This is why I question the holocaust

This is why I question the holocaust

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I agree. Also, the laws against Holocaust denial
make it seem like they have something to hide.

I get that the numbers might be exaggerated and misconstrued numbers by normies not understanding how history works but what is the actual evidence of the holocaust never happening?

There is none, user

Reddit is 1984 tier when it comes to censorship of opposing ideas.

Thats what I had figured but I am still curious, if not for nothing more than to cut down on the BS

the laws are misguided, but as a seriously oldfag, I knew quite a few survivors, and I knew two men (one relative) who liberated a camp. it's crazy to think that something so enormous that happened so recently would start to be denied, but here we are.

It pisses me right the fuck off when this happens on Reddit. I want to fucking scream. There's probably at least 50 pages of good writing in there, both pro and con. I could have learned so much from reading that thread.

Some dough-headed mod makes a decision with no oversight and no transparency and whoops! All that writing is gone.

As if the downvote mechanism wasn't enough to enforce groupthink.

Dude someone could have got offended from it

The thought that a whole nation has gone completely nuts always made me question how really the story went

This is why I question it.

I'm a male prostitute and had an elderly Jewish woman as a client and I know from all she told me that the Holocaust was faked after the war.

Requesting the Holocoaster Tycoon and masturbation machine quotes.

I also question the holocaust numbers but I also question the numbers of people killed by the soviet union
people throw out wild estimates of 60 million to 200 million. it all seems like war time propaganda to me.

did the holocaust happen is the wrong question

the right question is "does the holocaust give the jews the right to control half the world's governments by means of illicit influence, murder foreign citizens, strafe american ships in international waters, conduct a de-facto apartheid regime in palestine, conduct aggressive military expansion etc etc all while hiding behind >muh holocaust

the answer to which is no

P.S. the holocaust was greatly exaggerated and the laws against denying it are fucking retarded

nizkor.org

Fake and gay.

it was mathematically impossible to stuff that many people into such a small area and gas them in teht ime frame they claim

it was physically impossible to extract that many corpses in the time frame they claim it was done in the manner and methods they claimed were used

The germans had the most advanced crematoriums in history because they are even faster and better than our current year high tech cremation ovens

jews admitted to being there for months being entertained with theatre and a pool for swimming, having even a cantina to purchase from and musical lessons to learn...clearly an elaborate plot by the Nazis no?

This was the big one for me

Not all 6 gorillion were killed in the gas chambers. Many were killed by guns, starvation, exhaustion, or disease.

And yes those last three count, or else you're saying mao Zedong didn't kill that many people

that's pretty fuckin weird, but thanks for your input

>perfectly legal to deny the Armenian genocide
>illegal to deny the Holocaust in some countries

DO NOT QUESTION US, GOY

I went to the Holocaust museum in Jerusalem a few weeks ago. Interesting, since I don't believe in the Holocaust narrative. The word gas only appeared once the entire time. According to the museum, most people died from being overworked, dying from typhus, and simply being shot by Sonderkommandos and soldiers just following orders. All three main causes of death were a direct result of work camps and being rounded up. And the evil was really placed on the fact that Jews were rounded up on the basis of ethnicity in the first place. Whether or not Hitler knew or approved, this destroyed nationalism for the next 80 years. The world would have been a better place if the eternal hebrew never existed in the first place.

PS- There is more public hate for the Romans than the Nazis in most places I saw in Israel, it's actually pretty funny

I must also mention, no single Jew was gassed

My burger mind doesn't really understand what you're getting at here.

Only because it was a Roman (Pilate) who got them to put the Christ's blood upon themselves in the first place.

STOP QUESTIONING HISTORY YOU FUCKING NAZI

huh, I wonder if (((they're))) changing their tune after (((they))) realize the wonders of the internet make it very difficult to prevent the destruction of giant falsehoods

i never even thought twice about it growing up. my grandad fought in the war for the brits and i grew up thinking well if he fought for the brits and i'm american it's pretty easy to tell who the good guys were, but then i go to pol....

