How fucked are the Democrats?

How fucked are the Democrats?

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Very

How fucked are we?

Very. If it weren't such a Leninist party it could very easily redesign itself and come back very bigly.

The Democrats are fine. Conservatives are aging and white. Immigrant population is overwhelmingly liberal and growing rapidly. Women and young people are liberal. Migration continues toward urban areas that are liberals. Trump lost popular vote and many who voted for him were really voting against Clinton. Add that he is a pathological liar, a con man and clueless, and after 4 years it could be decades before another conservative gets elected.

Only if we exhibit the same insanity and hubris they do. Keep your heads, anons.

from 1 to 10 I would say a strong 9.5

Did you see when the next black woman head of the DNC was on Tucker Carlson?

Why would any sane black woman DNC head even go on Tucker Carlson? I think they're just setting themselves up to fail at this point.

Which is already starting to happen

Sounds like a cnn report. Keep shilling faggot.

To be fair, we have an extraordinarily long way to go to reach that level of retardation. It definitely needs to be addressed now though.

Add to this that with the ACA repeal there will be a lot of disenfranchised rust belt folks that can no longer afford health care, so they will be pissed, and if Trump makes any more strides to changing abortion laws then the black and hispanic demographic will population explode, creating a mass of democratic voters that will then move the the center of the country and turn the whole place blue.

Sounds like a great plan to get rust belt voters on your side :^)

But the ACA hasn't been repealed yet; only the IRS penalty mandate has been frozen.

Fully fucked. They hold almost no power in the United States at all at the moment lol.

Feels good man

AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA

What are you blind? Take a look around bro

fuck off leaf

Its a MASSIVE law passed by congress. You cant just snap your fingers like repealing one of Obama's 850 executive orders

Btw I didnt pay the fine a single year by increasing my withholdings and not receiving a refund. Never had $1400/mo insurance for a full year

According to the ACA itself you need effectively a supermajority of Congress to repeal it and it has to be done by February 2017. Yet the Supreme Court ruled that that's a bunch of bullshit a long time ago.

So you might as well just do it by executive order and avoid all the nonsense.

Extremely.
I get that memories are short,
but the amount of scandals coming from the democrats over the last 2 years has been astounding.
With the DNC scandals, wikileaks, mainstream media, etc. all taking hits, I don't see them coming back for atleast 4 years in any form.
We're almost guaranteed a super majority in 2 years.


>The best thing about all of this
Republicans are abusing the same laws the Democrats created legal precedent for.

Extremely Fucked.

They are going to kill their whole party.

I just claimed an exemption using the "could not find affordable insurance through employer" line.

So what can they really do now? Just watch Trump and the Republicans do whatever they want?

what scandels? like provideing healthcare to poor people? ending the iraq war? having the first black man as president or having the first WOMAN TO RUN? look in the mirror you flith sack of shit.. the left had a minor set back due to the large amount of propaganda agaisnt Hillery. after 4 years of trump destroying america.. you all be beggin for a democrat.. Withdrawing from the TPP was a HUGE mistake and everyone in the world is laughing at america

Here we go. Point by Point.

>Providing* healthcare to poor people?
By raising the cost of deductible so high that rest of America can't go to the doctor unless it's an emergency? By helping Insurance Companies become even more wealthy by exploiting the American people? By encouraging illegal immigration to create even harder strain on our Healthcare system? You guys sure won that fight...

>ending the Iraq war?
So are you going to take credit for ISIS and expansion of war efforts to include Africa too or? By losing more than twice the American lives in Afghanistan than Bush? Obama was a horrible Commander-in-Chief and this is not anywhere near a winning point for Democrats.

>having the first black man as president or having the first WOMAN TO RUN?
So you're racist and sexist. It is, by definition, racist and sexist to treat someone differently based on race and sex. Why are you so focused on giving people special privilege?

>Withdrawing from the TPP was a HUGE mistake and everyone in the world is laughing at america
Creating the TPP was a huge mistake. China is a real authoritarian state and is trying to massively expand militarily towards the west. Even Bernie Sanders applauded dumping the TPP. Or do you not realize that most of our trade is with Canada and Mexico?

