Redpill me on the Trump press secretary/MSM conflict

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Pol can't defend this

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no

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same time, same angle

We need the autists to get in here and compare the angle of the sun in the Obama inaugural pics and the Trump inaugural pics. It's worth noting, though, that it was sunny during Obama's inauguration and overcast during Trumps. It seems likely that the sunlight would distribute itself differently on an overcast day, making the comparison more challenging.

news says no one showed up

but they did

ctr is here and are talking shit

trump had a press conference to clarify facts

fin

The fake news establishment is desperately trying to convince conservatives they are a tiny powerless minority

There's not much to it:

From Trump's vantage point there were a lot of people there (see CNN gigapixel).

But a Birds-eye photo view shows a different picture (disclaimer - nobody knows when this picture was taken).

Trump has a big ego so he's upset about it, but in the end it's completely irrelevant.

MSM cherrypicked photos, Trump called them a faggot.
Happens every day around here.

It's being used as a distraction from other things going on.

Here's the redpill: two doses

First, you can literally watch it for yourself with . Listening to commentary on it when you can literally see how empty parts were (when Trump claimed it filled all the way to the Washington Monument) is all you need.

If being able to look at something with your own eyes isn't enough to red pill you, whatever.

Second dose?

That doesn't matter. What matters is that Trump and co. were willing to take something minor like this (who fucking expected him to top the first Black President in attendance, in a liberal city?) and lie about it.

And lie poorly.

Just giving the MSM ammo, and turning more people against Trump.

Politics is about good will and momentum. Trump will get his 100 days, but if he burns through his good will and loses momentum, he may face impeachment if Repubs figure Pence is less of a liability.

they built a replica and half filled it idiot

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>"alternative facts"

Trump lied about data release by transit authority so that people would think he wasn't 2nd place to Obama and the woman's March.

He is a legitimate faggot.

satellite image of Obama 2009

Both parties are in the wrong.
Trump's crowd is maybe 20% smaller than Obama '09. Spicer and Kellyanne are lying, and the picture claiming that the picture of Obama '09 is photo shopped has been photoshopped by the same OP.
The MSM is also stretching the truth.

well for one he didnt memorize his speech which shows its a load of bs

Sean Spicer managed to lose any residual credibility he had on the first day of the job. Sad.


If you want to pick a fight with the press wait till they actually drop the ball. Dont repremand them for accurate reporting.

This and the picture from the Trump inauguration the dishonest media put out was taken 1-2h before the event.

This is the real crowd:

edition.cnn.com/interactive/2017/01/politics/trump-inauguration-gigapixel/

Less than during Obama's first inauguration, but:

>Obama's 2009 inauguration was a record, unmatched by anything before
>DC is cucked as fuck: 90+% voted Clinton
>All the Trump fans basically took off from work and travelled to DC

The lefttards, instead of just saying that Obama had more people there in 2009, post fake news and fake pictures to make the numbers smaller than they actually are. Just think how dumb this is from them: the truth is actually on their side here, which it almost never is. Instead of just claiming that victory, they still have to lie. Sad!

(((Appelbaum)))

every. time.

Oh look there are data. They are pesky things.

google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2017/01/22/dc-transit-statistics-inauguration/?source=dam?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

They're pretty similar, if you look toward the back on the gigapixel you can easily see empty areas in the back few sections. Posting photos from the front makes the crowd look bigger, always.

Also
>A few cheeky anons and reports post photos
>Trump gets his feelings hurt
>spends all his time in front of a CIA KIA memorial bitching about it
>Has Spicer go tell easily debunked lies

He's just burning through his good will, and for no reason

every thread is "red pill me on x" though. are you new here?

>not comparing pictures with the same point of view
Nice try

Low energy cuck Donald Trump feels the need to lie about something stupid to the American people and needs that stupid bitch Conway to tell the mean MSM to stop - SAD!

Nigger. Look at the fucking Gigapixel picture. Zoom all the way to the Washington Monument. Full.

Again, no one is denying that Obama had more live visitors. Don't lie and don't make the numbers even smaller than they actually are by posting fake pictures from long before the inauguration.

Also your data is irrelevant because;

>DC is cucked as fuck: 90+% voted Clinton
>All the Trump fans basically took off from work and travelled to DC

Of course there were more people using the public transport during Soros' "women's march". They are all cucked DC people. The Trump people had to arrive into DC from other cities, which they most likely did by car/airplane.