Holocaust denial is the denial that Germany had the intention to massacre Jews. They do not deny that work camps existed or that Jews were specifically targeted. They deny that at any point it was Germany's decision to commit systematic mass murder. From this perspective the deaths occurred near end of the war were from typhus and starvation mostly. They strongly deny the existence of chambers designed for the gassing of Jews.

that's like going to cnn for news. why bother. even when it's true they're lying.

Actually, it comes from King Herod, who they oddly enough hate for not being ethnically Jewish enough. Also, after the Zealot rebellion, the Jewish faction that initiated the Jewish rebellion which most Jews opposed, the Jews were physically removed from Jerusalem and got their shit kicked in, culminating in the destruction of the second temple. They really don't care about Jesus from a theological point of view. Plenty of people claimed to be Messiah before and after Jesus. They only begin to hate Jesus when they think about Catholics specifically.

But they are all semitic religions anyway, so who cares

>nation
no country would take in the jewish refugees. all of europe hated jews. i know an old 85 year old french guy, he said everyone hated jews back then.

What weapon do you know that can do that?

For me the Holocaust is very much a case of "The lady doth protest too much".

I've never done any reading for or against it, but the absolute fucking fury with which the state and the Jews come down on anyone questioning the narrative is extremely suspicious.

If it was unequivocal historical fact as written in the textbooks, they wouldn't feel the need to shout down dissent so vehemently.

My expectation is that it's less along the lines of "It didn't happen", and more along the lines of "They kinda deserved it"

>Nazis had a super weapon, capable of annhilating 20,000 people in a mock town, but also leaving no evidence behind.
>didn't use this super weapon against the soviets or allies for some reason though
kek.
Even if the Nazis did try to eradicate the Jews, I will always deny the Holocaust because of bullshit like this. Nuremberg was a sad joke.

Literally no one claims that people weren't in camps and that there weren't' atrocities you stupid fuck

This. Also the one where they guy said they fed jews to a bear and an eagle in a cage.

exactly what I thought

It's the arch of Titus. It's been on the Jews list for 2000 years. It's basically a monument commemorating the first shoah of the kikes.

my problem is this. if you set up camps to kill people it would be very fucking easy. the hardest part is getting them in camps. there's no way they couldn't have killed them all.

>using cold pesticide pellets to fumigate a room by just dropping them in a cold concrete bunker to kill people within 15 mins
>dragging supposed thousands of bodies down the hall and upstairs in less than a minute
>cremating all the bodies with maybe 20 coal furnaces in under an hour and repeating the process

And all this has to be true for the camp execution numbers to be true ^

Did the Nazis deny the holocaust during the Nuremberg Trials?

>jews STILL butthurt, almost 2000 years after the fact
OY VEY

>easy
It's harder to haul tons of people across the fucking country just to kill them.
IRL the Nazis lined prisoners up and shot them when they wanted them dead.
Look up Himmler's sardine trenches on Google (I know, I know, not an argument and >Google | not making any arguments with the sardine trenches thing)
The Nazis committed atrocities, the holocaust isn't one.
It's as sound as the whole bigfoot and Roswell conspiracies.

RIP GABE

The "holocaust" didn't even exist until after. It's a term that was applied after the fact to describe a wide array of events in an attempt to make the German people collectively guilty.

Hanz and Fritz Fertilizer Co.
We gas em, you grass em

fritz was a jew too how funny

>Sonderkommandos shooting prisoners
But the supposed "Sonderkommando" testimonies say they were the janitors not the executioners.
Could it be another case of the Holoconspiracy bullshit artists conflicted their own stories again?

If you're endorsing national SOCIALISM, you're still embracing a form of socialism. Hitler is a literary tragic Napoleonic figure. If he never entered Poland he'd be a national hero in Germany to this day and we could've found other ways to discuss and fix Jewish control in institutions of power. Make Europa Volkisch Again!

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>i-it's in the name guys that's mean it's the same thing!

This is why

The evidence of it never happening lies in the fact that there's zero evidence of it happening.

>Mao Zedong
>Prevent your farmers from harvesting crops
>starvation ensues

>Adolf Hitler
>Try to feed your prisoners
>Allies bomb the supply lines
>this is somehow your fault
Hey retard, Germany was falling apart at that time. Read the last paragraph of the pic. In Mao's china, everything was running as intended and people still starved. In fact, The Great Famine was actually a series of famines, each one caused by one of Mao's stupid ideas.
>t. actually did research on Mao's china

>what is the actual evidence of the holocaust never happening
>pic related

Hey /pol, how low do you think it will be until normies know the truth?

