creation of the polyphonic or contrapuntal, metric, rhythmic, harmonic, melodic assembly. Previous conceptual audiovisual modalities, including video and clip, by Sergei Mikhailovich Eisenstein
Invention of xerography
Creation of chroma
Kinopanorama Invention (1956)
SOCIAL ACHIEVEMENTS :
First and totally FREE public education system, which achieved the highest rates of literacy in history in the 15 Soviet republics. Moreover, Soviet schools offered free food for students, so the work-life balance is made much easier than today in the capitalist countries. Even kindergartens were also free.
First FREE and universal health care system, which increased the life expectancy of the Soviets, less than 40 years in 1917, to reach Western levels in 80 (70 years). The achievements of hunger eradication and health systems can also compare with the average height of the Soviets in 1917 (1,60 m) to 1980 (1,80 m). This health system discovered painless childbirth and performed the first organ transplant.
Between 1945 and 1964, the Soviet national income grew by 570%, compared to 55% in the USA (and remember that the USSR was not a Marshal Plan to help the country)
Invention of evening studies so that workers could build careers.
First country in history where abortion was legal and free (since 1920)
First country in history to achieve an unemployment rate at 0%
Equality policies, one of the first countries to adopt women's suffrage
First woman in history to hold a position in a government (Aleksandra Kollontai)

what's with fucking Spaniards and Stalinism, what the fuck is wrong with you
Stalin literally fucked you over in civil war

More like they feed each other. There are no political revolutions, just possessed people who have deep resentment.

The rise of fascists is because of the cultural Marxists. We all know deep down the radicals wanna fight. People love violence because they think it'll solve their problems. You just get adrenaline and then you feel like shit, is the reality.

There are no more political revolutions. Soon Fascism will become capitalized upon in the mainstream if more people become red pilled. The revolution is a meme revolution.

You should just be honest, that works a lot better than historical revision. Communist crimes were documented by communists themselves.

Communism is great for small tribes where you can weed out the non-contributors. I suppose you could argue the same for capitalism though.

so much pasta
if i compiled a list (a much, much longer list) of all the achivevements made by nazi scientists (under nazi regime) imperial japan, or imperial britain, does this constitute a winning endorsement of the political system they happened to be in at the time...? is it logically sound to attribute the lions share (or any share really) of credit to the despots who ruled the countries...?
no
communism is a failed ideology because it failed in every country which applied it to themselves. if this isnt proof enough, then you must be a fucking commie and you should GTFO if youre a real commie go kurdistan and die in the sand

t. nun raper
Franco did nothing wrong

The fuck are you talking about? The Spanish Civil War was caused by an insurrection supported by Italy and Germany.
Compared to the support of those countries that used Spain as a testing ground for their military tech Stalin barely helped us.

The fact that even Spain isn't communist.

Remember NIMBY

>XDDD BASH FASHY I HAV NO ARGUMEN XDDDDDDDDDD

Of course a fucking russian cuck will defend commies.

He is trying to 1up my two lists that I made off the top of my head.

>What proof do you have that Communism is a failed ideology Sup Forums?
human nature

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>fails every time it's been tried in varying countries around the world
>what proof is it that it's a failing ideology?

A TRUMPENREICH TO LAST 1000 YEARS
>A TRUMPENREICH TO LAST 1000 YEARS
A TRUMPENREICH TO LAST 1000 YEARS
>A TRUMPENREICH TO LAST 1000 YEARS
A TRUMPENREICH TO LAST 1000 YEARS
>A TRUMPENREICH TO LAST 1000 YEARS
A TRUMPENREICH TO LAST 1000 YEARS
>A TRUMPENREICH TO LAST 1000 YEARS

If we judge by their actions (the best way to judge btw) they are almost indistinguishable

>NKVD shooting people around and sabotaging everything by their idiotism never happened
>Stalin wuz a gud boi
didn't know you were still alive Mr. Mercader

Embrace Communism!

It's literally JUST ONE FAGGOT WHO MAKES LIKE 5 THREADS A DAY

Consider it lucky for not living in a communist/post-communist country. Economy is fucked, politicians are basicly selling out your own country, you´re still ruled by the same people, but they are colourfully more diverse.