It's not the media's job to report facts or hold public figures accountable!

Their job is to repeat our alternate facts for public consumption!

You forgot to take the second pill,

WRONG. Not similar at all. The propaganda pics were taken long before the inauguration. On the gigapixel, you can see that there are people standing before the tents infront of the monument.

>Binyamin Appelbaum

This is so obvious it might actually be a Sup Forums troll account. Nice work getting the 'verified' mark though.

Yeah, even on the overhead you can see there are people standing at the front of each section.

Because there were TVs there.

So you can see people before the tents and "in front" of the monument, obvioiusly, but you can also see white spaces on the ground signifying a lack of filling of each section.

it does look like theirs slightly more at obama's but it honestly doesn't look as extreme as what the media is telling us. Look this shit honestly doesn't matter, trump's in. we need to put our energy into things other than this petty shit.

The common liberal media argument is that nobody moved for 4 hours last friday. They all use the same still picture that was taken at 8:16AM.

Mind you this was aired live on CBS.

Same. I remember saying to the folks I was watching the inauguration with; "hehe there is so much white there, including the sheets."

Why do they feel the need to lie about data?

Fuck your pictures. Look at the ridership and the lies Trump said.

Dishonest faggots BTFO... go to cucked Germany.

I don't think hidden voters will show up themselves in public space.
They were probably posting something ON HERE.

“This was the largest audience ever to witness an inauguration, period,” Spicer said with emphasis. “Both in person and around the globe.”

he killed the msm narrative and told the truth while the media was trying to misinform. uncovered lies should be punished.

Trump pissed off the media, so they are fucking with him as much as possible. This makes him want to piss them off even more, so they continue to fuck with him.

This will continue for the next 4 years. Enjoy!

>“Both in person and around the globe.”
>witness
Note that he said witness instead of attend. It's unfortunate that some people are simply mentally incapable of understanding modern society with it's new fangled gadgets such as television and them there internets. But hey, they'll keep posting a long debunked image and everyone will just look at them like the retards they are.

Facts hurt.

They lied about metro use. They lied about floor coverings. And they lied about the total attendance. Pathetic!

What the fuck do you not understand about "in person"?

Obama's was bigger.

Trump himself said 1 to 1.5 million attended.

Keep trying.

>and around the globe.”
>and around the
>and around
>and
AND, a(ə)n/
conjunction
conjunction: and

1.
used to connect words of the same part of speech, clauses, or sentences that are to be taken jointly.
"bread and butter"
synonyms: together with, along with, with, as well as, in addition to, also; More
besides, furthermore;
informalplus
"coffee and a scone"
used to connect two clauses when the second happens after the first.
"he turned around and walked out"
used to connect two clauses, the second of which results from the first.
"do that once more, and I'll skin you alive"
connecting two identical comparatives, to emphasize a progressive change.
"getting better and better"
connecting two identical words, implying great duration or great extent.
"I cried and cried"
used to connect two identical words to indicate that things of the same name or class have different qualities.
"all human conduct is determined or caused—but there are causes and causes"
used to connect two numbers to indicate that they are being added together.
"six and four make ten"
archaic
used to connect two numbers, implying succession.
"a line of men marching two and two"
2.
used to introduce an additional comment or interjection.
"if it came to a choice—and this was the worst thing—she would turn her back on her parents"

I realize that there's a good 40% chance that you're english second language but come on, how do you even access the internet without basic english knowledge of conjunctions?

Trump said 1 to 1.5 million were there.

In person.

1.5 million in person would make it the biggest alone.

let the liberal media argue about meaningless numbers instead of stuff that matters.
Classic trump tactic

Yeah but now he is fucking up on basic facts out of vanity.

Now he is saying he will not release his tax returns. A other lie.

I don't trust him to tell the truth about serious matter which make him look bad.

Nixon 2.0

>"Honestly, it looked like a million and a half people," he added. "Whatever it was it was, but it went all the way back to the Washington monument. ... [They said] we drew 250,00. Now that's not bad, but it's a lie."
Aww look sweetie, we have this thing called "the internet" where we can get the exact quote of what someone said. You should try it some time. Note that he said it "looked like" not that there were. Better luck next time hon.

Obama probably got larger crowds, which makes sense since DC is deeply democratic, and Trump's inauguration had shitty weather.