Totally irrelevant. I don't believe in the gassing or the six million, but the fact that the camps were even there on the losing side sealed the deal. Nobody cares about the USA on Japs because the winners write history, and the Japs were physical aggressors while the Jews were (and still are) economic aggressors

MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 1)
>"National Socialism is just (((socialism)))"

Marxist (Left) socialism and National (Right) Socialism are "antipodal zeitgeists engaged in dialectic". That's a fancy way to say they're opposite ideologies designed to clash, like Yin and Yang.

NatSoc was fundamentally an ideology built around race, while Marxist socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses, into a new German nation based on racial identity. Socialism, in contrast, was a class war between workers, bosses, and owners (Capitalists), aiming to build a workers state in which race and gender were insignificant. Socialists, especially Marxist socialists, were anti-religious atheists, whereas NatSoc went so far as to make Christianity the religion of the state.

The differences go on and on: Marxist socialism was internationalist, NatSoc was nationalist. Marxist socialism was egalitarian, whereas NatSoc believed that nature was unequal and required competition. Marxist socialism wanted to nationalize all private industry, while NatSoc privatized every major industry except the railroads (it considered these a military asset. In fact, Hitler once joked "they didn't need to nationalize property because they nationalized people". NatSoc drew on a range of pan-German theories, which wanted to blend Aryan workers and Aryan magnates into a super Aryan state, which would involve the eradication of class-focused socialism as a non-German ideology.

50-100 years

Ironically /r/holocaust is 100% against it and is probably the only place on reddit that is worth visiting.

MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 2)
>"National Socialism is just (((socialism)))"

Thus, "socialism" in National Socialism was an appropriated, bastardized term from the perspective of the Left. NatSoc redefined socialism as "Germanism/Volkism", which they saw as "producer-oriented capitalism", as opposed to "Jewish capitalism", aka, international finance, globalism, wall street, etc. In theory, NatSoc economics was a version of Keynesianism, tailored to the Völkisch nature of whichever people adopted it. Its not one dogmatic economic system,and Hitler often joked that the lack of a specific ideology was their strength. NatSoc could be more "free market" as Americans know it, or less. But NatSoc is always in favor of the Volk over economic identity, of "producer capitalism" over "finance capitalism".

Hitler tried to clarify the distinction in 1938:
>“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency.
>Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. ((((Marxism))) is anti-property; true socialism is not. ((((Marxism))) places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.”

I used to question the holocaust due to the numbers. Now I straight up deny it because it upsets people to an unreasonable degree. People just get so mad when you deny it despite not being jewish

Lord almighty, you natsocs are unbearable. The only successful practice of national socialism is (ironically) practiced by Israel today. I'm an advocate of fascism, but specifically not national socialism. But go ahead, accuse me of being a kike, because ad hominem somehow applies. Embrace minarchism, remove the Hebrew

Regardless of what you believe about the extermination camps, the work of the SS Einsatzgruppen is undeniable.

There are photos, documents and even videos. youtube.com/watch?v=6Sbs9CXueDk

The Nazi's clearly committed genocide. Dispute the numbers if you want.

the one from Atlas Shrugged.

I remember a kike from Israel posted here that all Israelis know that the Holocaust was exaggerated.

I'm not calling you a kike? I think we share different opinions.

MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 3)
>"National Socialism / Fascism was a failed system"

It's intellectually dishonest to label something that was forcibly crushed a "failed system", implying that a nation bombed into collapse during war is comparable to a system imploding politically during peace-time. The Soviet system failed, as did the Roman Empire, and every Chinese or Ottoman dynasty. Some of these examples of government lasted thousands of years, while some didn't last more than a generation. All forms of government inevitably fail. This has been true since ancient times. Polybius famously articulated this process of Anacyclosis: social organization paradigms rise, fail, and give way to further systems. This is the cycle of history.