Yeah, every time I go to the store there's always that damn sticker with the fucking leaf on it that says "made in canada"

This is how you spot a redditor

>democrat gets btfo
>HURR HE'S FROM REDDIT GUYS
You caught me. Take me to Sup Forums jail.
Faggot.

It's the way in which you did it that's cringey and reddity and you have no self awareness.

>Conservatives are aging and white.

Have you seen some of the mothballs leading the democrats?

>dems fine
>leaf

>no scandals left on Trump for 2020, and the argument of lmao no political experience does not apply
>dems don't have anyone to run anyway
>immigration is being brought to a grinding halt
>Trump had one of the more diverse electorates, potential to claim white unions and secure rust belt for good for the gop
>gen z most conservative to date
>even if dem population goes up, they all pile in cities, and the house is a land game
>class 1 up for election in 2018 - gop can only lose 1 seat while dems can lose 10.
>regardless of all of this SCOTUS is going to be red for at least 40 years.
>one state government away from amendments meaning end of birther citizenship and excluding voter id from poll tax

If Trump even does a half way decent job, then it's game over.

It won't be. Hubris will set in, the left will get stronger and overtake, then the same thing will happen to them. It's cyclical

It will, because it has before. History repeat.

>sweet summer child user thinks he sets the Sup Forums standards
The irony of your post is hilarious.
Pic related. It's you.

>But the ACA hasn't been repealed yet
>been repealed yet
>yet

It will, and people will freak.

Wrong

>You cant just snap your fingers

Pretty much what Trump said he can and will do

> Obama's 850 executive orders

Got a source for that? Because he only did 277

Because the ACA was ever about making things affordable, and not about setting up a huge behemoth designed to fail spectacularly

>let's piss everybody off and make life hell
>that way they'll vote for us
What's the difference between socialism and communism again?
youtube.com/watch?v=8VvNoAdtFdk

Not as much as they seem if they can play their cards right and get tons of governorships in 2018.

But it'll take a real windfall along with effective organizing (lol) to regain the house and senate.

Think how invincible democrats seemed in 1976 with Jimmy Carter only for the age of conservative dominance to be ushered in by the 80's.

You're confused about us rust belt voters. Trump's repealing the ACA and replacing it with insurance provided by jobs. That's EXACTLY how he will keep the rust belt red. The job growth is already happening here. Right after the election, I started seeing "now hiring" signs popping up at previously nearly defunct factories. They might not pay the greatest, but these jobs will provide a decent blue-collar income to millions of rust belt voters once the changes to NAFTA and the withdrawal from TPP come to fruition.

Short of doing something incredibly stupid, you can expect Trump to be dominant in the midwest come the next election.

Not very. They have time on their hands and even if immigration completely stopped, the brown socialist hoards would still outbreed us eventually

Not as much as they seem if they can play their cards right and get tons of governorships in 2018.

But it'll take a real windfall along with effective organizing (lol) to regain the house and senate.

Think how invincible democrats seemed in 1976 with Jimmy Carter only for the age of conservative dominance to be ushered in by the 80's that only with Bush showed any real sign of Eroding- Like even if Gore won in 2000 I have zero doubts you'd have no conservative president by 2004.

They also are aided by the centrists and the lengths conservatives go to defend the revolution of course.

>gen z most conservative to date

The oldest Gen Z people will be 15 by the next election since Gen Z covers people who are born during the years 2005-2024. Millennials are those born from 1985-2004

>no scandals left on Trump for 2020, and the argument of lmao no political experience does not apply

Scandals will come up and his inexperience will show in the job he does.

>dems don't have anyone to run anyway

Plenty of people coming up through the ranks.

>gen z most conservative to date

For the moment, until they see how their future is going to be fucked.

>even if dem population goes up, they all pile in cities, and the house is a land game

Not for long, they'll be moving into the center of the country soon.

>regardless of all of this SCOTUS is going to be red for at least 40 years.

Then they'll be Scalia'd

> >one state government away from amendments meaning end of birther citizenship and excluding voter id from poll tax

Watch as those state governments turn blue in the next elections

> If Trump even does a half way decent job, then it's game over.