He claimed that 420,000 people used the D.C. metro on Trump's Inauguration Day, compared to 317,000 for Obama's 2013 inauguration.

Those numbers simply don't match up with what Metro has reported. According to the Washington Post, Metro said 570,557 people took trips on Friday in total, compared with 1.1 million trips at Obama's 2009 inauguration and 782,000 at his 2013 inauguration.

Washington Post also used the 8:16AM image on it's front page and on their website. Primary source please, not "Washington Post claims that this happened" because they're not a credible source in of themselves.

pic related is all you need to know

>What are time zones

Go on his twitter and check right now, idiot, it's in line with washington DC 11:20

More facts"

Spicer said white surfaces had never been used before.

Wrong.

2013 was the first time. Either lying or incompetent about GRASS COVERINGS.

Those are obviously blue pills and that spacing and grammar screams reddit.
>here's the red ones and there are 3.
First the time lapse purposefully zooms in at the last few seconds, which would have been the last few minutes leading up to
the ceremony which is when you would have seen a big growth in the crowd. To get a real picture look at the gigapixel
This clearly shows a full national mall all the back to that white building after which you lose your line of sight. That's a much larger
crowd than the one they originally tried to show.
Secondly, things like this do matter, the biggest debate between the left and the right is who is telling the truth, Trump or the media.
Trump says he is a good honest person and that the media is blatantly lying about who he is, what he does, what he says and reality
in general to influence the people and undermine the government. The media, on the other hand, says Trump is a terrible person who
does horrible things, says horrible things, has horrible plans, and is the real liar. Every little argument like this is gonna matter until it
is clear who is the one that was lying. This time, again it was CNN
Third point is that the Trump picture purposefully selected by the media. The Obama picture was not only selected for the biggest crowd
but has now been proven to have been doctored and zoomed to make the crowd seem much larger than it really was. Finally the PBS
timelapse also conveniently zooms and moves so that it appeared to be consistent with "Trump's full crowd". Well what does that mean?
That means that different media companies are working together to plan and fabricate totally untrue versions of reality in an effort to undermine
a president before he was even inaugurated. But even scarier is that this should serve as proof that we were telling the truth when we made similar
claims during the election. The media almost conned the US into electing the worst candidate imaginable, Hillary Clinton.

>posting from the front instead of an aerial view

fuck off shill

youtu.be/Z3c8Fh8FdGI

They are going to be bringing up inane bullshit to claim that "drumpf is done" for the next 8 years. Its best if we immunize ourselves to it now.

That doesn't change the fact that the actual photo was taken well before the actual inauguration

It was deliberately deceptive, however. That kind of shit can't be tolerated. We have to hold the lying press accountable as part of MAGA.

stupid shit that will be forgotten tomorrow once real work gets underway

>The common liberal media argument is that nobody moved for 4 hours last friday. They all use the same still picture that was taken at 8:16AM.

WRONG.

IT WAS TAKEN AT 11:20 AM LOCAL TIME


>WHAT ARE TIME ZONES

KILL YOURSELF KEK

taken at different times. Obama had ~100000000 and trump had ~900000, admittedly less sure, but Obama got more considering DC is mainly liberal and Obama "muh first black president" if you count all the live streams though trump got well over a billion

AGAIN, WHAT ARE TIME ZONES

THE ENTIRE EVENT IS IN DOZENS OF LIVESTREAMS ON YOUTUBE, ALL SHOW HARDLY ANYONE SHOWED UP

TRUMP HAD 190,000 PEOPLE TAKING THE SUBWAY TOO

>Trump's has a building blocking line of site
>Obama's is clear to the monument
Gee I wonder why one looks bigger, maybe it's because it has a longer line of sight

time zones dont work like that. he was at the inauguration and time zones dont just magically change over the years

>11:20am

hoe that shit was on the news before trump even arrived when they barely started filling in the upper area

>TIME ZONES
Look calm your autism.

It aired on CBS, do you know what timezone they're in? EST. Do you know what timezone CBS uses? EST.

Are you seriously trying to argue that there's a CBS station on the west coast of africa?

It aired live. That exact shot was aired as I was leaving to work.

"This was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period," Spicer told journalists.

Except he didn't just say it was a lot of people he said it was 1500000. He said that to the cia for no fucking reason other than ego along with several other blatant lies.