Fascism is not a failed system, it was a defeated system: A.) it was not an economic system, but a social one; B.) the so-called "failed system" had a control group: the US. Germany, Italy, and the US were operating under Keynesean policies; only one of them won the war, and experienced a massive period of growth once their industrial rivals were destroyed. So no, it wasn't a failed system, because both sides were using it, including the side that won.

Touche, you win the argument. Why was the socialist label ever used?

Interesting, do you know who supplied this evidence?

Yeah they know what they're doing.

Having been on Sup Forums for so long it's fucking weird being on other websites. They delete posts so much, pretty much anything they find offensive or uncomfortable gets deleted. Makes me appreciate this website so much more

It's weird because if you look at the science or philosophy boards on reddit, they delete any posts having to do with racial differences. funny how a board that prides themselves on being "scientific" is uncomfortable with stuff like that

Because (((socialism))) was very popular and they wanted to steal the communists thunder. BTFOd the commies kekekek serious political trolling.

>There is more public hate for the Romans than the Nazis in most places I saw in Israel

How is anyone expected to trust jews when they hold personel grudges for over 2 Millenia. I think just about every country in the world has mark in their book

When the greentext is that snarky, what do you expect? In the grand scheme of things, we are indeed allies

>that pic
Lost.

They actually had a stock market even though they didn't practice usury.

Bantz m8 it's pol gotta ignore the stupid trolls sometimes.

1...2...3......4...5...6 million

checks out

The true red pill m8

Retarded Holocaust deniers made those edits. I've seen the bottom image in the archives, the top picture I've only seen on /pol, typically by retards like you who fell for it.

I don't see a problem with this.

But really the "einsatzgruppen" were used as hardcore enforcers behind the lines the sameway the NKVD were used.

Germany was making itself better and now it is ruined and Germany is dead.

If you were Jewish, wouldn't you do the same? They really fetishize anudda shoah. Two weeks in their country really showed me through experience that Jews care nothing for nobility or strength, only self preservation

"They nuked a fake town full of prisoners outside Auschwitz even though the guys who hadn't figured out nukes yet were in USA since the 30s, I saw it with my own eyes!!"

i don t believe the 6 GORILLION number . 2 bad you can t deny even the numbers . it s 6 gorillion goyim trust us .

is it true that in the torah it s says that 6 milion jews have to die so israel can be created again?

I still believe in the Holocaust but I agree, the laws against denying it make it look like they are trying to hide something

Up to 1.9 million are estimated to have been killed by SS einsatzgruppen death squads. The actual max estimate is 5.1 million Jews. You tards don't even know the official account.

>what is the actual evidence of the holocaust never happening?

none of the bodies filmed were gassed to death

The Holocaust is easily deniable because all of the accounts are fabricated nonsense dealing with numbers that make absolutely no sense in situations that make even less sense.

In 1945 the Germany Army on the Ostfront was in tatters without supplies, winter clothing, ammunition, and other necessities. Couple that with Allied air superiority and the fact the roadways and railways were not usable why would they have diverted horribly needed supplies (in the little quantities that remained) away from the front towards concentration camps.

You' don't find it suspect either that all the alleged death camps were found by the USSR and the death camp propaganda promoted openly by the NKVD.

How's this to get some synapses going?

>tfw every comment in a Shoah thread got Shoah'd.

Alright if that doesn't work what about this?

nobody is denying SS killed people, thats the point of being labeled a "Holocaust Denier." All of us are just disputing the 11 million people that were allegedly sent to concentration camps and gassed and burned.

No but the commandant signed a false confession after being tortured

Agreed. Such laws are a fucking joke. When Raul Hilberg wrote that Jewish Councils collaberrated with the Nazis other Jews got butthurt about the reveal of such information. There were many exaggerations and some lies told about the holocaust but it almost certainly happened.

It's funny that as the Holocaust has come into question openly I have seen a rise in this new method of the "Einsaztsgruppen".

It aired as a documentary on Netflix recently which came as a surprise to me but then I realized it was because less and less people in our generation were buying into the false narrative.

A little bait and switch.

Many of these pictures in the YT have no references and often just show bodies without any substance to them.

There's also Russian soldiers mixed into that throughout the video as well so the entire thing has to be called into question from the start.

Jews have no self-awareness. It's comical.

What will convince you it's an overexagertion?