He's going to get shit on every day by the media and the populace will be turned against him.

Their sham of a political movement rotted and collapsed from the inside out. Democrats are no longer relevant. The party ought to be disbanded. Stop talking about them.

Not as much as they seem if they can play their cards right and get tons of governorships in 2018.

But it'll take a real windfall along with effective organizing (lol) to regain the house and senate.

Think how invincible democrats seemed in 1976 with Jimmy Carter only for the age of conservative dominance to be ushered in by the 80's that only with Bush showed any real sign of Eroding- Like even if Gore won in 2000 I have zero doubts you'd have no conservative president by 2004.

They also are aided by the centrists and the lengths conservatives go to defend the revolution of course. Even if dems take the presidency for 12 years they'll be hampered by a senate that will resist their undermining of the free market the whole time. They may drop the fundies (it's the Christfags that I dislike with conservatives most) but the spirit of libertarianism remains.

literally all it takes is abolition of welfare and non-whites won't have a leg to stand on. White birth rate will flourish and the commie kike dream will die

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Funny, I see this same picture all the time, however it made my health care much more affordable, and both my wife and I make six figures and we have two kids. Prices dropped dramatically for us and we have a decent deductable and coverage is the same that we had prior to the ACA. So anecdotes all around!

This fucked

Doing just fine user
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It feels like its splintering, I feel like the Libertarians are about to get new members. Can you imagine? Just Americans arguing over different shades of right wing?

>They might not pay the greatest.

Right, so when they health care companies jack up their rates even more and you still can't afford health care and then there are no subsidies and you and your children are dying in the streets, be sure to remind me how great his new deal is.

> Short of doing something incredibly stupid, you can expect Trump to be dominant in the midwest come the next election.

So just being who he is? Got it.

Completely. They've built a behemoth of nigh-dictatorial power for Trump to exploit and he's exactly unscrupulous enough to do it. With a SCOTUS completely stacked for the Republicans by 2020 (God help them if he makes it a second term) and the Democrats likely to LOSE seats in 2018, there's pretty much no version of events in which the entirety of the Progressive legislative machine isn't rolled back into a singularity by the time Trump leaves the White House.

And that's a problem because it's easy to roll back laws with or without the SCOTUS, but it is VERY hard to advance your cause when the Supreme Court is against you. Democrats will be stuck in Legislative Branch Limbo for 50 years after this.

If the Republicans actually take immigration reform seriously, that's it. It's just over. The DNC will cease to exist by the end of the decade. If they don't, they still have a commanding lead that they can exploit for years. The RNC's shift towards Populist Nationalism is a cataclysmic, extinction level event for liberalism. The Left did not understand just how badly they needed to win this election. They hedged all of their bets on it and the wheel came up 00.

One side and up the other.

>Immigrant population is overwhelmingly liberal and growing rapidly

Their time is already over!

You are a lying sack of shit. NOBODY who makes six figures had their premiums go down. NOT ONE FUCKING PERSON. You are a fucking cuck LIAR and clearly a paid shill. I had hoped that after the election you paid shills would fucking disappear, but I see you sacks of donkey shit are still posting here.

Insurance prices rose BECAUSE of the ACA you fucking retard. You don't understand how the industry works at all. Forcing companies to insure people with preexisting conditions required them to jack rates up by 400% to cover their losses. Insurance Companies already technically run at a loss, they have to invest their entire gross just to eake out a profit over the course of the year.

The only possible outcome of the abolition of the ACA is the lowering of premiums, unless you saw industry-wide collusion. The ACA was a dumpster fire and everyone knows it. It was shitty legislation designed to make everyone in the country who works for a living pay for the healthcare of niggers and spics so that they'd vote for Obongo.

Correcting people's spelling isn't an argument, plebbitor.

This amount of denial is going to cost the Dems hard in 2018.

>Scandals will come up and his inexperience will show in the job he does.
Coming from who? CNN? The DNC? Who left has any credibility to report on them if he does? The Democrats used an astronomical amount of political capital just to run Hillary, and lost heaps of credibility along the way. So much so, that the DNC is ultimately fractured right now.