Communists are fuck ups by nature. They managed to get their own country and they still fucked that up. Why you ask? Because they weren't satisfied with enough, all they had to do was keep their own little country (Russia is the biggest in the world) running along nicely. Communists are greedy and don't know when to stop.

Yeah because what ruined the country was the NKVD jailing and killing potential rebels, not the actual rebels bombing civilians and slaughtering masses with nazi tech while establishing a dictatorship whose ministers still rule to this day.

>its a pablo pot runs out of arguments and reverts to crappy soviet-tier memes thread

Two successful countries out of 41 is nothing to brag about.

Liquidate the bourgeoisie.

so you admit it happened?
how about that gold they took?

I like how all communist shills are from countries that never experienced communism.

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>that never experienced communism

But bourgeoisie gives you jobs and a lot of money than the state would ever pay you.

Don't go backpedaling now, your point was that Stalin "ruined this country".
I'd like you to say how Stalin ruined the country instead of the nationals that started the Civil War resulting in the killing of 500k people, destroying half of it, and starting a dictatorship that lasted for half the XXth century.
Funny how totalitarianism seems to be a-ok as long as it's not spooky communism.

>Name a succesful commie country
Sweden, feminist-commies run everything there.
It is going so fucking well they'll be a minority in 10 years.

Communism, everyone dies equally fast and with no food.

Fuck all the dictatorships, but the fucking Communism is just fucking wrong, because it destroys both national identity and country´s wealth.

my point was Stalin and his NKVD thugs ruined Republicans with their behind-the-scenes meddling and paranoid persecutions
how you interpreted that as "Franco did nothing wrong", I don't know

this is the worst image i have ever seen

Fuck off, my grandfather is spanish refugee, Soviets were the only country who cared about the Republic

>The soviet union uses a planned economy focused on scientific progress to get into space
>The US goes "Oh shit! We need to prove that our ideology is better!"
>The US uses a planned economy focused on scientific progress to get onto the moon

that doesn't invalidate what I said
and your grandpa was probably a Stalinist

If you check the IDs in this thread you'll see that I never defended Stalin.
But despite his behind-the-scenes meddling, the only country that actually aided the Republic side was the USSR, the rest of the "democratic" countries officially didn't interfere and all the help came from volunteers.

My grandpa was a 6 yo child, he came here with his parents

>Oh nos 500k died at hands of nationals

Stalin murdered 60-80 million of his own people. Most not even during war time.

>Turdburger doesn´t know the difference between government focused contracts and dictatorial redistribution of resources.

more memes like this please

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French helped a bit
in the end I think Republicans would do better without Stalin's "aid"
pardon me, your great-grandpa

Let's not start pretending NASA is a capitalist concept now.

more like 10-15 million
t. Robert Conquest

Out of how many?

Thanks to that image I now have cancer.

It fails so drastically and consistently, communists won't even admit that it has ever been tried.

>it's another commies get btfo and cry thread
these are always hilarious.

remember yesterday when that faggot brit resorted to "guys can someone please just shut this leaf up and show him an example of successful communism?"

all I got was a youtube video about socialism and a link to a reddit post.

Seriously, commies are the dumbest fuckers on the planet. They make the Trump rednecks seem intellectual. Oh and anyone who posts commie garbage on Sup Forums is a redditor. This has been proven true every single time.

My dear Burger, Communism doesn´t consider people, because it´s only there for the "progress".
Capitalism only works because of the people wanting more of money, stuff and services. Capitalism needs people and that´s why it´s trying to be the most liberal.

>external factors

If communism is so fragile as a ideology to snap at the first external intervention then why should anyone adopt such a brittle ideology?

Crippling a country while your friends thrive on the bodies of the starved, then declaring "look at all the cool shit we made" doesn't count user.

BASH

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This triggers the communist

YA!! MAKE THE EXPLOITED GOVERNEMNT WORKERS CLEAN IT UP!!!

Mao's brutal dictatorship was communim? Marx would dispute you.

>That shitty outfit
>Looks like he made it himself
Well "A" for effort

How many fucking counties do we have to fuck up before we realize Communism is a fucked up system.

Shit even half baked communism like Sweden and the US are unsustainable.

If it was so great why did they have to limit people's freedom to leave? Shouldn't people have wanted to stay?

so velly velly collupt
book a trip to macau and see for yourself