>Denying video evidence


youtube.com/watch?v=hss3zS8I7x8


youtube.com/watch?v=PdantUf5tXg


youtube.com/watch?v=8-P5e7X4hP8

According to the preliminary data from Nielsen for inauguration coverage, 30.6 million television viewers in the United States watched Trump’s swearing-in, 19 percent below the audience of 37.8 million for Obama’s 2009 inauguration.

The record-holder for an inauguration TV audience remains Ronald Reagan, who attracted 41.8 million viewers in 1981.

I don't know what to believe

The gigapixel clearly shows that the OP image is fake, but there are still empty places behind

All in all I think it was a wrong move to say that shit at the White House press briefing.

Pick your battles. House, senate, Supreme Court and Whitehouse is red. Trump needs to turn down his fucking ego and focus on getting shit done.

> audience to ever witness
Dear, please try to look up what witness means and try to remember that the internet and television exists. Thanks.

Oh fuck off, shill.

You've got to be smart enough to notice how all of those cut off before the inauguration is even close to starting. Not to mention the selective cutting featured in that last one.

I voted for him too but that doesn't mean everyone who voted needs to suck his dick. It's only a win for me when he does something useful.

You're getting warmer. Just a little more and you'll be correct.

Hint: remember that people in other countries have tvs and the internet too and they can "witness" something remotely.

>no timestamps
>clearly prior to the upper section filling up

what the fuck is your point you cuck

The middle one shows the whole thing, what are you talking about?

Are you claiming the metro figures for (lower than Bush) are false?

Hey cool. You found caps lock

What data do you have to prove the number of witnesses is more than any in history?

I'll wait.

You know the thing youre on right now that more people than ever before watch things with?
That isnt counted in ratings, CNN alone had 16 million on their stream

I agree 100%. Although it was extremely petty of the media to compare his inauguration to Obama's, he really should not have lashed back as hard.

Trump's gonna have a long four years if he thinks he has to strike back at every piece of negative media he's going to get, fabricated or not.

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It's time

That's what they'll claim but they know you're right. This is their livelihood after all.

>I voted for him too but that doesn't mean everyone who voted needs to suck his dick. It's only a win for me when he does something useful.

Nope. Cock sucking liars in the media will be absolutely wrecked. Get used to media accountability.

Notice how he's autistically screeching about time zones. Also notice he's british.

The picture is from 8:16 EST. EST is -4 from UTC, which explains why he thinks the pictures are from when the inauguration happened. He thinks that Washington DC is somehow near london since that's the only time zone he knows.

Starting posts with dear makes you look like a faggot, not a woman.

So you're claiming the Washington Metro are lying right?

Of course you are, any piece of evidence which contradicts you is just a lie :^)

>Pick your battles. House, senate, Supreme Court and Whitehouse is red. Trump needs to turn down his fucking ego and focus on getting shit done.

They haven't picked their battle, they're picked their war: they're going to call out the press on their bullshit non-stop for 4 to 8 years. It only looks ridiculous now because this time the press focused on something ridiculous in the first place and made it major news. Wait until the press falsely reports on something big and puts national security at risk. The administration won't look so ridiculous constantly questioning them anymore.

You have NO proof to back up your claim do you?

When presented with obvious falsehoods about slicers metro data you can't refute.

They were also either rincompetent or wrong about the floor coverings.

Unless you can prove otherwise.

I'll wait.

No one, outside of the internet, cares about this. Trump made a joke about it at the CIA HQ and Spicer mentioned this along with other items the MSM lied and refused to comment about all in a five minute speech. No one lied about anything and both sides know this. The MSM hyperbolized and spins everything, like always, and in about two weeks time there will be something else to bitch about.

>endless research/debate is required to make sense of something as simple as how many people attended an event
not looking forward to the next 4 years lads

That white is the tarp over the grass on the mall, isn't it? Isn't the left pic before they uncover it before people arrived? It must be much earlier then.

I don't need to. You're the one making the claim.

I pointed out how you read the transcript incorrectly and provided a direct quote as to what was said.

You've made the claim that what was said is incorrect, which means its on you to prove what you claim, that fewer humans on earth witnessed (in person, television or internet stream) the Trump inauguration than the Obama inauguration.

Trump’s inauguration had 16.9 million live streams on CNN. Obama’s first inauguration, The Guardian reported, had 21 million video streams on CNN, shattering its previous 5 million record. So we do know that estimates show Obama’s 2009 CNN livestream numbers were greater than Trump’s.

You're wrong again.