>Plenty of people coming up through the ranks.
They'd have to damn near be a model centrist to beat an incumbent, and in the next election, way more democrats are in jeopardy than republicans.

>For the moment, until they see how their future is going to be fucked.
Lets see how it plays out. If the DNC keeps bombing like they did over the last 8 years, the RNC is golden.

>Not for long, they'll be moving into the center of the country soon.
No they won't. They'll continue to move into the suburbs and turn more right wing like history has constantly shown.

>Then they'll be Scalia'd
>Threatening the Supreme Court in a time where you're support is dropping left and right

>Watch as those state governments turn blue in the next elections
Republicans will have a true supermajority in 2018. All they have to do is not fuck up and bring up all the pitfalls of the last 8 years and they'll take 2020.

>He's going to get shit on every day by the media and the populace will be turned against him.
>Doesn't understand the viewership and approval ratings.
wew

You're fucked. Get over it.

If the IRS penalty for not having insurance has been frozen then Trump already has done more for me than Obongo ever did in the last 8.

Heil Trump

Wow, I didn't realize you were the Sup Forumsice. How about you fucking kill yourself you worthless nigger

>Ignores list of arguments because I corrected his spelling
>Thinks this somehow wins him internet points.
The irony of saying I have a reddit mentality is hilarious.

>If the IRS penalty for not having insurance has been frozen then Trump already has done more for me than Obongo ever did in the last 8.

tfw the chief justice of the supreme court died in a weird cult hotel for nothing

>True supermajority
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Your narrative only works if the actions of the GOP match the rhetoric of Trump. If real change does not happen to benefit the common man then Trump and the GOP will be eating alive by the voters that cheered them on.

That will give the Dems the change to rise to power

You are a race traitor piece of shit.

>Obama was a horrible Commander-in-Chief and this is not anywhere near a winning point for Democrats.
I'd venture to say that he was the real reason the Dems lost. Romney would have won if he were a bit more relatable and wasn't a Mormon. Most Christians who aren't Mormon think they're fucking weird....which they are.

No chance of recovery until after Trump's reelection. If they do recover, it involves a complete power upheaval and making the Democratic Party into Trump clones who care about the working class. I think it's more likely that the Democratic Party will become more and more of a fringe/regional party for the next few decades, meanwhile the Republican Party goes back to shit after Trump and ruins the country, and a centrist Trump-ish party ends up having one-party rule until the 2050s.

They are in the middle of a schism right now

It will get divided into three parties:

The one for identity politics, the workers party and the boomer friendly corrupt social-democratic party

hopefully very. they're basically terrorists at this point. they hate white people, they hate america, they hate christianity and western values. eat a dick filthy dems. i used to be one and they repulse me now.

Also no bench for any future leadership whatsoever. Their top presidential contenders for 2020 are Biden, Warren and Sanders.

Fun fact. Romney would have won in as big of a landslide as Reagan beat Carter if the demographics of the country were the same as in 1980.

Democrat here

Are we fucked? We-we're gonna get the White House back in 2020...ri-right guys?

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There ya go, kiddo. Take a peek and see one of the big reasons Trump won.

the dens can still come back, though it's highly unlikely. if they bungle the mid term elections and double down on the identity politics for 2020 they're fucked. If anything, we're more likely to see populist nationalist candidates pop up for the house or the senate in both state and federal governments.

>How fucked are the Democrats?

They have nigger dicks pounding their assholes so hard that they will no longer require a speculum for rectal exams.

see
There are so many scandals in the last 2 years alone, I couldn't begin to pick which one.
They're fucked and it's glorious.

The DNC needs to focus on congress and state houses not the President. If Pete Buttigieg is elected to DNC chair they have a real chance. Mayor of a small down in indiana, US Navy reserve, he talks about downplaying the SJW bullshit and as he called it salad bar politics.

He wants to focus on down ticket things and instead of selling to little groups, black or women or whatever he wants to appeal to all the things that people have in common

Knowing the dems, they won't be smart enough to elect him

Trump would have to fuck up royally for them to have any chance in 2018, and by 2020 even if they do get a Dem in office they'll be hamstrung by Congress.

>tfw you know a proctologist
Why the fuck did you want to make a living looking up peoples' asses?
>well not many people want to so it's good money

The love of money truly is the root of all evil.

I agree, they definitely need to focus on local politics if they want to win long-term, but I don't think they can turn it around fast enough to make a difference by '18 or '20. It could happen, but they are very much in the hole as it currently stands.

Yeah Obama helped to set the style for the Democrats that they all started to live by. They started thinking you could just act like a pompous asshole, have the media back you up, and that you'd be super popular with the people.

It worked pretty poorly for Obama over his second term as evidenced by the gains the Republicans made in congress, yet none of the Dems thought this was a sign that their party had a problem. It didn't help them that they took the various polls that came out about Obama's popularity as fact. Many of them likely still believe that the polls are going to be accurate and that the media is representative of the public, so that if they're popular on some late night shows that it means they're popular with "the people".

it's not so much the love of money as much as if i don't get it i'll die.

The democrats are establishment morons, who think they can deceive millions of people into socialism, or worse, libertarian socialism. Their followers are blind starbucks coffee sipping Facebook loving idiots or just smart people, but thats pretty rare. Never will America, my country, the greatest country in the world, submit to their sugarcoated "love" or "tolerance"

So far he's doing pretty good. All he would need to do to get millennials on his side is do something about student debt.

>Right, so when they health care companies jack up their rates even more and you still can't afford health care and then there are no subsidies and you and your children are dying in the streets, be sure to remind me how great his new deal is.
The world must be very shiny and confusing for you.

Yeah I know. So how tf did Hillary lose to Drumpf?

Agreed and the party loyal are wanting to double down on SJW shit. The debate they had for the chair position was awful. You had two men, maybe three, talking about how to address the issue. Then you had a bunch of women wanting to double down of intersectional feminist bullshit. Apparently the women thought they didn't get enough of the women vote and that is the problem

It was insanity, their heads were do far up their ass. As a long time "blue collar" democrat it was depressing

this. but the country swings red for 8 years and then it swings blue for 8 years. it's been doing this for centuries. the dems will recover unfortunately, or it would at least be foolish to assume they won't, as much as we despise them. they are so up their own ass though i'm hoping they go away and never return.

>Their time is already over!

Oh no it's not. We must deport them. Do not get complacent as we have a hill to climb ahead of us. We need to close the border, enact tough voter ID laws, deport en mass, and dissolve anchor baby legislation.

Straight, the conference to determine the next DNC chair was just a competition to see who could shit on white people the most. They've gone past the event horizon.

Very, until they realize that the people who brought them to where they are, historically, are not orange-haired trannies and BLM screechers, but centrists in favor of fairness like Truman and, to an extent, W. Clinton.

They have gone off the rails.

We're still giddy over Trump's victory, I'm sure everyone will calm down by the end of the year.

I keep wanting there to be a reasonable democrat to vote for since I don't really give a shit about parties, but the longer I wait for one the more completely insane they get.

Really needs to be a party split if the party is to recover.

here's the problem with democrats, they'll give you healthcare but they want your guns and your free speech and they want to transgenerize your kid and scramble babies. the party is a mess and no sane white person goes in for it.

We Democrats are going to be fine and Thank God we have (((Chuck Schumer))) to keep Trump in check.

theblaze.com/news/2016/11/17/trump-has-donated-more-to-chuck-schumer-than-to-any-other-senator/

businessinsider.com/donald-trump-chuck-schumer-donations-2016-11

freebeacon.com/politics/chuck-schumer-more-money-trump/

blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/11/10/topping-list-of-senators-to-whom-trump-has-donated-chuck-schumer/

nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/Trumps-Past-Donations-to-Schumer-Could-Complicate-Future-Relationship-401913496.html

observer.com/2015/12/charles-schumer-wont-return-donations-from-donald-trump/

Did you actually watch the whole thing? Pete was great and they had one other man who was ok. Both talked about the issue like adults and wanted to move the party in a different direction.

It was all the women that focuses on the SJW bullshit and talked about dividing the party more, it was insanity to watch. I finally understand the back to the kitchen mentality